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andruboz
03-14-2003, 10:53 PM
he was in fresh water at the store, but the only info i could find on him, was a message board post about them being in the same tank as knight gobys. so i figured it was brackish. so in he went. his color got darker fast. may have shocked him. he was probaly going to be lunch for the bumble bee cats in the bigger tank anyway.
so it was marked a purple spot goby. does anybody know what it really is?

sorry.
crud. wont let me post the pic twice. i already put it up in general fresh discussion under "whats another name for?"

joe schmoe
03-14-2003, 11:38 PM
That's a really bad pic, but it looks like some sort of sculpin to me...not a goby. That is unless it is mostly a SW fish in which case I would have NO idea what it is.

andruboz
03-14-2003, 11:50 PM
yes, the pic doesnt show it, but its head is kinda thin. not very goby like. i have taken 20 pics so far and the sad thing is. thats the best one. probably not the cameras fault. its an olympus d-460 zoom.

joe schmoe
03-14-2003, 11:52 PM
AFAIK, sculpins usually have disproportionately (sp?) large heads, so sculpin is out.

andruboz
03-15-2003, 12:00 AM
when you see him from the front, he's got a tan/white stripe up the middle of his head. he looks enuff like a goby to my bumblebee goby, that they will chase each other around. [the bumblebee wont chase mollies his same size, so they are making some kind of connection.] and it looks like he's foraging/ looking for chow. i'll consider it a good sign.

one more try. with the camera

rjl420
03-15-2003, 1:04 AM
I think it may be either a freshwater stone fish or a leaf fish. is the fish somewhat wide bodied? or is more leaf like? if it's wide bodied it's a stone fish. I think both are actually somewhat brackish though.

joe schmoe
03-15-2003, 1:35 AM
Send the full-sized pic to me and I'll host it for a couple days. That way we can get a good look at it.

olaf
03-15-2003, 2:12 AM
It belongs to the Wasp Fish family.
Vespicula depressifons

andruboz
03-15-2003, 9:44 AM
hey! it does look very wasp fish. especially the the little spike on the front edge of the topfin. and the clear tail. you can almost see the white stripe up the head in olaf's pic.
thanks olaf.

i'll keep trying to get a good pic joe, but it might take awhile.

kablam
03-15-2003, 12:22 PM
You can pretty much keep them with any brackish water fish not big enough to eat him. I made the mistake of having on in a tank with moray. They are pretty neat fish.

cdawson
03-16-2003, 2:37 AM
It's a stonefish, my lfs sells them and i just bought one off them. They're brackish water. but the guy at the LFS said they are usually treated like a mono or scat and acclimated to SW.

andruboz
03-16-2003, 9:57 AM
is it ok to hijak my own post?

i am starting to think he wasnt foraging, just darting around a bit.
another board i asked about this said: this fish sometimes only eats live things. i was going to get a can/tube of brine shrimp eggs. the lady at the lfs said something about a 2 litre bottle, some warm water, and some yeast.
is that all there is to it? what are the tricks for good results?

MonoSebaelover
03-16-2003, 2:00 PM
Indian gobies are most commonly the Nandus Nandus. They grow to 6 inches and only eat live foods. I have never had good luck with them in brackish so don't know what biotype they are actually from. They could be brackish but they could also be fw or sw. The longest I have kept one is 2 months.

andruboz
03-16-2003, 5:32 PM
heck if he's a nandus nandus, then according to one website, i dont need the brine shrimp because the tank already has guppy fry that he should be able to fit in his mouth.

joe schmoe
03-18-2003, 9:00 PM
Here's some info for you. Don't know how reliable it is.

http://www.aquariumstuffers.com/products/list.cfm?CategoryID=40

Click on "Butterfly Goby"

Nippy
03-21-2003, 2:56 AM
I have tried 3 times to keep this fish and failed on each account. I wish you good luck. You might try feeding it live blood worms.

andruboz
03-21-2003, 5:02 PM
i'm working on hatching brine shrimp right now, and i see him set up in a territory and defend it against guppy fry. perhaps he'll eat one.

on a sadder note. i lost my violet goby. he bloated, recovered a bit and finally lost the will to continue. don't know if it was from a bacterial blast from changing water with mismatched temp/salinity, or a bug the wasp fish was carrying, and i didnt quarrantine it long enuff. or maybe the wasp fish stung him?
i dont know. the mollies and the wasp and the bumblebee goby look just fine.

will have to do some water testing.

Nippy
03-22-2003, 3:25 AM
In one of the instances that I tried to keep this fish I had 2 mysterious deaths right after introducing him. I wondered if the vespicula had stung them, too.