I purchased a 150 g oceanic today. I have two Festae males (1")to put in it, once its cycles. Many questions: what filtration does everyone think? What substrate? Do I need dither fish? Should I get a female for breeding? Is this tank to small for two males? Bottom feeders/algae eaters? As you can see I have alot of questions.... thanks for you response. More questions on fishless cycling to follow.
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filtration eheim pro 2 for your tank size.
sand to small gravel natural substrate.
if you get a female and you do get a pair the other male may get killed, the female mey get killed too during breeding.
dithers would have t0o be just play by ear unless you want dithers.
sand to small gravel natural substrate.
if you get a female and you do get a pair the other male may get killed, the female mey get killed too during breeding.
dithers would have t0o be just play by ear unless you want dithers.
Do Festaes really need dithers? I thought that they had that killer instinct going for them and would come out to see the world on their own.
Target fish, however, during breeding time would not be a bad idea. (If, of course, they were improperly sexed at such a small size. I wouldn't count that out as I didn't think dimorphism reared its beautiful head at such a small cichlid size, with obvious exceptions being the dimorphic dwarves.)
Target fish, however, during breeding time would not be a bad idea. (If, of course, they were improperly sexed at such a small size. I wouldn't count that out as I didn't think dimorphism reared its beautiful head at such a small cichlid size, with obvious exceptions being the dimorphic dwarves.)
I would think about a big-ol' common plec for the bottom as they can easily hold their own (against most things, anyway) and have some serious armor. Plus they will take care of any algae which you may have.
Otherwise, if you want a non-algae-eating bottom dweller, Bagrids are great catfish in that they are well-armored as well as beautiful.
Best of luck,
Matthew
Otherwise, if you want a non-algae-eating bottom dweller, Bagrids are great catfish in that they are well-armored as well as beautiful.
Best of luck,
Matthew
i dont know if they would need dithers but it normally jsut depends on the fish. you kinda have to play it by ear. if they hide all the time then dithers would be a good idea but if the run around everywhere then no dirthers.
but a common pleco would be the best idea for algae control cause they cheap and they love to eat that algae, except when the get really big!
but a common pleco would be the best idea for algae control cause they cheap and they love to eat that algae, except when the get really big!
Yeah, but at that point, you might be able to sell back a big "Common" and start over. The only question is if the Festaes would treat such a newcomer with the respect that any Loricariid deserves.
The problem is that I cannot think of anything smaller able to withstand Festae-beatings and clean algae at the same time.
The problem is that I cannot think of anything smaller able to withstand Festae-beatings and clean algae at the same time.
yea but most plecos are ignored by most cichlids because they only come out and move at night mostly.
Fair enough on that. I, personally, would have something at least as large as Festaes for safety's sake, but I definitely see that staying away from diurnal Loricariids is part of the key.
Thank you for all of the replies and the info. I gues I need to answer some questions, and ask some.
TTman I got them at my LFS, the manager there knows a breeder in Illinois, I think the Chicago area although I am not certain, and anyway they get in some real nice fish.
They were $12.95 ea so I picked the bigger one as the smaller one had some tattered fins and was well smaller. The guy at the store told me he would never sell the small one so gave me both for the price of one. I have them in a ten gallon right now and my 20 long finished cycling today. I will do one more check tommorrow and then put them in it until I get the big tank ready. Tightdog is one eheimpro2 enough or do I need two? How many gph are they? Do I need a HOB like a couple of emperor's or penguin's for bio filter? Childawg, I am not familiar with the Bagrid catfish but I love cats, is there a link where I could get some more info? Oh I think I sexed them correctly although they are small. They both have the blue sparkles in their tail and dorsal fin and there is no black in the front of the dorsal the sparkles go all the way up. From what I have gathered that is the easiest way to sex them although they are still really small. Thanks all
TTman I got them at my LFS, the manager there knows a breeder in Illinois, I think the Chicago area although I am not certain, and anyway they get in some real nice fish. They were $12.95 ea so I picked the bigger one as the smaller one had some tattered fins and was well smaller. The guy at the store told me he would never sell the small one so gave me both for the price of one. I have them in a ten gallon right now and my 20 long finished cycling today. I will do one more check tommorrow and then put them in it until I get the big tank ready. Tightdog is one eheimpro2 enough or do I need two? How many gph are they? Do I need a HOB like a couple of emperor's or penguin's for bio filter? Childawg, I am not familiar with the Bagrid catfish but I love cats, is there a link where I could get some more info? Oh I think I sexed them correctly although they are small. They both have the blue sparkles in their tail and dorsal fin and there is no black in the front of the dorsal the sparkles go all the way up. From what I have gathered that is the easiest way to sex them although they are still really small. Thanks all