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Hey earlier today my Jag was perfectly normal. Well I went in my room to see her now she's like very docile has her fins clamped and is staying pretty much to one side of the tank. It looks like she might be getting Ick again and I got meds for that but she didnt act like this last time she got it. I honestly dont know the ammonia levels or any of that shes been perfectly healthy since I got her till I moved her from the cramped 30gal to a 60. But I put meds she got better. Why would she change so dramtically. Never seen her act like this before. She also has on one of her fins the tip is white like its been dyed. Nothing has been differant except the intro of 2 plecs but she had been fine il now. Please help thanks. Oh and for the meds are plecs considered scaless when it comes to meds???
GEV83
04-04-2003, 12:09 PM
:mad: Thanks alot for the numurious replies that helped me out. :mad: Man dont you ever respond to people actually in need of help???:mad: My Jag went back to normal with out meds all white specs vanished. :mad: Yet again thanks for all the info.:mad:
VoodooChild
04-04-2003, 12:14 PM
I'll ignore your latter post. Usually white tipped fins mean bacterial infection, though it could be something else. How long as this 60 gallon been running? She could just be feeling the effects of a cycling tank.
ChilDawg
04-04-2003, 12:16 PM
I apologize...I wasn't on for any of the 19 hours between posts. Sometimes you have to take what you can get...
As for this question, it didn't seem like you had a question which needed an urgent reply as the Jag went almost back to normal. She was probably stressed...that tank is too small for her and the two plecs, and she may vacillate between fine and not fine until you upgrade them.
Plecs are considered scaleless for ich meds, so you are going to maybe want to give them a wholesale water change if you have not done so already.
GEV83
04-04-2003, 12:26 PM
No the ick went away noticed it today just the was 11 people who read but didnt respond. The tank has been running for about 4-5months now so I dont think its the cycleing. She still has the white tips on her pelvic fins. What could this be never had to deal with bacterial infections so Im in a new ball park if this is a sign of that like mentioned by VooDoo
ChilDawg
04-04-2003, 12:28 PM
GER, I just realised that I was on during those hours, so I feel even worse. Sometimes, when I only have a short time to spend online, though, as I have, I don't read posts to which I hadn't already responded. I apologize, hope that Voodoo's answer and mine were both helpful and I hope that we can work well together in the future. Apologies,
Matthew
GEV83
04-04-2003, 12:45 PM
See I new I was mad for a reason. LOL. Hey but whats with the white fin tips on my Jag???
GEV83
04-04-2003, 12:47 PM
Both my Jags and plecs have been together for a week now why would she bearly be getting stressed now???
ChilDawg
04-04-2003, 1:34 PM
Well, sometimes, it takes a little longer for fish stress to manifest itself...a week could just have been enough time for it to show up.
The only thing is Ive had her in way worse conditions and she never got like this. If you want me to list the worst condition let me know and ill give you a full discription.
why dont you do your fish a big favour and look after them a bit better, otherwise your jag might not recover next time.
hanif not to be mean or anything but shut the hey up. I look over my fish like a frecking hawk. That is my fish my first fish I really love. These sighns showed up all of a sudden I check my fish every day and night and afternoon. The only time the fish got ignored was when a family member died. Like I said earlier she was doing perfectly fine then went to being docile. If your just going to critsize me then dont write here please need to know whats up with her fins not advice from people who assume I dont pay wnough attention to my fish so back off.
Sorry Moderators just had to let it out.
VoodooChild
04-04-2003, 2:28 PM
Alright everyone just take a breather. No big deal. Usually white edges is just the beginning of fin rot. The introduction of two plecos may have spiked the ammonia a bit. I'd check that out. Fin rot can be nulled down by clean water and if she's as healthy as you claim she is, her immune system will put up a good fight. Sometimes really high pH can do this too, but it has to be really high. Just keep an eye on her and make sure the fins aren't getting frayed or are reducing in length.
Ok thanks voodoo. I will check the ammonia and all that as soon as I get a chance got to get to work. Lates
andruboz
04-04-2003, 6:58 PM
i read a couple dozen posts a day that i dont have the slightest clue as to what the solution to the problem is. if there was a way to lurk where i could read the post without being counted, maybe it would make the poster feel better. if the poster gets 10 different opinions on what to do and none of them are right, the fish wouldnt benefit.
i think the best thing to do when fishing for help is going slow, is to cast your bait in different ponds. [ dont get me wrong. i think a/c
is a very good pond] get three different message boards looking at your problem instead of one. sooner or later some good person will have the right answer.
True but Ive tried other forums like aquahobby I had a prob with a fish my moms fish and they never answered. I bumped it back up and nothing. Ive even ask a simple question about Ick and no responce. So I stick here dont know any other good forums.
GEV83
04-05-2003, 10:41 AM
My Jag is doing good yet again the white is still there but has not grown. The temp had dropped darn heater is screwed up the dile was moved. Im going to put another filter in from my other fish tank which im putting in my garage today. Im also going to do a water channge. What is the biggest water change do you think I could do and not dityrb anything to much Ive hear the max is 20% water change but ive heard people doing as much as a 50% water change. What do you think I should do???
VoodooChild
04-06-2003, 12:54 AM
Getting the temp stable is really important if your fish is infact trying to fight off something. She's probably devoting alot of energy to it (that is the big IF I'm correct). As far as water changes go, I use to do 50% once every two weeks and I never had any problems. Now I do about 15-20% a week. The more you do, the more it stresses the fish, with anything over 50% being pretty nerve-wracking to them. But you want to keep your water clean too, so just give and take. I'd do around a 1/3. Good luck.
ChilDawg
04-06-2003, 5:22 PM
By the by, don't worry about hanif. He is just a little hyper and likes to start confrontations. It is true that your fish was under some pretty extremely adverse conditions, but she seems to be better, and the fact that you are taking care of her and willing to ask about her on a public forum shows that you know what you are doing...or are willing to find out for her good.
I actually did find out what was wrong some one tampered with the heater and the temp had dropped pretty low. I have fixed it and check like 5 times a day now. I have also put another filter in to help the water condition and I put some meds to gt rid of some ick that reappeared. She is looking good though swimming like before and getting pist of as well. So she should be ok I am also in the process of looking for tanks for sale so I could put her in a bigger tank. So all is well oh and the white on the fins has started to go away slowly but surely. Thanks alot. Got to go check fish be back in a few.
High me again I just checked her out again and she flared her gills at me like she use to. She seems to still have the ick though the box for the ick says to reaply after a 25% water change if it still has it the only thing is I could do a full dose with the pleco in there so Im moving them out for the next 24hrs so I could do a full dose. Hopefully it will go away since I wont have enough after that.