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cdawson
04-09-2003, 1:30 AM
Somebody please tell me how I can do this! Plants AND coral!
http://www.aquahobby.net/tanks/tank0108a.html
That would be so cool.
OrionGirl
04-09-2003, 8:31 AM
I don't think it's brackish. I think it's full marine with mangrove style plants.
Pufferpunk
04-09-2003, 10:36 AM
I'm lucky enough to call the Shedd my town aquarium & get to visit it often. It does have some of the most incredible displays I've ever seen! I've tried to get on the volenteer list, but it's 1000's long! I've even offered to scuba dive into the tanks (whales, etc,) to clean them. Volunteers come from all over the world, just to do that.
cdawson
04-09-2003, 11:53 AM
Originally posted by Pufferpunk
I'm lucky enough to call the Shedd my town aquarium & get to visit it often. It does have some of the most incredible displays I've ever seen! I've tried to get on the volenteer list, but it's 1000's long! I've even offered to scuba dive into the tanks (whales, etc,) to clean them. Volunteers come from all over the world, just to do that.
If you visit there often do you think you could ask them what the Sg for that tank is? It says it's brackish but since there are adult mono argentus (what I have) I would say your right about it being full marine. However where would you get those plants from, I'd make a paludarium just to replicate a tank like that.
cdawson
04-09-2003, 11:58 AM
lol! I thought this was funny, how can an aquarium that is so highly regarded constantly refer to our underwater friends as "Fishes".
OrionGirl
04-09-2003, 12:11 PM
Why shouldn't they call them fishes? Fish refers to either a single specimen or multiple specimens of the same species, while fishes refers to any number of fish of multiple species.
Pufferpunk
04-09-2003, 10:26 PM
OG, Do you really toast your Grahm crackers?
cdawson
04-10-2003, 1:49 AM
Originally posted by OrionGirl
Why shouldn't they call them fishes? Fish refers to either a single specimen or multiple specimens of the same species, while fishes refers to any number of fish of multiple species.
fishes isn't even a real word. It's not a word at all period, fishes has no meaning in the english vocabulary. Fish means one fish or a thousand.
OrionGirl
04-10-2003, 8:47 AM
http://www.fishbase.org/Glossary/Glossary.cfm?TermEnglish=fish
Sorry, but this is my area of work. Fishes refers to multiple species.
Toasted graham crackers taste much better. ;)
bottle-blonde
04-10-2003, 11:23 AM
i know it sucks being wrong but they're right - fishes is a word. :p
cdawson
04-11-2003, 1:09 AM
not according to the real dictionary and thesaurus.
I have only one thing to say "one fish, two fish, three, fish, red fish, blue fish" Doctor Zeuss only used perfect grammar and spelling. Whoever wrote that site is wrong not I. Come on someone else here must have good grammar as well.
OrionGirl
04-11-2003, 9:42 AM
Fishes is listed as the plural of fish in my New College Edition of the American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, copyright 1978.
"Fish" is valid and current usage as both singular and plural; "fishes" is also valid curent usage for a collective plural, exactly as OG posted. "Fishies", however, is slang.
Now, would you care to define "the real dictionany"? The OED?
cdawson
04-11-2003, 11:16 AM
Originally posted by OrionGirl
Fishes is listed as the plural of fish in my New College Edition of the American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, copyright 1978.
okay I don't know what they teach you guys in school in AMERICA but up here where we use proper english we were taught there is only one word for fish (everyone I've asked has said fishes is not a word). We don't say , "come visit the wonderful variety of fishes at the vancouver aquarium". If you said fishes is a word to properly educated people they'd laugh at you. Fishes is what my 3 year old niece says.
ChilDawg
04-11-2003, 11:36 AM
In this article, which is published by the people who publish the OED, they make reference to the word fishes: http://www.oed.com/public/news/0010.pdf
I do not believe that they would allow an incorrect word into an official publication.
Bristlenose Chuck
04-16-2003, 7:41 PM
It is a valid word. How can you debate this when all the evidence is against you. Just because you were not educated in the correct word for a collection of different fish species, doesnt mean that you are right. Everyone is citing dictionaries and scientific publications and you are citing Dr. Seuss . Not Dr. Zeuss.
NOTE: There is a difference between fishies and fishes.
Point made,
Chuck
cdawson
04-16-2003, 10:12 PM
Originally posted by Bristlenose Chuck
It is a valid word. How can you debate this when all the evidence is against you. Just because you were not educated in the correct word for a collection of different fish species, doesnt mean that you are right. Everyone is citing dictionaries and scientific publications and you are citing Dr. Seuss . Not Dr. Zeuss.
NOTE: There is a difference between fishies and fishes.
Point made,
Chuck
it can be used in a sense such as "dave fishes for a living" not "I like to look at my fishes" like the website used the word.
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.
Leave him to heaven, or ignorance as the case may be.
he he,
this thread made me laugh and I'm sad, so...
From the Collins English Dictionary 2nd edition:
fish n., pl. fish or fishes. 1. a. any of a large group of cold blooded aquatic verterbrates having jaws, gills and usually fins and a skin covered in scales...
...and on it goes.
also...
Fishes n. the. the constellation Pisces, the twelfth sign of the zodiac.
haven't got the OED, but in England I believe we speak proper english :D
Shikkapow
04-17-2003, 7:44 AM
I had to laugh too ( and look to see if my first instinct was right)
Merriam-webster:
Main Entry: 1fish
Pronunciation: 'fish
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural fish or fishˇes
Usage: often attributive
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English fisc; akin to Old High German fisc fish, Latin piscis
Date: before 12th century
1 a : an aquatic animal -- usually used in combination <starfish> <cuttlefish> b : any of numerous cold-blooded strictly aquatic craniate vertebrates that include the bony fishes and usually the cartilaginous and jawless fishes and that have typically an elongated somewhat spindle-shaped body terminating in a broad caudal fin, limbs in the form of fins when present at all, and a 2-chambered heart by which blood is sent through thoracic gills to be oxygenated
2 : the flesh of fish used as food
ChilDawg
04-17-2003, 7:48 AM
I haven't got the OED either, but I would expect that some smart people revise articles before letting them appear before the general public.