ID picture please, German Blue Ram or Bolivian Ram?

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I have a question for you Ram keepers, the fish on the right side of this picture was sold to my girl-friend as a female German Blue Ram (Mikrogeophagus ramirezi ). I say it is a female Bolivian Ram (Mikrogeophagus altispinosus). Rams are hard to find locally so when my girl-friend was going to Va. Beach I asked her to stop by one of the larger fish stores to pick up a couple of German Blue females. Unfortunately I was working and could not make the trip but trusted them as I have had good luck with them in saltwater corals. The other fish they sold her is not pictured but looks almost identical to this one. I called them up and questioned the ID of the fish but they told me it IS Mikrogeophagus ramirezi.
I'm not sure I want them in the tank with my German Blues if they are what I think they are, I have on bonded pair and a single male.
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1 looks to be Blue ram(possibly female) the other maybe a Gold variant.. both are Ramirezi

BTW it's kind of difficult to sex Altispinosa until they are actually spawning or show the ovipositor
 
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2 Female German Blues.
 
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I agree, that is M. ramirezi.
 
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Star_Rider said:
1 looks to be Blue ram(possibly female) the other maybe a Gold variant.. both are Ramirezi

BTW it's kind of difficult to sex Altispinosa until they are actually spawning or show the ovipositor
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I agree. Its easier to tell the difference between the two color varieties when theyre in their breeding mode

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It's two female Mikrogeophagus ramirezi. The one on the left is a German Blue, the one on the right is a Gold Ram. Both are line bred strains of M. ramirezi. Wild types have more of a greenish body and are not as yellow.

Bolivian rams look quite different and have more of a tan colored background color.

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Thank-you all For your input!! I'm new with rams, I've been keeping fish for about 50 years but never tried Rams. What a great little fish!
Bob
 
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I know I am a little late to reply...for those who are also late to read:

It definitely is a mikrogeophagus ramirezi, their eyes are circled red while Bolivian rams have black circles around the eyes. I have them both in my tank.
Easy to sex Rams: the second or third ray in the dorsal fin is longer on males (among other indicators). Females have blue dots in their black patch on their side.
 
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