Bio-spira and ick medication

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ok I'm setting up a 37 gallon tank and I just noticed one of my mollies started developing ick, I'm never buying another fish from pet-co. The cycling process hasn't even started yet (ammonia, nitrites and nitrates=0) So I decided to use ick treatment called Ick Clear by Jungle fish clare. Is this going to affect the cycling process? I just bought bio-spira and I want to put it in but will the ick treatment kill all the bio-spira bacteria?
 
What is the temperature right now? Increase heat to 80 degrees Fahrenheit and add salt. What are the active ingredients of your med?
 
active ingredients of the med are victoria green and acriflavine. the temp is 80. I plan on putting a few african cichlids in tommorow, but I want to use bio-spira tonight. the PH is in the high 8s. will these active ingredients inhibit the bio-spira?

P.S. I know cichlids are aggressive put I plan on buying very small ones. as soon as they start harassing the mollies too much I will donate the mollies back to pet-co where there will probably suffer a worse fate.
 
Acriflavine will probably harm the beneficial bacteria. Why would you add the cichlids if your fish in there are already infested with ich? If this was a shipping order, then you have to get another tank to serve as quarantine for the cichlids and in the meantime, finish treating the mollies. Go with the salt which is safer for the mollies.
 
how long should I leave the medication in the tank for before filtering it out with activated carbon. I'm worried now because the tank hasn't cycled yet and I'm afraid the ammonia is just going to build up because of the lack of bacteria.
 
oh and how much salt should I add and how will I remove it one the treatment is done. I know salt is good for mollies but what about cichlids?
 
keiferd said:
how long should I leave the medication in the tank for before filtering it out with activated carbon. I'm worried now because the tank hasn't cycled yet and I'm afraid the ammonia is just going to build up because of the lack of bacteria.
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Keifer, to clarify things, keep that med aside and get another tank for those cichlids. You cannot put them in a tank with ich outbreak. If this was ship order and if you cannot get a tank as soon as possible, at least let someone you can rely on hold on to them until you finish your encounter with ich.

Just do water changes when you detect ammonia and nitrites are above 0.25. Always do this as soon as possible for the sake of the fish's health. Add 1tbsp per 5 gallons. Removing salt is done by series of water changes.
 
ok thank you for all your help. The cichlids aren't mail orders but I should've just started with them in the first place from this excelent LFS I recently found near me instead of buying sickly fish from pet-co. It make's me want to burn the building down for stalling my cycling process and making me spend more money than I should have :) Is regular table salt alright to use? because all the fish stores are closed right now and I want to remedy this outbreak as soon as possible. Also I heard from some people that salt in small ammounts is good for african cichlids anyway. Is this true?
 
Table salt is fine. I believe people are talking about mineral salts rather than the aquarium salt and marine salt. No need for that. You should be fine on your own accord without using salt. I will never suggest adding salt unless the tank happens to be a brackish or marine setup. Salt is a waste of time and money unless you are dealing with issues.
 
Add the biospira like the directions say. Wait 4 or so hours and then raise the salinity by 0.001 by adding 1 teaspoon of tablesalt per gallon. Wait 12 hours and do it again. Wait another 12 hours and do it again. This will give you the require 0.003 salt concentration needed to kill ich and should not stress the bio-spira out too much. Keep the fish in the salt bath for 10 days and remove the salt via 30% waterchanges daily for a week. After that return to your normal schedule.
 
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