Maybe he's a "runt". There may be a very slight chance that he could have internal parasites. You could try treating him w/Discomed.
A few questions
- Thread starter Shikkapow
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Usually eating a lot, but still being very skinny. I have been reading posts on other sites. I am wondering about the differences of some spotted puffer. See:
http://puffernet.tripod.com/confusion.html
Maybe mine are green puffers ( t. fluviatilis) http://puffernet.tripod.com/nigroviridis.html & yours are spotted puffers (t. nigroviridis) http://puffernet.tripod.com/fluviatilis.html, or maybe not..
I'm really confused, because I can't tell the difference. It says that they both grow to 6", but maybe one kind grows slower than the other.
It does mention that one is light BW & the other is heavy BW. I wish I could tell what I have a little better, because I've been keeping them on the heavy side.
http://puffernet.tripod.com/confusion.html
Maybe mine are green puffers ( t. fluviatilis) http://puffernet.tripod.com/nigroviridis.html & yours are spotted puffers (t. nigroviridis) http://puffernet.tripod.com/fluviatilis.html, or maybe not..
I'm really confused, because I can't tell the difference. It says that they both grow to 6", but maybe one kind grows slower than the other.
It does mention that one is light BW & the other is heavy BW. I wish I could tell what I have a little better, because I've been keeping them on the heavy side.Pufferpunk - Don't you have Ebert? the site you ref is incorrect. That is not news.
T. fluviatis is the Ceylon puffer. The name has been used in error by many authors for the GSP.
Edit: Occam's razor - the reason you cannot tell the difference is that there is no difference in the puffers pictured there, they are the same fish, all T. nigroviridis, all GSPs
Please don't help spread confused and erroneous information - you know how jumbled puffer ID is anyway.
T. fluviatis is the Ceylon puffer. The name has been used in error by many authors for the GSP.
Edit: Occam's razor - the reason you cannot tell the difference is that there is no difference in the puffers pictured there, they are the same fish, all T. nigroviridis, all GSPs
Please don't help spread confused and erroneous information - you know how jumbled puffer ID is anyway.
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I thought you might chime in on that. I got this info from Puffernet. I won't use that site for references anymore! I just deleted it from my Favorites. I had always thought the two puffers were the same, t. Nigroviridis.
That was the same site that i used to ID my puff...
I looked at other sites:
http://www.pufferfish.co.uk/aquaria/species/pufferfish/types/ceylon.htm
http://chunkypuff.net/projectpuffer/t_ceylon.htm
and from those pictures I have the Green Spotted puffer, not the Ceylon.. I found a bunch of sites where they talk about the ceylon being the japanese delicacy that can kill you if not prepares properly... they would have to eat about 3 dozen of mine to get a meal
OK well i guess he isnt malnoursihed and undersized....
thanks for tipping me off about puffernet.. deleted as well
I looked at other sites:
http://www.pufferfish.co.uk/aquaria/species/pufferfish/types/ceylon.htm
http://chunkypuff.net/projectpuffer/t_ceylon.htm
and from those pictures I have the Green Spotted puffer, not the Ceylon.. I found a bunch of sites where they talk about the ceylon being the japanese delicacy that can kill you if not prepares properly... they would have to eat about 3 dozen of mine to get a meal
OK well i guess he isnt malnoursihed and undersized....
thanks for tipping me off about puffernet.. deleted as well
I think it would be pretty hard to confuse the two; green spotted & ceylon. I just got a ceylon & it's in w/my GS. They don't look anything alike. Ceylons are more likely to be confused w/figure 8s. I'v found them mixed in together in a F8 tank for the same $ ($7). Most lfs don't know the difference. Too bad the one I bought the ceylon from did, it was $40! It was worth it for a larger one (3").
Robert, I will definately refer to Ebert 1st for now on. It seems that I'm forever apologizing for something... I guess I'll always be learning.
It was worth it for a larger one (3"). Robert, I will definately refer to Ebert 1st for now on. It seems that I'm forever apologizing for something... I guess I'll always be learning.
That site is not without good info - the person obviously cares a lot about about puffers, so it is not to be deleted for inability to trace puffer names - until Ebert came out and gave us a common ground for reference, I had given up on puffer nomenclature unless I was willing to go to original sources (as Shannon does regularly). That site was set well before Ebert came out and has not been brought in line with his monograph - which takes pains to specify that it is no guarantee on the taxonomy. The whole family is a disaster on names, and no other ref but Ebert give us at least most of the puffers with names we can use. But his common names are a disaster - "Green Puffer" for both GSP and Ceylon? Give me a break! Imagine what it would be if we all adopted that!
Ian chickens out on Ceylons, no species given. But with Ebert we can say the fish "best" labeled T. nigroviridis (Ian labels as T. nigrifilis), GSP. Or the fish best labeled T. fluviatilis, Ceylon puffer.
T. palembangensis has been applied to most of the common puffers in the trade by somebody, and is less common in the trade than even the Ceylon.
I do agree that the Ceylon is most likely confused with the Figure-8, but they really are not very alike. Getting Ceylon for Figure-8 prices would be a steal.
Ian chickens out on Ceylons, no species given. But with Ebert we can say the fish "best" labeled T. nigroviridis (Ian labels as T. nigrifilis), GSP. Or the fish best labeled T. fluviatilis, Ceylon puffer.
T. palembangensis has been applied to most of the common puffers in the trade by somebody, and is less common in the trade than even the Ceylon.
I do agree that the Ceylon is most likely confused with the Figure-8, but they really are not very alike. Getting Ceylon for Figure-8 prices would be a steal.
Why is it that Shikkapow's fish is growing so much slower than mine? Could it be a "runt"? She seems to be feeding it well.
Space, water quality, feeding, threats or lack thereof, and the thing I believe you mentioned and which terrifies us all - internal parasites. Gut parasites can be treated, true internals are untouchable. I have for years suspected their presence in fish which failed to thrive.
Other than some of the dwarfs, we are dealing with entirely wild-caught fish. There are significant risks of roundworms and similar always with these wildlings.
Other than some of the dwarfs, we are dealing with entirely wild-caught fish. There are significant risks of roundworms and similar always with these wildlings.
