Behemoth planted tank

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Hi Tom
One additional question. How did you automate the water change? I'm just interested in the draining. If you have an overflow or you have holes in the bottom of the tank (this is the 450 gallon Davis, CA tank). I am guessing that there is a solenoid somewhere.

Many thanks


Bob Kelly
In this tank, there is no solenoid, that's full automation(can even be done remotely via the cell phone). Instead, I prefer semi automation, it's what is on all the client's tank's I do now.

A large ball valve for refilling and and another for draining, this way I can drain 50-80% etc of the tank in a few minutes, then refill in about 45-60 minutes. I work on the tank while it drains and refills inside, then turn it back on.

So a typical service time frame is 2 hours or a little less per week.
For an overflow system(no other holes- this tank and the others I have all have holes elsewhere for fast draining), you may use the sump and a small solenoid, say 1/4" valve, this will drain only a small volume/gph rate.

As that rains, you have a flat switch refill the sump, there's some mixing between refill and old tank water as this slower process occurs, but you can make up for it by doing daily or several small water changes per day, or run it for a few hours during the week a couple of times.
That method waste more water, but can be used as irrigation water in Davis where it is very hot and dry most of the year, or ground recharge.

Since you only change say 50gal daily vs say 200gal for your 450 gal, you can irrigate pretty easy with lower flow rates. You may also do both methods, a fast semi automated and a slow fully automated.

The issue is when you do large fast water changes, if anything goes wrong, it goes really really wrong, same with fully automated.

So for safety reasons, the semi automated methods works best for me.

I'm in Davis BTW, are you a member of SAPS? The local plant group?
You may know Roxanne. Jim Kelly use to be at UCD as well, I'm out at the USDA's aquatic weed lab on Levy Rd.


Regards,
Tom Barr
 

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Subscribed!!!

I know this is kinda resurrecting an old thread, but I just read through the entire thing today, and that is a wonderful setup.

I am glad 'hell froze over' and you were able to start updating again. That full lush green background is wonderful.

I would have to disagree with the discus comments. I think they are a nice splash of contrasting color in that tank. It really makes the plants stand out. I suppose other fish in more natural colors could accomplish the same thing, but I still like the discus.

What ever happened to the 2 large aquariums for the zoo? I am curious how they turned out.

Thanks for keeping this updated over the years. I won't ever have anything this massive, but it sure provides nice inspiration.
 

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Hell frozen over.
Not the best pics, I was working and did not have time for a decent photo shoot.







Tank looks immensely better/improved, the owner' has taken more effort and thought into both keeping it up and the long term design.

You cannot see the roots from the aunbias well in these pics, but they are nice and dramatic. Same for the 450 Gal office tank.

The plants and tank was not doing as well, which is why I came down. CO2, what else is new. The CO2 probe had not been calibrated in some years so it was way over due. It was about 2x off, so a reading of 40ppm was really 20 ppm.

The other tank at the office?
Was doing well, and the CO2 was about 46-48ppm.

White sand foreground is good/looks better. The wild discus look much better, they will be the main theme(about 30 of the some of the largest & nicest I've seen, in quarantine). Hemiodus gracilis is a really nice fish for such a tank.

LED lighting was added and can give many different lighting set ups and effects on this tank, but these must be seen in person, no way to get a picture with such little lighting as is.
Sorry for the blurred pics, but something better than nothing.
 

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Nice update. The tank looks great!
 

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Extremely stunning! Impressive in every way possible. What species of plant is covering the back 'wall' ? It's great. I like the new colors of discus that are in there, They're looking more natural than those pink ones.

A tip for every aspiring aquascaper: Never have flat substrate!
 
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