I am not understanding LED lighting

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FishFanMan

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FYI, PAR is not evenly distributed so, placement of the high light plants in the tank might be something to think about. Or the option as previously mentioned is 2 light fixtures. Here's a good example of how PAR declines quickly as you move away from the light fixture.

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thanks freshy. The finnex ray 2 has a PAR output of 76 micro mol on the substrate at 12 inches away. This will make the plants grow faster, but you may need the addition of compressed CO2 to avoid algae blooms and plus you will need to prune and trim a lot more. IMO you should go low tech for three reasons. 1) high tech tanks change so quick you always have upkeep issues 2) the tank will be at your GF's house so it might not be the only thing that receives your attention when you are next to it 3) low tech look a lot better than you think. Check out jpappy's thread. His tanks are beautiful, low tech and he uses the sam CS+ fixture as i do (18w full spectrum + color effects, $84 on amazon) http://www.amazon.com/Current-USA-S...06&sr=8-1&keywords=current+satellite+plus+24"Sent from my VS920 4G using MonsterAquariaNetwork App

so this would be the one for me ?
http://www.amazon.com/Current-USA-S...06&sr=8-1&keywords=current+satellite+plus+24"Would you consider this to be med range lighting? By a guide I saw, a par output of 76 would put it in the medium lighting class.
 
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calivivarium1

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On my tank in my signature I am running dual 48" fixtures over the tank for roughly 40 PAR over the tank. I dose only the recommended amounts of Flourish Excel for carbon (soon I will switch to Metricide) and so far *crosses fingers* the tank is progressing wonderfully. How tall are 28gal bowfronts? 19"? If you plan on going high light I'd either get two Current Satellite + fixtures or go with another one (of course you could also wait till their new one comes out...) for more light. Personally, I prefer low tech because it is much less maintenance and you have a larger margin for error (in my opinion, anyway).
 

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I have set quite a few of my clients up with LEDs, and I can tell both from experience, but more so from a scientific stand point there is a wide varience in quality and output.

For one PAR does not necessarily equal output of useful light energy.
For example (an extreme example to make a point), the green spectrum is basically useless for plants, so you could have one LED that emits only green emitters with a PAR of say 150 µMol•m²•sec while another light has exacting spikes in the key PUR areas needed by plants and only has a PAR of75 µMol•m²•sec, the SECOND LED is actually the better light as the first has basically NO PUR!

As for Kelvin, 6500K is generally best (again how the light arrives at this varies greatly). For tanks much over 24” in depth, you might consider mixing in 10k to 14k light

The LED I strongly suggest with the best warranty and highest output in PUR is the TMC AquaRay GroBeam

Please reference these articles too:
For a comparison of Warranties (this is a simple read, that makes some excellent points without having to know much about LEDs):
http://aquariumopinions.com/2013/12/16/aquarium-led-warranties-reef-or-planted/

For an overview of Aquarium LED Lights
http://aquarium-digest.com/2010/04/11/led-aquarium-lights-lighting/

GroBeam Review (the review covers the tiles, but equally applies to the strips too from my experience):
http://aquarium-digest.com/2011/12/19/tmc-grobeam-1000-customer-review/

For just darn good lighting information:
http://www.americanaquariumproducts.com/Aquarium_Lighting.html

BTW, as per the WPG “rule” this is very outdated and cannot be used to compare “apples to oranges”. In other words, you cannot use WPG to compare a T5 with a T12, or even two different LED brands.
As an example, the GroBeam LED needs only about .6 watt per gallon (that is 6/10ths of a watt), while some others require as much as 2.5 watts for the same results due to much more waster energy and poor PUR output
 
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FreshyFresh

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What is PUR?
 

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PUR is “Photosynthetically Useful Radiation” also more simply known as useful light energy.
The last link in my previous post has a good section about PUR and is a good read.
Here is a direct link to that section:
http://www.americanaquariumproducts.com/Aquarium_Lighting.html#energy

I still recommend reading the article as a whole, but this section and the one preceding it are very helpful in understanding this very important aspect of lighting, in fact the most important
Simply stated; “PUR is that fraction of PAR that is absorbed by plant & zooxanthellae photopigments thereby stimulating photosynthesis.” In other words the spikes within PAR light energy that are actually used by photosynthetic life

This article specifically deals with PUR and PAR for aquarium lighting and is also worth a read:
http://www.aquarium-pond-answers.com/2012/03/pur-vs-par-in-aquarium-lighting.html
 

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I have a light that provides 28 par to my tank. If I get an identical light, will that increase my PAR to 56? is that how this works?
I believe that depends on the distance and angle the lights are positioned in relation to the plants.
 
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