Well, sadly things are happening in my life that I need to my breeding project off to the side, I actually have to take down all my tanks for a big move. I wanted to post here first because I know how much you all love these guys =) I have a breeding quad I guess you'd call it, I have a male from one breeder, 2 females from a 2nd breeder and a 3rd female from a 3rd breeder, I think these guys will make someone (sadly not me) a mighty fine breeding group. These guys are are full grown (or darn close to it) and should be breeding, the females have already been full with eggs but he wasn't ready, his whiskers are coming in quite nicely now so he's probably getting closer =) Anyway, I'm asking $200 for the whole group, which I feel is a pretty good deal considering a pair can go for $125 anyway, I'm gonna leave this in here for a day or 2 to see if any of my "pleco pals" would like first dibs on these guys, then I'll put up a for sale thread. I have had very good lucky shipping fish and feel confident about priority but would do express if you wanted to pay for it. Just pm me here, that'd be the best way to get ahold of me.