Mafia #6.....The Play

[johnlarson66]

Here is my list.

jpappy 789 (6) leaning innocent
Dangerdoll (4) always a suspect
IceH2O (4) dangerous - the Ogr vs Ice thing is a red flag
bkw1982 (3) never seen this quiet - not sure if has contributed
OgreMkV (4) dangerous - the Ogr vs Ice thing is a red flag
judgemax (10) dead - quit
MikenDanielle (10) dead - lynched going to quit
Dwarf Puffers (2) posted wanted to quit
sploke (6) leaning innocent
Hooked Newbie (10) dead - hit by mafia
johnlarson66 (5) myself
ZSandmann (5) mixed read at times I think is mafia then others not
plantling (6) on snitch list
KingOfTheDeep (6) on snitch list
joander123 (4) are they even playing? Red flag maybe scared from last game
Cory Lover (4) always a suspect
Swayde (7) leaning innocent - seems interested in the game and town
Coler (10) dead - hit by mafia
charlie_stubbs (5) mixed read - into the game - I think they are hooked
mee-mee (6) on snitch list
Jensons (5) dangerous -no real read - played mafia well in the past
nickmcmechan (3) was real quiet and then got active - wanted the town not to post as much
Madcrawdad (6) on snitch list
clown-lover (10) dead - quit


I am not real solid on any of it, but wanted to make one for my own benefit and thought I should share it.

The Ogre vs Ice thing has me wondering how it got started and I will spend more time on that later. I also think there is a ZS vs Mad thing going on. Both "things" are a red flag to me. Maybe all four are innocent, heck maybe all four are mafia. Something does not seem right. They do tend to make themselves into a group at times. Maybe they are just more vocal.

At this point, I think there are more important targets. I put all the people on the snitch list as a 6, just because they are on the list. There are different cases for each. I think the snitch wants the mafia to win, but I am not sure. I need to read that rule so more.

I vote to lynch Dwarf Puffer

I think they are trying to hide under the radar and when they were brought up acted like they were quitting.

 

[johnlarson66]

Okay, it looks like the snitch, while being one of the mafia is really for us.

So them having 7 is more like having only 6. We have an inside man (or woman).

So there list is to help the town.

I think this give us a better chance than I thought. I have been more hung up on the vigilante than the snitch so far.

 

[Sploke]

A few quick comments before bed:

And it isn't me either...so I guess we go with Plantling and King...I can honestly say, King could very well be the Don, he is playing like when he was Don in game 4...and Plantling, I will go back and read all of the threads she posted and see if I can see anything in them...

I have seen all of King's posts and they repeat the pattern in game 4...:lipssealedsmilie:

I would agree with this, except for what happened in game 5. KOTD was innocent, and we had him pegged as mafia because he was playing how he did in game 4, when he was the don. It made for a lot of confusion, and I'm seeing what he said then was just his style. Its still hard for me to get a read on him though so who knows.

How can 2 people know your innocent? The Det might but no one else has investigating powers. Why would the Dr know you're innocent?

Why don't we put it to the test and see if the Dr saves you from a lynching.

Wow...thats all.

I think it proves Mad is NOT Mafia!

Think of it this way. The Mafia don't know who the snitch is, but the snitch IS Mafia so they still want the Mafia to win. They name four players, one MUST be Mafia. Mad was the number two vote tonight, why would the snitch name someone we already suspect? I think we have a 1 in 3 choice on Mafia here, not one in 4. This almost clears Mad from my list in my mind. Thoughts?

The point of the snitch putting mad on the list, if he is mafia, would be this (in my mind anyway): mad was the second highest voted this time. If there was still a lot of suspicion about him, why not just throw him to the wolves anyway? If the snitch wants to win, they would have an interest in giving away as little as possible, and letting an already highly suspected player get lynched anyway would accomplish that. Now, I'm not supporting a decision either way right now, just putting out another point of view.

With that, I'm going to bed. We have a lot of circles to unwind in the morning, this was a tough night.

 

[johnlarson66]

I think the snitch is on our side. But, I am not 100% sure.

Does anyone else read it that way?

I think it makes a difference.

I would like to see the 4 people on the list post their thoughts if they think the snitch is for the town or against the town. I would like others to post if possible.

If the list is on the side of the town, well it looks bad for Madcrawdad. If the list is on the side of the mafia, well it looks like has confused us all - three quiet ones and one vocal one.

The whole snitch thing is new to all of us. Nice twist rbishop.

Part of me thinks rbishop wants the mafia to win or atleast have a chance.

I think we will lynch one tonight. The town seems to do good on day 3.

 

[jpappy789]

My order from the "snitch" list:

1.) Mee-mee- got very defensive when was on list
2.) Mad- he depends on if the snitch is for the mafia or town, I am on the bubble with his innocence. Because he was a suspect, the snitch (if mafia) would want to throw him under the bus. If the snitch is for the town, a very good mafia candidate...
2.) KOTD- tied with mad, really is a toss-up. Very quiet but is like that every game.
4.) Plantling- innocent. I see no way around that. Nothing suspicious in any posts, but still has a 1/4 chance of mafia like the others on this list...

 

[jpappy789]

That's just my two cents. Seems like bed time for me...gunna be gone most of tomorrow...very very interesting night...I am not liking the way this game is going...

 

[ZSandmann]

Going to bed.

I think the people who voted for Mike should be looked at as I think there will definetly be Mafia in that list.

I think DP should be lynched for saying they were going to quit.

I think we should not put too much weight on the Snitch list as it doesn't really help increase our odds of finding a Mafia. A random vote in fact is a much better pick than the list.

Just some thoughts. Good Night Townies.

 

[mee-mee]

You ask for it Charlie...

Here is every single post I did as of day 1...now everyone can read all the posts I did and decide for themselves..and everyone can see that in every single post I DID NOT scream Innocent...all I said was I was not Mafia....and not going overboard like I did in game 4...I am playing like all the other times I did when I was a Townie...just like now....

We just have to remember that this is exactly how the last game started.....one newbie member and the other who already played game 4 and 5, the newbies were really excited about playing the Mafia game and we all got on the bandwagon for quite some time, so we really need to be careful...I know I am not going to try and jump to conclusions this game as I did last game...

Just as it says..

And how do we know you aren't just saying that...


Way too eager,


Ditto...


That is how people start assuming you are on the bad side of the game...


I think it could be...


Not necessarily...



If ever in doubt on something, always ALWAYS pm the GM....never PM a Townie member....

click on arrow and see transcript..

Mee Mee opens up her Pastry shop for the day, and goes out back to make sure that shed she has behind the shop has a secure padlock on it, so Cousin Pete doesn't try to sneak in at night and sleep, but if he tries, her trusty watchdog, the chihuahua, will stop him dead in his tracks. And he will then think twice of sleeping in her shed. Since he did acquire money for working at the Coffee shop sometime back, and now he can pay for his own room and board at the local B and B...go stay in a clean bed cousin Pete...

roleplay, irrelevant

The only we cant see people is if they watch as guests...

responding to CL2

But I do see what you are saying, 14 members and only 11 people at the bottom of the page...

responding to CL2 again

Okay, I see...

responding to King about the Active Users, people viewing a thread and how many actually are..Invisible mode...

If you go back and compare Mike's posts to that of Joander's posts from game 5, it seems to be on the same lines as Jo was posting, other than the PMing goof up, can anyone give me and everyone else good reason to vote for MND that havent voted for him already...the only alarms I seem to be getting vibes off of him are the Newbie Alarms...we have to remember that all new joiners really don't understand the game lines....
1. you post right away you are an Innocent, everyone will think you are Mafia...
2. Defending you are Innocent will peg you as Mafia...

So if anyone can give me alot more evidence (even between the lines), I will gladly vote for him...but if he turns out to be one of us, then we REALLY need to be careful...this is exactly what the Mafia wants...us lynching each other so they dont have to waste votes on the nonkey players of the Townies...

Asking for more evidence on Mike...

RB, does first day end Monday night at what standard time....so everyone knows what times to put their votes in...since you are eastern time, then will it be 8 pm your time and then that would make it 7pm central standard time...

ASking RB a question...

Cousin Pete decides to stop by MeeMee's Pastry shop for some fresh bagels, since he has quit drinking he can come into her shop anytime..

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This is what part I don't care for...we won't even know who the Don is...

FOR THE FIRST 6 DAY/NIGHTS, THE DON WILL SHOW AS AN INNOCENT ON ANY INVESTIGATION OR UPON LYNCHING.

so does that mean that the Don will be the last Mafia member standing...

Exactly what it says, don't care that if the Don is lynched way b4 the game ends, we wouldn't know until the next night...

I believe it is 2 of the game days...cuz, in one of the other Mafia games a person didn't post for 2 game days and they were taken by a mysterious death...she could easily post something tomorrow...we hope...just to see how she posts...(like game 4 or game 5)

Responding to Ice about how long does a member have until they die of an untimely death...

Here first he votes for Ice


Then he changes to DP


and then JM,
a bit vote jumping I would say...can you explain this Mike...for your list was Ice, DP, and Swayde...why didn't you vote for Ice if he is your top Mafia pick..


And why JM...


she is at the bottom of your list...In your first list she was 5th, second list she was 3rd, fourth list she was last (6th), and 5th list she was last also...


Why follow everyone else, and go with the first one on your list..Ice...


You say she is the weakest but yet still keep your vote on her...



Or yet just vote for Mad, since JM is your weakest link so far..


Cousin Pete ya can come in the shop as long as ya keep the alkyhol outside, and not in my shed also..


There is no way to tell about the voting pattern, the only weird voting pattern I see is the ones you made..



And Mike isn't even on his list either...wow, what to do with the info...


So far the votes are..
HN VOTES FOR MAD 339
MIKE VOTES FOR JM 292
Z VOTES FOR JM 289
ICE VOTES FOR MIKE 68
COLER VOTES FOR JM 290
CL2 VOTES FOR MIKE 123
CS VOTES FOR MIKE 124
JL VOTES FOR SWAYDE 161
JP VOTES FOR DP 162
OGRE VOTES FOR DP 165
SWAYDE VOTES FOR JM 269
NICK VOTES FOR ICE 170
MAD VOTES FOR SWAYDE 174
JO VOTES FOR SWAYDE 190
DP VOTES FOR MIKE 272
SPLOKE VOTES FOR JM 306

17/24 VOTES AND THAT WILL INCLUDE MINE SOON...

Click on the arrow and read transcript, it says what it says...

Mee-Mee decides to stop by Swayde's house to make sure she is okay..

MM-"that is a beautiful goldfish pond ya got, swayde.
SW-" why, thank MM...It took me awhile I had a dream of it for my new house..."
MM-"Ya have a lovely house, this house use to belong to Jdub, after he moved out to the country side and the Mafia riddled his house with bullets, ya should go out and check it some time. Alot has happened in the 6 years since the Mafia has tried to take over our beloved ACville...but we keep fighting back...just be careful who ya talk to and as for Cousin Pete, well he is just a harmless little man...you may see him wondering the street sometimes at night, but no harm..."
SW-"thank you MM"
MM-'stop by the pastry shop anytime and I will give you free eclairs anytime..."
but make sure your windows and doors are locked..and keep that trusty high powered water pistol at your side at all times...and ya should be okay...and just keep being yourself...Ya are cool...

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Okay thanks for the clarification...



Love the part about the hooker in VC...ROFLMFAO....

Responding to Coler and CL2

With the inconsistant voting of Mike (that is the exact same way I voted in Game 4, when I was Mafia, got me figured out right away and lynched)

I vote for Mike....


and now I am off to bed...the only way for me to keep track of when the posts begin when I turn off the computer is to write the post number down and the page..hope that helps some peeps,,,

and don't forget about this rule...
The "Snitch". One of the Mafia is a Snitch. Since their cousin Vinny was ousted by the Mafia last year, they feel some revenge is needed. The Snitch does not reveal his identity to anybody, not even the Don, except by me upon their death. The Snitch will PM me a list of 4 names, their choosing, whenever I ask. At least one member of this list will be a Mafia member.These names will be worked into the night time story line. Innocents do not want to kill the snitch too early, and the Mafia want him gone quickly...maybe, depends on their plans...

We absolutely need to be careful because the snitch is on our side (us Townies)...but good job on the postings and the lists soo far...

My list is...
Mike
Mad
HN

The one and only reason I thought Mike was a Mafia...the inconsistant voting, just like I did in game 4...

I know ya meant god of the newbies...I didnt take ya seriously...

I really dont know what to think at this moment...is Coler trying to protect Mike or just throwing us a curve ball...darntarnation....


I retract my vote for Mike and vote for Mad...I am trusting you on this Coler...if you are wrong then you will have to eat my Winnie the Pooh stuffed animal...

Not sure anymore about Mike, and change to Mad, they were the second on my list...

Yes, that is in regards to you be innocent or mafia...if you are innocent I will eat my WtP stuffed animal...but I did change my vote for Mad...and if Coler was wrong then he has to eat my WtP stuffed animal...I will ship it to ya Coler...Mad was my second choice anywho...but I will try and give ya the benifit of the doubt and hold off one more day or two....and then we will see what transpires out of your posts...:lipssealedsmilie:

Giving Mike the benefit of the doubt...

Sorry HN, that was a typo...I was trying to edit it but everyone else popped up...my mind was thinking of someone who I could closely watch and I inadvertantly typed your name...I have no suspicions of you as far as I can tell...

Responding to CL2

MEE MEE GOES TO CHECK ONE LAST TIME ON SWAYDE AND MAKES SURE COUSIN PETE FOUND THE EXTRA SHAMPOO AND BODY SOAP THAT SHE HAD STASHED IN THE SHED FOR HIM TO USE...SINCE HE HAS GONE SOBER NOW, HE SHOULD AND COULD MAKE THE MOST OF IT NOW. SHE ALWAYS KNEW THERE WAS SOMETHING SPECIAL ABOUT THAT MAN...ALWAYS TALKING TO HIMSELF ABOUT INTELLIGENT THINGS (NO ONE EVER PAID ATTENTION TO HIS ONE SIDED CONVERSATIONS)...MEEMEE ALWAYS KNEW HE WAS SMART BUT REALLY NEVER GAVE HIM ENOUGH CREDIT WHERE CREDIT WAS DUE...COME BY THE SHOP TOMORROW COUSIN PETE AND I WILL FIX YOU A GOOD BREAKFAST...EGGS AND ALL...WHATEVER YA WANT AND HOPE YA CAN KEEP IT DOWN...THOSE DREADED DETOXS OF ALCOHOL...BUT MEEMEE KNOWS COUSING PETE WILL PULL THROUGH AS HE HAS DONE MANY TIMES IN THE PAST...AND HOPE THIS TIME IT WILL STICK WITH HIM...NO MORE ALCOHOL...

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then why does it say this...
These names will be worked into the night time story line. Innocents do not want to kill the snitch too early, and the Mafia want him gone quickly...maybe, depends on their plans

seems the snitch wants to help us out in someway...at least that is what I get from it...what does everyone else think of the snitch's role...


what what....

Responding to Ice and CL2

This is the exact role of the Snitch....
The "Snitch". One of the Mafia is a Snitch. Since their cousin Vinny was ousted by the Mafia last year, they feel some revenge is needed. The Snitch does not reveal his identity to anybody, not even the Don, except by me upon their death. The Snitch will PM me a list of 4 names, their choosing, whenever I ask. At least one member of this list will be a Mafia member.These names will be worked into the night time story line. Innocents do not want to kill the snitch too early, and the Mafia want him gone quickly...maybe, depends on their plans.

and the Don role, when the Don is lynched, we will not be told at all until the 6th day that that person was the Don,...the snitch can't investigate people, and they can't be told the Major Players roles...AT ALL...



Or am I wrong RB....

Talking about the Snitch role and then asking RB if I am wrong...

Thank you HN for clarifying that for me....

And if MIke is an Innocent we need to look at the list of the people that voted for him....IMHO...

just what it says...

Wow, alot of reading since last night...

The Doctor does not know who is Innocent and who is Mafia....

As for Coler, He was a Townie, if a Mafia were lynched, I highly doubt it would say that...go back to RB's post 479...and the Mafia wouldn't lynch their own Don....

As for Mike, maybe he is the Snitch, but we don't know that. And if he were only the Mafia know he is Mafia, but not the Snitch...and they would try and get rid of him real quick, maybe, depending on their plans (just like it states in the role rules)...

We don't even need to go on the bandwagon about JM, since she has other pressing engamements she needs to attend to...Hope all goes well for her...

And we seriously need to go back and reread all of the posts that seemed to be against Coler...

I, myself, will surely pay closer attention to the very last list he posted...
God be with you Coler, we will avenge your meaningless death, and get those Mafia, before they can get our town a 3rd time...

And since I have tomorrow night off, even though it will be night 3, I am going to go over every post as thoroughly as I possibly can...

Just as it says also...

My vote is still for Mad

because I still get weird vibes from them...

And it isn't me either...so I guess we go with Plantling and King...I can honestly say, King could very well be the Don, he is playing like when he was Don in game 4...and Plantling, I will go back and read all of the threads she posted and see if I can see anything in them...

I have seen all of King's posts and they repeat the pattern in game 4...:lipssealedsmilie:

First time, I only say it isn't me for being Mafia...

I wasn't put on anyone's list at all, where do you find this list of the snitch's...



and remember this...
FOR THE FIRST 6 DAY/NIGHTS, THE DON WILL SHOW AS AN INNOCENT ON ANY INVESTIGATION OR UPON LYNCHING.

and if the Vig would have hit any of them it would have stated it..

He said he MIGHT and that is why he still posted...

Forgot about the storyline with 3 townies and 1 Mafia, and responding to Ice's question about if the Vig had whacked someone or not..funny he should know that, he has played every game so far...for when we did have the Vig...

Thank you DD for explaining that to me...

It could very well be King, I have been keeping my eyes on him, and he seems to be playing the way he did when he was Don in game 4,

and if you notice in the story line, me and Plantling are together, and Mad and King are off to themselves...so I think it is one or the other...but Mad, I am kind of leaning away from you and I think we should go take a look at all of King's posts...that is what I am going to do to see if I can find anything between the lines...I know how he played in game 4 for I was a Mafia also...and he is posting just like he did there, go and compare, you will probably see the same as here...

I don't say anything about NOT being Mafia or an Innocent...just talking about how King is posting in regards to his game play in game 4...

The reason I am uncharacteristically quiet is because I had only 2-3 hours for reading and posting, because I work 10 hour days and I have to be in bed by 9 or 930 central time at the most or else I would be really tired at work, and alot of customers at work, running food, taking orders, and we are really busy right now at work...and so with alot of posting and trying to figure people out and reading (we are way ahead in this game than we were in game 5)...So don't even worry about me being Mafia, for that I am not...



No problem there...



How do I know you aren't Mafia...for I wouldn't even know that, only you would...

(we are way ahead in this game than we were in game 5)...

I was talking about posts so far, not Mafia, because I am not Mafia...

I am enjoying the game, it just seemed like some were taking the posts to an extreme, and it almost turned out like the one that happened in game 5...ouch...


I was talking about the story line, NOT me and her...



And I said storyline.....

Only second time I said I was not Mafia...just click on the arrow and read the transcript....

 

[mee-mee]

My order from the "snitch" list:

1.) Mee-mee- got very defensive when was on list
2.) Mad- he depends on if the snitch is for the mafia or town, I am on the bubble with his innocence. Because he was a suspect, the snitch (if mafia) would want to throw him under the bus. If the snitch is for the town, a very good mafia candidate...
2.) KOTD- tied with mad, really is a toss-up. Very quiet but is like that every game.
4.) Plantling- innocent. I see no way around that. Nothing suspicious in any posts, but still has a 1/4 chance of mafia like the others on this list...

why the attack on me JP, I was not defensive at all...show me where I was being defensive...as for me saying where is the list of the Snitch's...well, I forgot about the storyline thing with the 4 people, and that is not being defensive at all...

 

[mee-mee]

My order from the "snitch" list:

1.) Mee-mee- got very defensive when was on list
2.) Mad- he depends on if the snitch is for the mafia or town, I am on the bubble with his innocence. Because he was a suspect, the snitch (if mafia) would want to throw him under the bus. If the snitch is for the town, a very good mafia candidate...
2.) KOTD- tied with mad, really is a toss-up. Very quiet but is like that every game.
4.) Plantling- innocent. I see no way around that. Nothing suspicious in any posts, but still has a 1/4 chance of mafia like the others on this list...

Are you sure you're not Mafia...