LFS is killing 2-3 dragonfish a day!

my petsmart had some of these. every time i came in there was a dead one in the tank. i think there's only one left now. the other petsmart on the other side of town doesnt carry them. neat fish, but i think the big chains should leave this one to the local mom and pop stores if they cant provide proper care for them.
 
There are dedicated aquarists on the case. NoClownsInACube have been having serious dialogue with senior management at Petsmart of their innacurate point of sale information and Petsmart are being very receptive.

http://www.noclownsinacube.net/petsmart.html

Currently, people are working on providing evidence to Petsmart that the information they give out on maximum sizes and tank size requirements need serious upgrading. This is being done by accumulating expert data and photographic evidence.

It does seem that branches are run "By the book"......but the book is wrong:( Somewhere along the line Petsmart were given some very innacurate information and that is being perpetuated. Hopefully soon there will be changes and a major chain like this changing its ways may affect the whole industry.

Martin.
 
People everywhere are slow to accept the fact that information changes. I see this every day from customers who want goldfish because "when I was a kid I had a goldfish in a bowl and it lived 10 years!" Its hard for ppl and big companies to accept that what is acceptable or right changes throughout the years. I assume this influences a lot of policys for pet stores. It could also be (and this is just a wild guess because I have no clue what goes on in corporate) that they aren't aware of how different information was 20 years ago as compared to now. It would probably surprise some people to look at what our policies and procedures for things actually say.
 
Martin Thoene said:
There are dedicated aquarists on the case. NoClownsInACube have been having serious dialogue with senior management at Petsmart of their innacurate point of sale information and Petsmart are being very receptive.

http://www.noclownsinacube.net/petsmart.html

Currently, people are working on providing evidence to Petsmart that the information they give out on maximum sizes and tank size requirements need serious upgrading. This is being done by accumulating expert data and photographic evidence.

It does seem that branches are run "By the book"......but the book is wrong:( Somewhere along the line Petsmart were given some very innacurate information and that is being perpetuated. Hopefully soon there will be changes and a major chain like this changing its ways may affect the whole industry.

Martin.
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thanks for the link! I'll send other ppl there.
 
please don't call peta, they make my brain hurt and would just aggravate the workers. plus it seems a lot of people discount what they say now because of their increasingly bad rap about their own treatment of animals. the only thing that will change things like this is talking to corporate, and bugging them until they do something about it. if someone calls peta most likely they will just come to annoy employees like myself and make our lives that much more difficult.
 
On that site I linked you will find a letter from PETA. They are not interested because to them keeping ALL fish is wrong.

Martin.
 
^yeah, peta is against animals as pets,so they wouldn't help anyway. I also agree about them only annoying employees.
 
I have yet to see a violet goby dead at my local PetSmart, so they must be doing something correctly. By the way, with the way the inventory works in these stores, I strongly doubt your store is losing 2-3 daily, or even weekly.
 
There fish are dying because they are not properly cared for, not becuase they are not kept in a brackish environment.

These gobies are obviously adjusted to freshwater before they reach the store, other wise they would die as soon as they hit the freshwater.

They aren't dying in during the two weeks of return policy because of a non brackish environment either. I have seen these fish live in fw for months before showing signs of stress.

They need an eventual brackis environment, but the petsmart employee putting marine salt in a few tanks and shutting it off from the system is a recipe for serious disaster. It is pretty unwise trying to quickly, (as in less than a few weeks) to try and adjust a fish to different salinity. If the fish were of decent quality, the kind that will live through at least 2 separate acclimations in a few weeks, then it is up to the buyer to provide a proper environment for the fish. It would be a bad idea for petsmart to have separate brackish tanks, and I think it is proper for them to hold fishes that need a brackish environment eventually, in freshwater for ease of sale, and ease of acclimation for the buyer. Its a lot easier to put a fish in freshwater, and acclimate it very slowly to your own personal salinity before putting it in you main tank.

Responsibility lies with the buyer.

Sometimes, I feel like some people wished petsmart didn't sell anything interesting, just neons, guppies, golfish, and some cichlids. I could tell you, if all I had access to was petsmart, and they had a lame selection of bread and butter fishes, I certainly wouldn't be very interested in the hobby.

Im done now.. just my .02
 
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