Werewolf Game 1

My first post about the MAA...never does it say, COME ON OUT MAA...so ya can stop saying I said for the MAA to come out Mal...
Okay, we have a major dilemma on our hands, where are the Men at Arms...aren't they supposed to helping us find WW...this is so not far...

And King, I am really truly sorry for doubting you...

And it's funny how Mike put his vote in the very last minute...we are being duped, come on guys, and look at BKW's list, he put King on there...so what are we to do now...this is not good at all.....



My second post about the MAA...and still doesnt say COME ON OUT GUYS..
Or are the Men at Arms only supposed to protect us...if they communicate outside of the thread, how is that doing us any good...and the Priest may have been changed...I have a strong suspicion of who it may be...I think that Wata is the Priest and she was changed, and Malefic is the Alpha, read her last post and she of all people know that King was a Villager...


and my third and final post about the MAA...all I said was we need them in helping us...
Sorry, DD...just I was just fishing for something....and you have been very vocal...so then it would be a toss up between Wata, Mal, CL, BKW, and CS...

I really don't know about Mike anymore, but his last second vote is a little discerning....

And we need the Men at Arms helping us out.......

Well, I am going to do some digging tomorrow and see what I can find.....we need help MAA....


So you show me Mal, where is my posts do you see me asking for the MAA to reveal themselves....that is what I thought...NO WHERE...
That makes both mee mee and charlie openly asking for the men at arms to reveal themselves. Is it so late in the game that this still is'nt suicidal? At least for the villagers I mean. Would be dandy for the wolves, especially if they got a turn. Gad.. I never should have changed my vote. I vote to lynch Charlie. He put the word out that he wanted to know the men at arms. Mee mee is now my second suspect for the same reason. I guess it's the last thing the wolves have to worry about.

3:30 am, and instead of sleeping in till 4 before I go to work, I'm up playing the WW game... sigh.


And I totally agree with you LG, MAA DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT, reveal yourselves....all we ask is for help, and that is all....I never once said for you to reveal who you are....
This is driving me nuts (not just by you Chief), why does everyone keep saying the barons men should come out? What good would that do us? They can't protect anyone from anything. If I understand correctly they are just innocents who can talk to each other outside the game. So except for becoming the wolves next target what good would it be to anyone for them to come out????? Has no one been watching what happens here, someone comes out THEY GET TAKEN OUT BY WW, we loose ANOTHER INNOCENT. DO NOT COME OUT BARONS MEN!!

Malefic is twisting my words, and that is not good in my eyes...read carefully...and now I am your second suspect...hhhmmm...

I vote to lynch Malefic..

not because he says I am his second suspect, for having others believe I want the MAA to come out...NOT ON MY LIFE....and he was twisting my words, and saying things I never said....nice one Mal...:lipssealedsmilie:
 
I am leaning more and more toward DD/Wata as alpha. DD has posted more lately but she usually fails to really name anyone or give reasons why. Most of her post are just comments or saying "I am not Wolf"

Charlie, my right hand is raised, I am not the wolf
Ok, DD I know your an amazing woman but if you can type and hold your "right hand" up while typing you out do most I know.

DC, I don't recall you explaining much about why you suspect Male either... but here you claim you will never give a reason again as if you were the one who constantly went on and on about why and who you were voting for... something I'm missing? Are you posting it in the a different forum perhaps?

why charlie?

I see lots of votes, but no explanations for them
She has many post like this.

mee-mee, do you really think I would be so vocal if I were alpha or a wolf even? And Charlie, what happened to your suspicions on Male, I woulda thought your vote would be on him this fresh off the morning.
Soooo vocal, she has quite a few post but they consist of asking others why they are voteing the way they are or they are just comments to other post.

ok, I think I'm going to go for King because I don't really know enough about male other than he posted a vote against charlie.... his posts don't say much and we have been suspicious of King for sometime.

I vote to lynch King
Everyone was voting King at that time...and her votes don't say much either.

Holy shnipes!! I was gone all day and then to come and read that the voting would be Saturday morning completely freaked me out!! Ok, seeing the listings and reading up to current, it looks like the 3 popular votes are Male, Charlie, and King. I thought we were going to try to do a 3 way tie, no?

This was WAY after 8:30am so why so worried it had already been stated that the night was going to be later.

I do believe we really need to take out DD, Wata, or Male tonight I have been going back and forth between the three like crazy trying to decide which would be the best to go with but I really feel one of the three to be Alpha. DD has posted a couple post recently with a little supstance to them and just now Wata posted a decent post but other than that neither has really had much to say. I would like some others thoughts on this, I will keep my vote on Malefic for now but I may end up changing to one of the others if someone makes a good point for it. I'm just sooooo gun shy right now after Jo and then KOTD...we can not loose more innocents we have to get a WW!
 
That makes both mee mee and charlie openly asking for the men at arms to reveal themselves. Is it so late in the game that this still is'nt suicidal? At least for the villagers I mean. Would be dandy for the wolves, especially if they got a turn. Gad.. I never should have changed my vote. I vote to lynch Charlie. He put the word out that he wanted to know the men at arms. Mee mee is now my second suspect for the same reason. I guess it's the last thing the wolves have to worry about.
3:30 am, and instead of sleeping in till 4 before I go to work, I'm up playing the WW game... sigh.
I know MM did not say Come out guys, and I don't believe Charlie ever did either I remember charlie askin "should" the MAA come out and I think he may of said it a couple times, you forgot DC said it too, why didn't you mention that? I believe he is trying to twist words to make the innocents that he wants others to think are WW look more that way. I know I was on MM for a while but I may of been wrong with her, you have to look at everyone at some point..and Charlie I just don't think he is either. I believe this is a post from a WW trying to get 2 innocents.

Heh, no I'm not. I hope I'm not off with KOTD. Ice was throwing a lot of mud, and eyeballing everyone. Makes a lot of sense now I know he's the hunter, but I kinda figured he was just making sure all the fingers pointed away from Ice. Then again, I'm not really sure why I'm justifying myself to someone I think is a WW. Sorry, but I do. Call it gut.
We were all wrong about KOTD, so really can't use vote for him against anyone or for anyone. So either way you were safe voting king. Ummm didn't you already know Ice was hunter?

I vote to lynch Charlie Stubbs. Kotd is still a lead suspect, but charlie's been riding ice's coat tails for the first two days. Now he's flip flopped and is just plain riding ice. I know what ice is, but I've wondered before what charlie is. Let's find out.
Oh...yes I guess you did! This was posted BEFORE the one above where you SUDDENLY realized Ice was hunter:lipssealedsmilie:

Yes my vote to LYNCH MALEFIC stays the same.
 
Originally Posted by Dangerdoll
thank you Charlie. I am putting my trust in you, yet again, please Charlie, please don't be lying to me again... I don't know if I could handle that...Danger with my right hand to the god or gods of this village i am NOT a werewolf. You make me very nervous though DD, i know from past experience how cunning you can be, and how well you play innocent. I want to believe you. Charlie, I am on my knees, crossing my heart, hoping to die, promising that I am a villiger. I wish there were something more I could say that would assure you of my being a villiger. My right hand to God or the Gods, same as you that I am innocent. I am not trying to be cunning or playing an innocent, I am an innocent.

I have 2 probable WW's on my mind, they are
Malefic I see holes in her story Malefic is a guy. The fact you didnt notice that unnerves me. What holes did you see. If you didn't notice he was a guy, its unlikely you read his story at all. Sorry, I didn't see this. The way I went about it is I searched the thread for all posts my male and when I had come up with my suspicions, I simply couldn't recall. I honestly believed Male was a lady because of recalling how everyone got judge and wata wrong when they called each of them male when they were in fact ladies.... if that makes sense. It was an honest mistake, you have to believe that. I swear it.
Wata where is wata now? All of a sudden, *poof* her posts are close to nonexistant Agreed. What did happen to Wata?? It's my theory that she or malefic was the priest, and was turned on day 3.
Mike and this is on Charlies suspicion Mike wasn't looking that suspicious to me at all, until Ice pointed out he left the thread for a couple minutes after being logged on, then voted. It's posible he switched to invisible to confer with his team before voting, worth carefully watching, but isnt going to replace my vote for malefic anytime soon Correct. See, I didn't have the in depth understanding of that and now that I do, Mike has earned a permanent spot. But you know what, so has Wata and I will show you why. Yes, I know she was already on my list but her post quoted below only solidifies her postion on my list and I think we really need to keep tabs on her.

For now, I will vote Malefic.... I thinking that if Mee-mee feels so strongly about Male, we should go for it. However, if Male is an innocent, mee-mee, it wont be too good for you, sugar...Are you saying you think Mee Mee is innocent?? Thats interesting. She's on my watchlist. What convinced you of this Danger?? Show me the light. I'm not saying mee-mee is innocent but I haven't found anything to be "too" incriminating on her yet. Yes, she makes me nervous but I see her as playing very close to how she played the last mafia game. With that thought, she may be one to watch but I don't think she's one that needs to be highly profiled.
Charlie, I think you should reconsider your vote. I have voted for the same person as you. Again i am unnerved. You aren't paying very careful attention. Is it because you don't need to read the posts?? Do you already know what we are trying to find out??

hmmmmmmmmmmm...........
My mistake, I missed that post. When I was writing out my response, the last vote I saw from you was that you voted for Mike which was pretty early after the night. I didn't see the unvote Mike to vote Male post.

My thoughts -

DD - still suspicious to me due to what i previously researched, her antagonistic attitude towards Ice who was a known innocent (hunter). The wolves got pissed off that their hit missed the first night and have been going after Ice one way or another ever since that time.

Charlie - been living in Ice's shadow for much of the game. Following a strong leader or hiding in plain sight? Nothing much stands out to me in the posting, just in the way he does it. It is almost the way I would expect someone to act if they were both Baron's Men and newbies, but they are/were not newbies, and even if Charlie was a BMan, he should know better than to act so chummy.

Anyway, based on other posting styles, I think I know who two of the Baron's Men are, but I won't be sharing it for obvious reasons which I think we have agreed upon.

Bkw - very suspicious of him early in the game, which I dropped after Swayde cleared him of 'evil'. As far as this day is concerned, i am going to assume he is still innocent.
I find it extremely suspicious that Wata has Charlie and Me pegged as WW's and then claims that bkw is innocent when we are professing as much to being innocent and are pretty much thinking the direct opposite of bkw. She never even notes on our suspicions of he ibeing turned because Sway deemed him innocent, just off and claims he still is.
my notes in blue
 
I am leaning more and more toward DD/Wata as alpha. DD has posted more lately but she usually fails to really name anyone or give reasons why. Most of her post are just comments or saying "I am not Wolf"


Ok, DD I know your an amazing woman but if you can type and hold your "right hand" up while typing you out do most I know.


She has many post like this.


Soooo vocal, she has quite a few post but they consist of asking others why they are voteing the way they are or they are just comments to other post.


Everyone was voting King at that time...and her votes don't say much either.



This was WAY after 8:30am so why so worried it had already been stated that the night was going to be later.

I do believe we really need to take out DD, Wata, or Male tonight I have been going back and forth between the three like crazy trying to decide which would be the best to go with but I really feel one of the three to be Alpha. DD has posted a couple post recently with a little supstance to them and just now Wata posted a decent post but other than that neither has really had much to say. I would like some others thoughts on this, I will keep my vote on Malefic for now but I may end up changing to one of the others if someone makes a good point for it. I'm just sooooo gun shy right now after Jo and then KOTD...we can not loose more innocents we have to get a WW!
Lady, if you want to know more of why I vote the way I do or why who is on my list, you can simply ask. I have no problem spelling it out more than I do. And as for my holy snipes post, the reason I said that was because when I got to the computer to look at the WW thread, one of the first posts I read was the changing of the time and I was freaked out, simple as that. Casual conversation. Have you ever woken up late on a Saturday thinking it was a riday and you were late for work? Same kind of feeling, an adrenalin rush kind of thing, and I simply said it. No hidden meaning, nothing. You're barking up the wrong tree with suspecting me, Lady.
 
He says he can't say what patterns he sees building...and yet he is familiar with roleplaying and yet doesn't give any help...
Ah, back from a long day slaving over a wood burning stove. I trust all service at the pub was satisfactory today, and that a nourishing healthy meal was served to each of my good neighbors. And I ground up a little vial of silver salts into the food today, looking to see if anyone would burst into flames or something. No one did, but it's an old old spice, and may have lost it's potencey. I'll be looking into silver sage and cooking with wolfsbane from watauga's garden.

Quite a day of accuasation going on, it took me quite a while to read it, including all the lists. I've noticed a few patterns building, but I'm not sure if I should mention them or not. Being new to this kind of game, but an old hand at role playing games, I'm familar with a few of the standard deceptive tactics. I'll be reviewing the last minute posts and thinking about a quick vote change if get any kind of confirmation in my mind. I would like to ask for one clarification from another player.








17 other possible hit victims means 3 wolves right? And the game has 3-4 wolves in it. How do you know how many wolves are in the game? Or am I reading this wrong. Still feeling out the special roles factor of the game. Eh, I'm a newbie, and I'm picking up after a mind numbing 12.5 hour day...


i think the only reason he went along with the Coler hit, was to save face and not look WW...
OK, I've had some sleep on it and I think it's clarified things a bit. The hunter needs to take coler tonight. I know it's risky, but there's just no other way we're going to get anything done if the hunter does'nt. Reading back over these posts, it's not just about getting two wolves at once, it's about protecting the priest, and keeping one of the men at arms from getting turned. If we lose the priest, we lose the seer. If we lose any man at arms, then the wolves have a direct pipeline into how a large voting block is going to go, and who they suspect (communicating with both groups). Either of these situations would be catastrophic for the village.

My guesses as to wolvishness...

Ice. Not at first, but after last night? Yeah. He's pretty darn threatening, and he's turned over the most stones looking for wolves. They want him.

Bkw. It's like this. Do we want to hit where the wolves have gone (ice I think) or where they started? Ice would'nt be the alpha. Bkw might just be.

Dawn brings Mal to the pub once more. Poor Joeander! Once my trusted friend and neighbor, and now, torn down not by a werewolf, but by our own fears! He unlatches the back door and looks at the claw marks still deep in the wood there from the first night. Are we so craven as a wolf? Has the darkness in their souls already leeched into ours? And coler! Was he the one who scarred this oak panel? Is there any coler left now? Or is it all beast, with a little shade of a man wrapped around it? Mal sinks to his knees once more to pray for what might be left of little coler's soul...


Talking about Ice taking out Coler, but still tells Sway to look into Ice...
Just stepping back in whilst I sip morning coffee... Should'nt our hunter (ice is that you?) take out our known wolf, while we hit our suspect? I'm not sure if the distinction makes a difference or not. I suppose it's easier if the whole group votes our known wolf while the hunter hits a suspect, just because it's easier to organize groups in known directions, but I think ice is going to either get eaten or turned pretty soon now. He's too good at this for the remaining wolves to tolerate long, and the priest has to stay focused on swayde.

Seer, I don't think it matters too much which you check out tonight, bkw or kotd or jpappy. Strong cases have been made for each, and anyone you can verify as an innocent will take some of the pressure off these terrible decisions. Just don't examine whoever is going to get hit! As for the round after tomorrow night, I think you have to check ice then. If he's still with us, God willing, he's just been waved in the wolves faces too long. I know he's the obvious choice, and therby a bad choice, but the lycans have got to be hurting pretty bad by now. I used to think charlie, just because he was such a deciple of ice, but his gameplay changed a lot after the second night. He's not following ice anymore, so I don't know if that means ice changed, or charlie changed, or the game just developed more.


And then this goofy post....
That makes both mee mee and charlie openly asking for the men at arms to reveal themselves. Is it so late in the game that this still is'nt suicidal? At least for the villagers I mean. Would be dandy for the wolves, especially if they got a turn. Gad.. I never should have changed my vote. I vote to lynch Charlie. He put the word out that he wanted to know the men at arms. Mee mee is now my second suspect for the same reason. I guess it's the last thing the wolves have to worry about.

3:30 am, and instead of sleeping in till 4 before I go to work, I'm up playing the WW game... sigh.

I wish I had all the time to make a reply to every one of Mal's posts but we are coming down the wire....but I have read every one of his posts and there is nothing in there where he doesn't say anything helpful for us Villagers to find WW...so my vote sticks with him...and then we need to look at Wata, because she has become very quiet in the last 2 days...hhhmmm:lipssealedsmilie:
and I really don't think DD is Alpha or just plain WW...I strongly think she is Villager just like the rest of us who are good and not evil..
 
Argh, I don't know what to do.

I'm on so many lists right now i feel like I'm "damned if i do, damned if i don't". I don't want to vote for malefic, because A. that would be jumping on a wagon at this point and B. if he really does turn out to be a wolf i'm going to have to beat him up in real life. and that would make me sad.

As far as assuming that bkw is stil innocent - he's posted, like, twice since Swayde cleared him? that's really not enough to go on in determining if he is a wolf. obviously i was wrong about him during the time when he was definitely innocent, so i don't want to jump the gun and convict him this time, because i was obviously very wrong about KOTD and he was the second most suspicious person to me once bkw was cleared. i don't want to make that mistake again without more information.
 
crap. . . okay.

I Vote To Lynch Dangerdoll

She is top of my suspect list, not showing me very much in the way of proving innocence, or even any kind of remorse for going after Ice. I think she's glad he's out of the picture.
 
Well.. a miserable day at work, and I come home to a nice cozy lynch mob. Nice being with the village, and looks like there's gonna be some very fooling looking people in about six minutes.
 
Looks like it is going to be Malefic tonight then, and why can't ya vote for him Wata...
 
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