Zombies -- Mafia #11

[Swayde]

I wish you would vote, it can always be changed. I wish more people would throw an early vote out there, just so we can get an idea of how strong people feel about things.

I think this would stop a few trains, too often people vote for someone just because they have a few votes on them already.

If CS would have atleast thrown out a vote, he would still be in the game. I see lots of good reasons to vote early. That way if something happens and I am not able to come online, I still have voted. I think I have always voted early.

I only vote when I have a reason to vote for someone. I am torn between Coler and DD right now.

Coler because he was posting quite a bit yesterday and has not posted today even though I'd seen him viewing the thread earlier today for quite awhile.

DD because I was already suspicious of her to begin with and then today all she does is toss out some kinda "weak" comment on Coler or Ogre, says she's going to check which said something and then doesn't post anything else. So I have to wonder, does she really believe there is a connection/pattern with the "weak" comments or is she trying to stir up a hornets nest again like I've seen her do on occasions when she is evil.

 

[Coler]

I only vote when I have a reason to vote for someone. I am torn between Coler and DD right now.

Coler because he was posting quite a bit yesterday and has not posted today even though I'd seen him viewing the thread earlier today for quite awhile.
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That is not true - I possibly didn't log off after having skimmed for 10 minutes which might I think make me look like I'm actually still 'there'. I'm back briefly now and will post as I think best for the town.

From my skim I have not changed much from my suspicions of yesterday; I still therefore have Ogre and DD as my candidates. Ogre's post (located by Ice) as to who he belives is innocent has scummy qualities in my opinion - if he's a zombie he knows who is innocent, so everyone on the innocent list would be correct, and is supposed to go hmmmm....good old Ogre...he's right about me anyway...probably an innocent too.

So I currently intend voting for Ogre. DD is on my suspect list. Swayde you are up a notch on the zombometer because of your weak reason for suspecting me - this might seem disproportionate to you but I know I'm innocent and I havn't made a post which I would objectively accepts shows scummy behaviour; therefore I have supsicions over those who suspect me, if that makes sense.

 

[Coler]

OK..my thoughts...there is very little from which I can build a case based on the posting so far today - I am still where I was yesterday as regards my suspects, perhaps a little more so as regards the strength of my suspicions.

Ogre - still, because of his reaction to my accusation early day 1
DD - just the sense I get from her posts

I have moved swayde up just a notch in my head - although I accept that the comment is not completely unfair.

I need to think long and hard about JL and Lady G.

For what it is worth, I get a sense of innocence about Ice, unusually for me

edit : am I correct in thinking that there is until 8pm EST tomorrow in this day ?

once again I vote to lynch Ogre as nothing has happened to change my opinion as to his evilness.

 

[Lady G]

What is up with everyoe using the word "weak"?

My suspect list is just as good as anyone elses.

I am still not buying the "let's lynch someone that was already dying, atleast they are not a power role" tatic.

This has been discussed and discouraged in other games. Just like voting for no one, it hurts the town. For the three of you to do that within the last 2 hours, seems odd to me.

Plus, Ice, you think I am a zombie, but you saved me. This I do not understand. If I read it right, you voted for CS for two reasons, one DC was against it and he is a zombie so you were for it and two, if CS was going to die for not voting, most likely he was not a power role or a zombie, but it was better than voting for an unknown player that could be innocent or a power role.
Yes, it has..but it has been discussed in THIS game that it was necessary one night one, I agree getting a zombie would of been absolute best...but no one is 100% on who a zombie may be. We may feel someone is (like yourself) but it is NOT 100%..so in THIS particular vote. Every circumstance is different, every game is different...what was good for one game is not necessarily good for the next.

If you think I am a zombie, then vote for me. There are plenty others that agree. But to post that I am a zombie and then save me makes no sense.
Again, I would NORMALLY agree w/ this..but I do see the reason for the change.

Even if it was not me, this is odd. How come no one else has seen this or posted about it?

Because it was discussed at the time the decision was made..no need to talk about it now, pretty much.

I wish you would vote, it can always be changed. I wish more people would throw an early vote out there, just so we can get an idea of how strong people feel about things.

I think this would stop a few trains, too often people vote for someone just because they have a few votes on them already.
Ok, so we should vote early to AVOID a train?? I'm a little confused (yes I said confused) to this...unless I'm reading it wrong and please let me know if I am, but we should throw out an early vote, to STOP trains, because some ppl vote for others just because there is a few vote on them. Is it me or does this seem "contradictory"? Please I would like others thoughts on this if I am wrong.

If CS would have atleast thrown out a vote, he would still be in the game. I see lots of good reasons to vote early. That way if something happens and I am not able to come online, I still have voted. I think I have always voted early.

Yes, and if KOTD or Gup had thrown in a vote they would still be here also, so I'm not sure what point you have here?

I only vote when I have a reason to vote for someone. I am torn between Coler and DD right now.

Coler because he was posting quite a bit yesterday and has not posted today even though I'd seen him viewing the thread earlier today for quite awhile.

DD because I was already suspicious of her to begin with and then today all she does is toss out some kinda "weak" comment on Coler or Ogre, says she's going to check which said something and then doesn't post anything else. So I have to wonder, does she really believe there is a connection/pattern with the "weak" comments or is she trying to stir up a hornets nest again like I've seen her do on occasions when she is evil.

Swayde just a couple things here, in a earlier post when you first said something about DD, it was mentioned that you had never mentioned her before, you said you had but didn't want to say anything. The question I have is IF you had these suspicions wouldn't it of been more anti-town to put them out there so others could see it also?? With DD I do understand she is very hard to read..I've played several games with her and I can't think of one that I didn't think she seemed evil, because of her game style.
Having said that I also was wondering what she came up with when she "checked" back.

OK..my thoughts...there is very little from which I can build a case based on the posting so far today - I am still where I was yesterday as regards my suspects, perhaps a little more so as regards the strength of my suspicions.

Ogre - still, because of his reaction to my accusation early day 1
DD - just the sense I get from her posts

I have moved swayde up just a notch in my head - although I accept that the comment is not completely unfair.

I need to think long and hard about JL and Lady G.

For what it is worth, I get a sense of innocence about Ice, unusually for me

edit : am I correct in thinking that there is until 8pm EST tomorrow in this day ?
Yes, Coler unless something has changed that I'm not aware of it is 8pm tomorrow night.

once again I vote to lynch Ogre as nothing has happened to change my opinion as to his evilness.

 

[johnlarson66]

Because it was discussed at the time the decision was made..no need to talk about it now, pretty much.

How was lynching someone that was gonna die anyway better than lynching me, who he thought was a zombie? Why say I am a zombie, but save me. Is he saying that he does not think I am a zombie? Maybe he thought I was not a zombie then, but now I am turned. Why in the world did he save me if he thinks I am a zombie?


Yes, and if KOTD or Gup had thrown in a vote they would still be here also, so I'm not sure what point you have here?

My point is to vote early. CS had posted and wanted to play, but something came up, if would have voted when he posted, he would still be here, that is my point. The other two did not even post.


Swayde just a couple things here, in a earlier post when you first said something about DD, it was mentioned that you had never mentioned her before, you said you had but didn't want to say anything. The question I have is IF you had these suspicions wouldn't it of been more anti-town to put them out there so others could see it also?? With DD I do understand she is very hard to read..I've played several games with her and I can't think of one that I didn't think she seemed evil, because of her game style.
Having said that I also was wondering what she came up with when she "checked" back.

My comments in blue

 

[johnlarson66]

See I keep going back and forth on both JL and DC being evil, I see nothing on either to make me see innocent on either though...so I have to lean more to them both being zombie.
For this reason, I am in a toss up with Orge. If both JL and DC are zombie then I don't think he can be since we only had 2 in the begining, and with all the heat that has been on Orge I can't see him as a night 1 turn. But there are soo many things pointing to Orge being evil, so this is a hard one for me.

Okay Lady G,

Who do you think is a zombie? Instead of trying to add fire to others dicussions, who do you think is a zombie.

Here you are unsure if JL and DC are evil, but both could be. Then Ogre is acting like a zombie, but if he is not one, you do not think they would have turned him.

So for the record your list is:

JL
DC
Ogre

Is that your list or just some fights you are trying to feed. All I see is that you are trying to start stuff without getting involved. Atleast pick a side.

 

[Lady G]

My comments in blue

Umm, John they did post, these are from day one...then KOTD posted after day 2 saying he will vote this day, it was brought to his attention that he was dead.

only 20 posts so far guys? lol

just incase ayone has forgotten..

hi, im back

So, you'r argument of them not posting is wronge, you need to look before you post something as fact.

 

[Lady G]

Okay Lady G,

Who do you think is a zombie? Instead of trying to add fire to others dicussions, who do you think is a zombie.

Here you are unsure if JL and DC are evil, but both could be. Then Ogre is acting like a zombie, but if he is not one, you do not think they would have turned him.

So for the record your list is:

JL
DC
Ogre

Is that your list or just some fights you are trying to feed. All I see is that you are trying to start stuff without getting involved. Atleast pick a side.

Again are you not looking before you post? I have mentioned these as my suspects several times...even made long post as to what I see..how can you say I am just starting stuff w/o getting involved. I DID PICK A SIDE.

Yes I said I do not think all three could be zombies (as of day one) we only had 2 zombies....so common sense here, but all three could not be zombies. And no I do not think that the zombies would of chose one of you for night 1 turn simply b/c there has been to much attention brought to all of you. So again common sense but, I believe at least 2 of them to be zombie the other is just posting in a way that looks evil, and the only one who has even remotely seemed to try and be helpful was Ogre...thus my reason for leaning him the most innocent of the three.

 

[Lady G]

In most games this move would have been frowned upon and maybe DC hasn't looked at how strategy has to differ in this game.

Although in Ice's post he made a good point that I have been thinking about. I could see that. But then I look back and DC has said so much that seemed against the towns best intrest.

Yes I do go back and forth alot in this game...I can't help that I do not want to take an innocent and want to be as sure as I can before I vote.

 

[Lady G]

I was just checking in to see if anything new had come about, I have to do some more running today and then have the Karate class tonight so I may or may not be back on until later. If I can I will post between running's.