Just to clarify my list
leaning innocent
DD
LG
Ogre
Mad
Coler
Ewurm
Jpap
Sway
leaning evil
JL
DC
Bkw
leaning innocent
DD
LG
Ogre
Mad
Coler
Ewurm
Jpap
Sway
leaning evil
JL
DC
Bkw
Zombies -- Mafia #11
- Thread starter Rbishop
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I reread his initial vote for you and I agree...a bold move if he is a zombie...I retract my vote for Ogre and vote to lynch JL
edit : this would mean those others moving on to charlie are also candidates. Also that JL if he is a zombie is not the zombie czar - he was going very quietly to his doom late on day 1, too quietly to have been the boss.
This day has lots of time left and will be interesting.
btw I have not been able to pull out anything which stands alone sufficiently to bring to the town from the day one votes.
Does anyone else think that peolple mentioning who they think will be turned zombie are either
A. tryin to distract from who is goin to be turned
B. tryin to be helpful but in the end are just giving the zombies an easy pick.
my top suspects
jp
lady
A. tryin to distract from who is goin to be turned
B. tryin to be helpful but in the end are just giving the zombies an easy pick.
my top suspects
jp
lady
asking for 'top 3 of who you would turn' is not in my opinion genuinely useful...I note that JL was the first to ask for this information from the town - I would need the reasoning explained to me again before I accept its usefulness.
OgreMkV
Father of Earth's Next Emperor
Ice, I was about to ask you why you didn't agree with myself and Mad on DD and LadyG... then you posted.
To be honest, I'm still looking for a reason in there. Just because they didn't attack you isn't a very good reason (IMO).
Let me post a few lists for discussion:
Most obvious turn targets (both two nights):
If Mad or Ice were the turn victims, then I and others are being led astray. However, I notice that Mad and Ice are against and for the same two players (LadyG and DD).
Now, if Ice is the turn victim, then he may be trying to protect them. If Mad is the turn victim, then he may be trying to have them eliminated. If neither is the turn victim, then we have an honest difference of opinion and (based on the evidence) I am leaning much more Mad's way that Ice's.
Coler is somewhat surprising to me right now. He seems to be still on the vote off the non-players thing... which, I admit, others started and kept bringing up, but it is surprising to me that he would get involved. I am very much looking forward to a few more posts from him regarding his analysis of the day's discussion.
It's also curious that Mad, myself and Coler have pretty much the same list of suspicious players... which is really pushing me into the direction of believing them more innocent than not. Mad started and I kind of started the DD/LadyG thing and Coler seems to have jumped onboard with little encouragement or statements of support.
Right now, I trust mad more than Coler. But that's like saying I'd rather have smallpox than ebola.
DD's analysis of Ewurm is interesting too. It's a pretty good piece, but then, it's not hard to push the kind of play that eWurm has done so far as suspicious.
JohnLarson is also acting unusual. I don't really understand what his hangups are with the voting and the lack of analysis. He doesn't post much, that I understand. However, his posts in past games have seemed to be much more in depth and insightful than this game's posts.
There are 3 zombies and 4 townie roles. That's seven players. I have seven people that I have studied somewhat and have found causes for concern. It's my experience that all players with a role play somewhat differently than 'normal'. I know I do (and I think all of you know it as well).
Is my list perfect? No way. But I would very much like to hear thoughts from everyone on my lists. And a 'I agree' won't cut it. Let's hear why you agree or disagree.
At this point, I'm a hair''s breath from pulling my vote for DD, I just have no where to park it right now. We have about 24 hours. Time to crank up the discussion.
Ewurm, I REALLY REALLY want to hear some stuff from you. BKW< you and jpap too!
To be honest, I'm still looking for a reason in there. Just because they didn't attack you isn't a very good reason (IMO).
Let me post a few lists for discussion:
Most obvious turn targets (both two nights):
- Coler
- Ice
- Mad
- Dangerdoll
- LadyG
- JohnLarson
- Ewurm (low prob... have no experience with the wurm, but posts not very in depth or useful)
- no one
If Mad or Ice were the turn victims, then I and others are being led astray. However, I notice that Mad and Ice are against and for the same two players (LadyG and DD).
Now, if Ice is the turn victim, then he may be trying to protect them. If Mad is the turn victim, then he may be trying to have them eliminated. If neither is the turn victim, then we have an honest difference of opinion and (based on the evidence) I am leaning much more Mad's way that Ice's.
Coler is somewhat surprising to me right now. He seems to be still on the vote off the non-players thing... which, I admit, others started and kept bringing up, but it is surprising to me that he would get involved. I am very much looking forward to a few more posts from him regarding his analysis of the day's discussion.
It's also curious that Mad, myself and Coler have pretty much the same list of suspicious players... which is really pushing me into the direction of believing them more innocent than not. Mad started and I kind of started the DD/LadyG thing and Coler seems to have jumped onboard with little encouragement or statements of support.
Right now, I trust mad more than Coler. But that's like saying I'd rather have smallpox than ebola.
DD's analysis of Ewurm is interesting too. It's a pretty good piece, but then, it's not hard to push the kind of play that eWurm has done so far as suspicious.
JohnLarson is also acting unusual. I don't really understand what his hangups are with the voting and the lack of analysis. He doesn't post much, that I understand. However, his posts in past games have seemed to be much more in depth and insightful than this game's posts.
There are 3 zombies and 4 townie roles. That's seven players. I have seven people that I have studied somewhat and have found causes for concern. It's my experience that all players with a role play somewhat differently than 'normal'. I know I do (and I think all of you know it as well).
Is my list perfect? No way. But I would very much like to hear thoughts from everyone on my lists. And a 'I agree' won't cut it. Let's hear why you agree or disagree.
At this point, I'm a hair''s breath from pulling my vote for DD, I just have no where to park it right now. We have about 24 hours. Time to crank up the discussion.
Ewurm, I REALLY REALLY want to hear some stuff from you. BKW< you and jpap too!
I'm not going back to the voting for non-players thing as such - just making my thought processes transparent.
You won't get much out of me to(formenight) - 1:45am and I'm out. But, I'll get back on the thread in 7 or 8 hours or so.
I want to see what happens to the JL vote (i.e. what happens when I trust ice).
My gut is still leading me to DD and Ogre though. We will have a lot more to work with as this day really gets going.
You won't get much out of me to(formenight) - 1:45am and I'm out. But, I'll get back on the thread in 7 or 8 hours or so.
I want to see what happens to the JL vote (i.e. what happens when I trust ice).
My gut is still leading me to DD and Ogre though. We will have a lot more to work with as this day really gets going.
I wouldn't pull off DD so fast.
Her post on Ewurm seems to convenient. Its a (I'm going to use that word lol ) weak case at best. An easy target to make her look townie until the vote came down. Not necessarily a lynch vote getter as we're all wrong about someone but it does its job. Leaves us down a townie.
I don't think Ewurm is evil, it doesn't feel like it, yet.
As I read Ogres post and thought about it its true that just because they didn't attack me doesn't make them innocent. But I believe LG is innocent and the reason DD didn't attack me is the fact that JL and DC are already on me. No reason to throw number 3 and have them all looked at. Thats why DC vote is on LG but throwing accusations my way.
Would also be a good reason why DD knows LG is innocent.
My revised zombie list is
JL
DC
DD
Her post on Ewurm seems to convenient. Its a (I'm going to use that word lol ) weak case at best. An easy target to make her look townie until the vote came down. Not necessarily a lynch vote getter as we're all wrong about someone but it does its job. Leaves us down a townie.
I don't think Ewurm is evil, it doesn't feel like it, yet.
As I read Ogres post and thought about it its true that just because they didn't attack me doesn't make them innocent. But I believe LG is innocent and the reason DD didn't attack me is the fact that JL and DC are already on me. No reason to throw number 3 and have them all looked at. Thats why DC vote is on LG but throwing accusations my way.
Would also be a good reason why DD knows LG is innocent.
My revised zombie list is
JL
DC
DD
I re-read Ogres post and I have moved him considerably down the scale of zombiehood.
edit : a thought...who is DD voting for ? I recall a pattern of making accusations (including at me) but not nailing a vote on foot of them - why is she not voting for ewurm ? if she is my apologies I missed it.
ok - till tomorrow
edit : a thought...who is DD voting for ? I recall a pattern of making accusations (including at me) but not nailing a vote on foot of them - why is she not voting for ewurm ? if she is my apologies I missed it.
ok - till tomorrow
John's list:
Based on what is posted above, my top three are:
jpappy789
Swayde
IceH2O
These are the last three I would pick. Don't know about Swayde, but Ice is working hard to get a zombie as far as I can tell. Here's my list:
Dangerdoll- Combative and defensive
JL- Suspicious of people I think are helping the town
Ogre- Acting shady
I vote to lynch JL66, AGAIN
Based on what is posted above, my top three are:
jpappy789
Swayde
IceH2O
These are the last three I would pick. Don't know about Swayde, but Ice is working hard to get a zombie as far as I can tell. Here's my list:
Dangerdoll- Combative and defensive
JL- Suspicious of people I think are helping the town
Ogre- Acting shady
I vote to lynch JL66, AGAIN
Your argument with Coler has me worried. I have no idea how to take it. I originally thought that it might be a cover to defray suspicion between both of you. Coler is new to me and I can't get the read of him. Your argumentative posts have me suspicious of you. Coler, I just can't figure out.
