Mafia #13 - The Witches of ACville- the play

[ZSandmann]

I wonder if KoTD is going to get a vote in time or die another untimely death due to lack of voting.

I was wondering that as well. He is the only person with no vote down, but King is also one of the people I have the hardest time reading.

I haven't seen a lot that makes me super suspicious yet. The newbies are playing weird but that's pretty normal. Everyone's acting like their normal selves. Right now I think DD, LG and Jpap are probably innocent. Mostly because their styles seem more relaxed and talkative than the times when they're evil. ZSand, Swayde and CS have my interest but I need to see more of them before I make any decisions one way or another. KOTD and Ogre have been quiet but their few posts have had logic to them. I guess I'll keep rereading and looking for stuff.

Dc I'm hear to answer anything you want to ask me. Day 1 isn't my best day deductively but I always try to find something of substance to place a vote on. Historically I'm usually wrong, but JM's vagueness is all I have right now.

I wish we knew how many witches there were. I like being able to say okay, there are 5 bad guys and 10 good guys and then I can categorize people accordingly...the top 10 people I think are innocent or a few bad guys and the shady, in-between folks and then pick out the person I think is most lkely evil. This not knowing how many there are kinda throws a wrench into that strategy though and so I have to assume everyone is a witch, but I know a few are definitely good power roles and then it really gets hard....argggh...can't think =/

Yup I agree with this, but I suppose if you want to look at it from a game perspective it makes more sense not to tell us their numbers. Also makes me keep the Tums nearby though.

Yeah, there's always the big danger of confusing good power people with witches. I seem to do that at least once a game.

Hey I'm notorious for mixing the two. Maybe if I start voting for who I think are the PRs I'll hit witches. erv:

 

[ZSandmann]

Quick lunch grab and out but I didn't some fast reading, obviously when I get home tonight I'll really read whats going on but this post by DD jumped out at me.

I don't think evil would be this helpful. It somewhat eases my mind on my suspicions of DD, since they were really only based loosely on a couple of posts.

I might seem overly aggressive this 1 st day but its like I said earlier. More often then not I'm outed the 1st day by a hit or lynched day 2. I just wanted to get names out their for reactions be it defensive in nature or to get others looking in those directions that might find something I haven't seen.

Be back after work.

DD's pretty high on my Innocent list right now, but you're still a solid 5. Your posts about the poems, and that eye of Sauron give me the willies. Otherwise I haven't seen anything glaringly Witchy to you.

 

[KingOfTheDeep]

ok, if we are looking to RB's posts as clues for who we ashould be focusing on, this is what I've come up with.

a noted and posted difference in white/black witches, AND the three foldfold train of thoughts, so soon! Some folks have been reading up! Great! - post 34

Noting that there are noticable differences in witches and that the town is doing a little homework.

Go away evil dreams
its not what it seems
go away go far away leave my dreams sight
give me at least one good night - Post 126

Perhaps this is saying it's someone experieced, a veteran of the game. One who is usually voted off early. Perhaps, this is Ice..... whether it's saying that he is evil is to be determined. It says to go away evil dreams, it's not what it seems. Perhaps it's saying that he is a PR.


"Cast of a shadow I am thee, make the ones who look, not see me.
I am thin air not to be seen, I am a shadow invisible both silent and lean." - Post 127

I am led to believe this may be Judge. Cast of a shadow make ones look... that to me is saying that the very witch we spoke about in the upper left hand corner of her avatar is precisely the one mentioned here. Thin air, not to be seen....yeap, tells me it's Judge.


"As it be thought in the mind of others
both familiar and strange
both sisters and brothers
may it be heard in mine own head
loud and clear as if it'd been said." - Post 188

This to me is saying that there is someone who we have in common on our suspected lists but we aren't making too much of a big deal about it, maybe we just aren't coming together with it. Perhaps this is saying we should be looking at a newbie.


tail of rat
wing of bat
allow this cat to chit and chat! - Post 190

Not really sure of this as the visuals are all over our avatars and names. However, I do see the points brought up by you guys but I do think that either we are reading either too far into it or not enough. If I were to guess at a glance, it is saying to me that someone who drinks the witchy brew is quite talkative. That can be LG, she's got 67 posts here, while Z has 35posts and is in 2nd place then we have 3rd place Ice who has 27 posts.

this is a very good post, very logical..i can definitely see the point about LG, and i have been suspicious of her since my first post..

so for now, i vote to burn ladyG

 

[ZSandmann]

Hi King. What do you think of JM right now? Actually this goes to everyone. She's the leading candidate right now and I just want to know how many folks feel she is Innocnet vs. Witchy. If you don't have an opinion that is fine as well.

I have 5 votes on JM, three on plantling and DC, 2 on Ice, and 1 on Charlie and Lady G.

 

[OgreMkV]

Guys, can I say something about this whole 'Rb's hints' thing?

It's almost ridiculous. The town has won almost every game ever played here. We don't need any hints from the ref to figure stuff out. We'll get there. Unless Rb made it 7 witches to 8 townies, then we're going to win... it will just take some time. The bad guys will screw up somewhere.

In the interest of full disclosure... I figure I can bring this up as I'm not 'implicated' in the 'hints'. If someone else had said this, you guys would be jumping all over it.

 

[ZSandmann]

I agree with that Ogre. What I can see happening is someone with well-intentions might find a witch that "fits" one of those spells and then they'll start a witch hunt that will leave a bunch of Innocent bodies in it's wake.

 

[plantling]

Yeah, there's always the big danger of confusing good power people with witches. I seem to do that at least once a game.

I had both Z, who was the doctor and HN, who was the detective on my suspect list at one point. I did say Z and/or HN, though.

Not much is going on, but I do agree that perhaps we shouldn't confuse things by pondering too much on the clues.

 

[plantling]

edit: that first sentence should mentioned Game 12.

 

[KingOfTheDeep]

Guys, can I say something about this whole 'Rb's hints' thing?

It's almost ridiculous. The town has won almost every game ever played here. We don't need any hints from the ref to figure stuff out. We'll get there. Unless Rb made it 7 witches to 8 townies, then we're going to win... it will just take some time. The bad guys will screw up somewhere.

In the interest of full disclosure... I figure I can bring this up as I'm not 'implicated' in the 'hints'. If someone else had said this, you guys would be jumping all over it.

the town has won games on RB hints and clues before.

i dont remember which game it was, but the last time i was mafia, we had a town sweep going, until RB gave the town clues, which led them to a win.

i don't like the fact that you dont even want to give the clues a chance..they ARE here to help the town out when it needs some help..do you not want to help the town?, could one or two of your buddies be in trouble due to these clues?

things that make you go hmmmmmmmmm

 

[KingOfTheDeep]

Hi King. What do you think of JM right now? Actually this goes to everyone. She's the leading candidate right now and I just want to know how many folks feel she is Innocnet vs. Witchy. If you don't have an opinion that is fine as well.

I have 5 votes on JM, three on plantling and DC, 2 on Ice, and 1 on Charlie and Lady G.

don't quite know what to think about her yet, i have not read much into her posts