If it's 10-8 (I realize my earlier post of 9-8 doesn't work out, since there are 18 of us, duh) with an additional 5 special roles, we can't afford to lose any townies, especially to Untimely Deaths. It would only increase the odds of the mafia winning and of us accidently lynching the special roles and making it easier for mafia to manipulate voting. I think this plan is foolish and very antit-town.
Mafia #14 -- The Play
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If it's 10-8 (I realize my earlier post of 9-8 doesn't work out, since there are 18 of us, duh) with an additional 5 special roles, we can't afford to lose any townies, especially to Untimely Deaths. It would only increase the odds of the mafia winning and of us accidently lynching the special roles and making it easier for mafia to manipulate voting. I think this plan is foolish and very antit-town.
This is a sudden change in your character Charlie. You were previously ready to kill the mafia scumbags, now your saying you are retracting your vote and will die an untimely death for the sake of us townies? Something doesnt seem right here, I think this is a cop out on your part.
A guilt trip here? Or a poor attempt at appearing that you are thinking of others? Could be you are just sucking up to us townies. You'll have to provide more than this to me for me to believe that you are innocent.
I was thinking what if RB made all the newbies new mafia with a leader like DD, HN, CS, Ogre, Ice, Mad, JL, Jpap..someone who's experienced and good at fooling people. That would be funny =) I've also thought of the old mafia being people like DP, CL, Jensons, JM... the 4th could be anyone else really. The reason this came to me is because this is the most newbies I can recall seeing in 1 game, although my first game may have had just as many, but since I was new, I wasn't too sure who else was aside from the obvious MikeNDanielle. I also find the return of some players who haven't played a lot recently a bit suspicious.
OK so I've had the night to sleep on it.. Have taken some time this morning to go through some posts and have comprised my top three on who I'm thinking should be watched a little closer with one being my vote getter..
Charlie - to much RP and then has gone quite now in this most recent post he removed the vote from DP because of the "train" starting on him that was in fact started by his own game play. His posts have been nothing but fluff or comments that in fact are nothing but drivel. As soon as the accusation was made about him having quite a few power roles because Bob "tweaks" the game and that since he hadn't been Don it would be a good reason to place him in such a roll he went immediately quiet other than to make a post about my grammar. Now he players the whole martyr card by removing his vote and saying he'd rather die a UD.. Hogwash. Please everyone refresh your memory with the way Bob performs nightly activities. And he really has yet to answer the ABC question.
I vote to lynch Charlie
blue - First day a couple of messages and then yesterday completely putting someone else on the defensive and feel it is simply a revenge event for judges first vote. She hasn't really concentrated on anything else and pretty much just shined a light on the judge. While I don't disagree with this tactic its the first day when everyone should be looked at very closely.. While I don't deny that the judge would make a pretty good candidate and she is on my list a townie just doesn't concentrate on one individual they look at everyone. This in itself makes me highly suspicious of her and think that she needs further scrutiny.
judge - acting way to much like mafia 5 when she was found to be mafia with constantly being on the defensive. She posts a list with absolutely no qualifications just to get a list out there and draw attention away from herself. When questioned on the list she didn't comment but added posts about how she wasn't on the defensive but later states that she has been put on the defensive.. Again high on my list to watch.
Charlie - to much RP and then has gone quite now in this most recent post he removed the vote from DP because of the "train" starting on him that was in fact started by his own game play. His posts have been nothing but fluff or comments that in fact are nothing but drivel. As soon as the accusation was made about him having quite a few power roles because Bob "tweaks" the game and that since he hadn't been Don it would be a good reason to place him in such a roll he went immediately quiet other than to make a post about my grammar. Now he players the whole martyr card by removing his vote and saying he'd rather die a UD.. Hogwash. Please everyone refresh your memory with the way Bob performs nightly activities. And he really has yet to answer the ABC question.
I vote to lynch Charlie
blue - First day a couple of messages and then yesterday completely putting someone else on the defensive and feel it is simply a revenge event for judges first vote. She hasn't really concentrated on anything else and pretty much just shined a light on the judge. While I don't disagree with this tactic its the first day when everyone should be looked at very closely.. While I don't deny that the judge would make a pretty good candidate and she is on my list a townie just doesn't concentrate on one individual they look at everyone. This in itself makes me highly suspicious of her and think that she needs further scrutiny.
judge - acting way to much like mafia 5 when she was found to be mafia with constantly being on the defensive. She posts a list with absolutely no qualifications just to get a list out there and draw attention away from herself. When questioned on the list she didn't comment but added posts about how she wasn't on the defensive but later states that she has been put on the defensive.. Again high on my list to watch.
No I think my second game there were 3 newbies as well (I think).. While I have learned in this game Bob tweaks the playing I don't think that he would purposely hog tie a mafia team with all newbies but one.. That really would mean a townie victory don't you think? As I have said in a previous game I used to DM and that type of tactic wouldn't be a fun idea as far as gaming goes.. Placing 1 newbie into each group would make more sense simply because it would even things out and make it more difficult to find out who is who but not make one team weakened by the process of having two many new people. While you can mentor new people lets face it, it takes almost a whole game for a new person to get their legs unless they have done a ton of previous game reading. In the long run I think Bob would set it up for our entertainment don't you think?
Well I need to get to work.. Have a great day everyone.. I'm hoping that I will be back in time to see the day change but again my job stop times are questionable at best. It is totally dependent on how the service goes.. Hope to be on-line tonight.
Alright, so charlie is the only person I have any clear feeling of voting toward, so here we go...
I vote to lynch CS.
I vote to lynch CS.
I still think it would be funny. Most players give newbies time to play without coming down on them too hard to give them a chance to learn the game and get to play. Plus in every game I've been in, newbies have all been townies. So yes, I do think that would be entertaining, especially if they won hehe. I'm not saying I truly believe this is the case in this game. I just think it would be funny.
I really don't know what criteria, if roles were handpicked, that RB might have used. It could be those who played during first 7 games qualify as old school and the last 7 games as new school. Or it could be the total number of games played regardless of when. Or it could be just Dons handpicked while rest are random. Or some other criteria. Heck it could even be reversed and old school = newer players while new mafia = older players. Or it could be 100% random. Rb is good at being sadistic and twisted and providing us with an exciting framework for a game no matter what lol.
Well, there is the old Ice, I've grown to know very well...you were worrying me there Ice. Last night that is all I thought about was how you weren't out accusing everyone for every little thing blowing small things into large and throwing out like 10 different names on the first day voting on 4-5 different ppl. Glad to see you back to your old self. Although it may be against me, I would expect nothing different. I knew that post would draw you out.
As far a DC "explaining" what I meant, I can't speak for him...but maybe he wasn't seeing me as mafia didn't want ppl to build a case around something you took and made it look like I was contradicting myself.
So do you think JM was "protecting" John when she felt compelled to explain for him??
I'm glad your 14yr old was able to figure that out, yes I figured that was what he meant but sorry in this game EVERY thing that is said is looked at..I wanted to make sure when someone did decide to make a case, they couldn't say well look even John thought it was odd "they" didn't post earlier. You know as well as me some ppl do not look past a post they think may prove their case. I wanted to make sure it was out there exactly WHO he meant. Still not completely conveinced that it wasn't a "confusion" tactic, but he is lower on my radar at this point.
//Game Off//Why are Lady G and sometimes Blue going after JM so much? A little partnership here, perhaps?
GAME OFF
Also, although I posted yesterday, I was only home in the morning then back at 12. When I left that morning, my 15 year old cat Cinder was run over... He died in my arms when we arrived at the vet :cry:. If anyone is "suspicious" enough to ask for proof or call me a lier, I can give you a pic of him. I only really got to post after I got home, mostly at 2, after I was done burying my cat (Took 2 hours because I dug up my dog's grave twice, he was big :uhoh.
GAME ON
EDIT: Forgot to say good morning all
DP, I am sorry to hear about your cat, that is very sad!
//Game On//
I can't speak for Blue, just like I can't speak for DC or anyone else but myself in this game. But I can try to assure you I am not "partners" with anyone, since I have no idea at this point who is innocent or Mafia, just feelings right now.
The reason I am on Jmax though is because I feel she is Mafia, Plain and simple...so are you trying to protect her?
Well, Blue I have never played with you, but yes I get accused of being "out there" all the time, and "confusing" really it is not intended that way..I'm really bad at just saying what I think when I think it...sometimes it seems odd to others.
If you have any questions about anything I post, just ask me I will do my best to clarify for you. Every time a game starts I think I am going to take it slow not post alot, and see what happens...but then the "mafia radar" takes over and before I know it BAM everyone thinks I am guilty.:headshake2:
Charlie, how can you not think this makes you look more "scummy" then anything else?
Now I AM worried about you, first it was just the fact you voted Blue for no real reason, then you RP more than "kick in doors", now this...WOW that's all I can say is WOW!
NO, IF you are a innocent I do NOT think it is a good idea...if Mafia Heck yeah go ahead take your UD!
You see I can see this as a Mafia tactic, get the town off you and on to a innocent, then last minute come in and vote for that innocent...yes you would be taken out the next day but still you would of helped to lynch a townie. Now I have to go back and see who is leading in votes behind you, maybe that will help "clear" them in a way with me for now.
Except for last game Swayde...Bluerat ended up being evil.
