Mafia #14 -- The Play

Now to answer the rest of your question.. - I really could care less what blue does to tell you honestly.. If you look at my postings she was on my mafia list and still is.. You however have sailed into the lead.. She will have her time under the spotlight but you need to go first.

Because I am a threat to you and your team!
 
Well I have to run.. I need to finish the fiber I'm working on so I can be back here this evening.

But you know LadyG I think you safe today anyway simply because everyone is singling out on DJ who is probably Mafia.. I just don't want any of them to forget about you.. You can bet the first post I make on day 3 is going to be my vote to lynch you. I just find it curious that if you are such a concerned townie why aren't you digging up the dirt?

And you still have yet to answer my questions.. Your doing the same thing you did yesterday.. People calling you to the carpet but you deflect or try and make them look guilty.. Or they end up on "your list" You are so transparent your cellophane.
For one, I have dug up dirt that is why you and your "friends" are all over me. I would expect a vote from you...but I doubt you have to worry about it unless your team doesn't get the "hit" tonight.
 
LG how can you say HN wasn't on JM? Here are his posts directed at her.

Ice, I'm not denying he talked about Jmax...BUT she is NOT the only other one he made reference to, on more than 1 or 2 posts. For CL to make that post trying to bring out ones that HN was looking into or accusing and not add BLue just didn't sit well with me.
 
Hold on a sec, when did I push for the detective coming out? I would never do that.

I was under the impression that the Dons would show as innocent again and the reason JMax was pushing to be investigated was because she was a don.

It is definitely in our best interest to keep the detective hidden for as long as possible. We don't know how many mafia are out there, so even if the detective has three or four names, he probably shouldn't come out.
I just wanted to mention, I did not see any case that Ogre tried to get the detective to come out either...yes you said "please tell me he's not the detective" but I and I'm sure others took that more of a "joke" post.
DD, again trying to make something out of nothing.
 
MY VOTE FOR LADY G.
newbia mistake

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Yep, another mafia coming out against me...does this tell anyone anything?
 
Game Off/
*hugs* hang in there Jules, my best wishes for his system to catch on to the healthy bug-free zone soon.
Game on/

Is it just me who finds it weird that Ogre is kinda pushing for the detective to come out, whether or not is is Judge, Dj, whomever, to me, it seems he is being quite aggressive. If a townie, I think it would be in the best judgement for the town to keep the detective hidden, especially with the odds against us now.
While I do agree that Dj, even being new, still reeks of Mafia, eh, I'm kinda not feeling comfortable about Ogre now. I will be voting for DJ at this time but that is subject to change upon further discussions.
G, still have different feelings because of the different way you seem to argue with different people but I can't get a read of if it is in Mafia sense or in a rp sense.
Blue, blue is sharp. One to watch because I do not know her gaming style but I do know she has the knack for the game.
Anyone else, I do not have a read from yet, or not a strong enough one to mention at this time.

I vote to lynch DJ

DD, I read the same post and have to say I don't see how you came to that conclusion.

Ice, you do realize this sounds kind of funny? 'Everyone not responsible for lynching Chas, defend yourselves....' But as I can see where you're going with it, I'll explain.

On Day 1, I was the first to question Judge's early vote on blueiz. Early random votes on Day 1 don't bother me, as they frequently lead to discussion. While Judge's vote for blue wasn't entirely random, it didn't bother me all that much. It was a little strange, but, whatever. The main reason that I questioned her vote was to get a reaction. As I mentioned in another post, I noticed when Judge plays scum and gets a little pressure on her, she uses 'LMAO' a lot. If you don't believe it, refer to the past games....you'll see. Her first post, she started out w/ LMAO....I figure I'd pressure her a little and see what happened. Unfortunately, LG had also apparently noticed Judge's scumtell in previous games, and blurted it out early on Day 1...so that kind of put an end to my plan.

At any rate, I noticed when I posted, that Chas had just posted that he was also suspicious of blue, so I asked him if they (he and judge) were teammates.... well, it was off to the races at that point. Everyone started jumping into the pool (whether they ended up voting him or not) accusing Chas....but seriously, what was so odd about Charlie saying that rb may have tweaked the assignments and given blue a mafia role?

I try not to guess how the game mod may have assigned the roles, but others do...Charlie was not alone in doing so. Lots of other folks were in semi-agreement that role assigment may have been tweaked. So this didn't make Charlie seem any more scummy to me than anyone else.

After everyone started mentioning Charlie's name, he got spooked and brought up his untimely death plan. While I disagreed with his plan, it didn't necessarily seem like a mafia move to me.... the plan wasn't good for the town, as if Chas was innocent and died an untimely death there was no guarantee that we'd lynch a mafium that night anyway. Ultimately we could have lost 3 townies that night. But, I understood where Chas was coming from....he knew that he was innocent, so he promised to kill himself in order to free up the townies to look elsewhere for the real mafia. Once again, I don't agree with his plan, but I understood it.

Now folks were saying that his plan was anti-town, and in a big-picture sense, it was, because we could have lost 3 townies in one night. But it wasn't malicious anti-town. Had Chas been mafia and agreed to kill himself to avoid a lynch, he would have HAD TO FOLLOW THROUGH, otherwise he would have been lynched the very next day....NO QUESTION ABOUT IT. This might make sense for the mafia to do if they only needed one more day for a win, but it was Day 1. This made no sense as a mafia plan. Chas didn't seem any more guilty to me than anyone else.

As to your earlier question as to why I didn't try harder to 'save' him, I basically start everyone in the game at 'neutral.' Based on posts, people then move up the scale toward townie, or down toward mafia. While Charlie never moved down on my scale toward mafia, he never moved up toward townie either....he was still at neutral. So Chas didn't seem innocent to me, he just seemed neutral/not guilty. He still COULD be mafia as far as far as I knew. The thing that seemed really odd though is that the train on Charlie was one of the biggest I've seen (not just votes, but in accusations as well). I would have been a little surprised had Chas ended up mafia upon lynching....not shocked, though.

Glad you went into such deep detail, I can definitely see your point.

Ice, I'm not denying he talked about Jmax...BUT she is NOT the only other one he made reference to, on more than 1 or 2 posts. For CL to make that post trying to bring out ones that HN was looking into or accusing and not add BLue just didn't sit well with me.

Sorry I guess I took the bolded part of your next post shown wrong.

What I would like to know CL...is where did you get he was going after Judge? The only other person I saw when I went back was Blue? Yes, he made reference to a couple others and then Dj at the end....but Blue is the only other I saw him to really question a few times.
So....are you trying to take attention away from Blue, with leaving her out of this post and then coming after me for voting her?

This section to me meant that he wasn't after JM when in fact on Day 1 it was all about JM. Then Charlie and Blue entered the mix on Day 2. You and I quote say when I went back the only other person was Blue. Did you forget to look at Day 1? I might have my teams wrong and I might have a few players wrong. But I think I got you JM and DJ correct.
 
Old school
Orge
CL
Jensons
Swayde/Ice

New school
DD
Blue
DC/JL
DJ

Orge-Nothing big stands out to me...but I was saying how I could see Rb making the teams..and he seems to me a good choice for Old School.

CL-I find his post very Mafia"ish" as I am bringing out.

Jensons-Very quiet, doesn't add anything to the game really. I believe her to be a quiet mafia trying to stay low.

Swayde-Is really not playing like herself, not making many cases and also staying low.

Ice-Really I go back and forth on him. His change in style has bothered me some..but I understand why he has changed his style and what he post seems helpful, but he knows how to "seem" helpful. I really just added him as a MAYBE.

DD-Very low key, Very quiet..only comes out to try and throw accusations on small things trying to make them look like big deals.

Blue-Really isn't contributing anything either, has the same list and just makes references to it when asked about her feelings on ppl. When she post to "accuse" someone elses post instead of actually adding the entire quote will copy/paste just parts to try and make her point, so the meaning will look different then what it really was in the original post, and unless someone wants to go threw 100 post to find the original they wont know what it was.

DC-Yes he is always a low poster, but usually comes out at some point. This game he seems to remain low and not add much as far as his own thoughts.

JL-Really not much to stand out, but COULD replace DC.

DJ-obvious reasons
 
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Yep, another mafia coming out against me...does this tell anyone anything?

All that tells me is you guys are either on opposite teams or that DJ has so many votes on him that a vote onto you is for distancing. He shows mafia and when he does you can say see a mafia wouldn't vote for a mafia. But I bet if a few people jumped off DJ onto you and made it closer DJ would be forced to jump off onto someone else to save you. Your team would rather lose a newb then an experienced player.
 
DD, I read the same post and have to say I don't see how you came to that conclusion.



Glad you went into such deep detail, I can definitely see your point.



Sorry I guess I took the bolded part of your next post shown wrong.



This section to me meant that he wasn't after JM when in fact on Day 1 it was all about JM. Then Charlie and Blue entered the mix on Day 2. You and I quote say when I went back the only other person was Blue. Did you forget to look at Day 1? I might have my teams wrong and I might have a few players wrong. But I think I got you JM and DJ correct.

Opps, my bad is all I can say Ice. At the time I knew he had said things about Blue that is one reason I stayed on her. Yes, JM does seem mafia to me also. But at this point I find Blue/DD alot more concerning.
 
On nightfall days I have to put in a vote early since I work from 10AM or Noon until about 9:30PM without access to a computer. This also means I'll sometimes go with a majority vote instead of wasting a vote on someone I don't feel overly certain about. I don't get to see the developments that happen during the day. My quick vote on DJ mostly goes with a reaction to his posts. A newbie using the words "hit" and "people are bugging me to make a choice" scream of mafia to me. In this case I'm not kicking a weasel, I feel more like we're bagging a weasel that popped out of its hole a tad too long. Maybe it's a ploy by one of the mafium to sacrifice in order to save a bigger fish, but I'll take getting one over what happened last night. I do have a laid back style of play, but I can't really help it, I'm a pretty laid back person.

So far my suspicions fall on:
DJ
Jensons
Mad
Cool
CL

I have to go to work now, but I can list reasons why later.


Still waiting to hear an explanation on your suspects. I know you were on this morning, I saw you reading the thread.
 
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