Mafia #15....The Play....

[ZSandmann]

I'm not trying too hard to do anything to you plant. Why the vigor? No one is even listening to me right now. As I said, I am voting for brains today unless something better comes along, but I feel that is a strong vote and I am happy with it.

 

[charlie_stubbs]

This mornings nightmare almost forgotten, Charlie headed to ACville Elementary School, where Brandy Jensons, an odd but kindly teacher asked him to speak to the students. Even in these troubled times, the thrill and excitement on the childrens faces when he talked about potatoes always made him smile. Charlie always started his seminar with the same joke.
"Good morning children, before we get started has anyone lost a roll of $20's wrapped in an elastic??? Because i found the elastic."
Silence from the children. They never get it.
"Children, did you know french fries, a relative of the potato, were first introduced in the U.S. when Thomas Jefferson served them in the White House during his presidency of 1801-1809????"
Charlie was certain the blank stares on the childrens faces was probably a result of the excitement they were feeling as they imagined the amazing story of the potato. It had to be.

 

[Coler]

slow posting...I have admitted to having the spidey senses tingling about plantling too zs...however this has dampened but perhaps because brains is such a good shout at the moment...in fairness HN made this point early in the day that just because we have a good nomination there is no reason not to be looking for other/the next suspects.

 

[Lady G]

you know, as I read through, I am really tempted to vote for either JL, dd, OR lady G, Those are my top three, JL fooled me quite badly last game, then comes out RPing, which is a huge change?..(very funny, however, very troublesome)
I think you are always "ready" to vote me :, I think if you didn't say this I would be very worried about you!!

DD has been off this game, and by off I mean, back to her normal self, which by normal, I mean every time she is mafia normal, And Lady G, Although, I agree with some of your posts, and points, you seem to really be digging, you actually have to be really excited this game, because you accuse DD of voting for brains three times, when 1 was actually an un-vote, and the others we either originally placing, or replacing. not like you to make such a silly mistake, but you even emphasized it there...I am surprised I am the only one who caught that though?
You are right here about many things, yes DD is acting mafia and anyone who is defending her and saying she is not is moved up in my mind, she is always suspesious it's and for anyone to say shes not, I'm sorry it say's alot to me.
Yes, I am digging on day one you pretty much have to dig except for those who come out so obvious as Ogre did.
I do realize my mistake on DDs votes, and for that I am sorry to everyone...yes I'm sure I look bad, but well everyone always thinks I look bad so really that says nothing to me...except I'm playing like I always do.

and This has been driving me nuts for several games, what is an OMGUS vote?...

LOL, sorry but I have to laugh at you here, you've held this in and I'm sure it was driving you nuts trying to figure it out!

 

[Lady G]

I agree w/JL and LG being Mafia suspects, but DD usually hides and only comes out to defend while she's Mafia.

I did catch that LG mistake where she said DD voted for Brains a 2nd time when in fact she was unvoting him. It seems LG is flustered. Could it be that she doesn't want to lose Brains, a team member?

Oh, LOL, OMGUS stands for Oh My God, U Suck. It's sometimes associated with when someone votes you and you vote them back, an OMGUS vote.

Really Plant, I don't see how you can say she doesn't seem mafia at all to you, that surprises me, but I guess everyone sees things differently.

JL well his change in style is surely alarming and raises alot of questions for me, he always votes me so that has nothing to do with my feelings, but he isn't posting much except RP, and although I really enjoy his Rbing and would love for him to continue and keep it up in future games it is unsettling as well...sooo un John like.
As far as me, well like I've said before this is said every game so no real concern at this point.

 

[IceH2O]

LG

It looks to me that because DD has fooled you many times you want her gone one way or the other.

I don't see anything on DD that looks suspicious and believe me she is one I try to find things on.

You on the other hand have gone overboard. You pulled every post and then half of your evidence is based on the untrue thought of her voting. The mentoring of charlie also made me laugh.

Then that it was so hard for you to wrap your mind around the Brains post when everyone else got it was also pretty strange to me. Where you hoping that by asking for multiple explanations that the story would change and you'd have something to hold over my head?



As for JL, he is also moving up my list. Lots of good RP but no real input. I can understand the gut feeling in LG but is this distancing? What really gets me is that he sees not mafiaism on Brains part.

JL, How about the part where he keeps implying I'm lying about the post?

CCM are you going to post again? I've seen you a few times last night and you didn't post. You never told me how you chose my name randomly. Is your next vote also going to be random or do you have some suspects? Mine sharing them with us? Or if you think anyone is innocent you want to tell us that instead?

 

[Lady G]

Again, a break up of G's first post

I think it was established what exactly the line up was here, G. I will admit that I didn't have the weezer brains thing exact but it's not really important this game. What is important or was, was that brains is not simply "brains" but suspected as Weezer, is denying it although it is plain to see and is reeking of mafia due to the continued denials of being Weezer.
It was important enough for you to say you remember brains being Weezer that game kinda "correcting" the statement it was MM at the time.
Also it had been established that Weezer/Brains was to remain unknown, so how is that so important. What I would say is important about this turn in events was the fact Brains tried to make Ice look guilty by saying what he said THAT was important, but the fact Brains is Weezer is really NOT that important really.


Why would this stand out about me?

I don;t get the point. So agreeing and voting are something to suspect from people?? I wasn't the first to vote, why single me out??
Not in itself no, it is not a reason but when there seems to be a pattern along with it..which I believe there is, yes it can be suspecious. No you weren't the first nor the last to vote, I singled you out because you look most mafia to me along with JL. I would say besides Brains, you and JL stand out more then most.

Ummm..... voted twice for brains, G? I voted for brains on the first night, then unvoted him and voted Ogre. After nght, I voted for brains which I said was subject to change. Why is that so odd? Did I just catch you fumble?
Yeah, I misread that, and I have apologized in another post for that, I am use to seeing I retract not I unvote and I misread that yes.


G, this is ridiculous. I'd love to see where you even see this. I use these phrases regularly when working with the town.
Not really you use them more as mafia, you are just a bit more smug in your posting style that is all.


G, something you think might be obvious might be missed and important to the next townie. Why wold you even hint and keeping things to oneself if it is obvious to you?

The post just seemed odd to me that is all, you don't usually make post so obvious that I remember.

Are you serious, G.... I asked why BEFORE brains had said he was to remain anonymous and so what he said it anyhow.... How are we supposed to know if he is telling the truth with that in the first place? There is nothing in the rules of the original post by rb on this character so why the mystery..... unless you already know.
Ummm, no DD I am sure it was after why else would you word it "why are you suppose to remain anonymous"?


I was asking HN a question because it stuck out to me.... I could also ask you why the focus on me....
Well you didn't say it just once DD, the focus on you is because you seem mafia to me...DUH.

jumps all over you, pipe down, G... no one was jumping all over you. I was only explaining the facts to help out. If you got all offended and felt I was attacking you, that's your own issue.

There were no facts in that DD, just...yes, jumping on me.
I don't jump all over anyone trying to get others to join in. Sorry, it's just not me.
Umm, yeah you do I can't count how many times you have done this and if someone else does join in you are all over it.

The classic "weak" reasoning. G, if anyone is trying to get everyone to go anywhere, it's you.

Well, your kinda right here, yes I want others to see what I see...it's kinda the point of putting your thoughts out there isn't it, but really I was more putting it out there and asking others their opinions to see if MAYBE I was over reacting like I do admit I do sometimes.

I voted for just once, dear..... by all means show me where I voted twice.

I feel like you boiled yourself for this one.
I'm sure you do DD

I know I suspect you now, and not just for revenge voting..... but for trying too hard to single people out for nonsense.
I fully expected that, just as I expected other mafia to say or feel the same.

I commented on CC because his vote had no explanation and seemed quite silly if you ask me. And then his explanation was even more ridculous.

ok, so I reminded him his vote needed to bold the switch. Actually, it wasn't that which I pointed out to Charlie, it was that he should UNVOTE Ice if he wanted to vote CC. For someone who claims she's got her facts together, G... you sure are slipping up.

Mentoring Charlie? where do you see that??

ok, now why do I need to mention everyone's votes?

I asked Judge because her vote didn't seem to have a reason.... I was asking for clarification. I wasn't "defending" JL.
She did have a reason, because he was RPing something he hardly ever does, there were plenty of votes that actually had no reason what so ever, that was my point why single her out of all the other votes that were made with no reason?

I question things as they stick out to me, G.... I asked for her for a reason. JL's didn't stand out to me as Judges had. Early on, votes will be as they are, people change their votes, everything. BUT when something sticks out, I have found that as a townie, any question is a good question and can bring out the mafia in people..... I guess as it is doing to you.
I don't see how his didn't stand out but hers did, he had NO REASON with it as you say Jmax did but you picked her to call out? Makes not since to me.

what??

I'm not going to go into a back and forth thing with you, but I thought I'd comment on a few things you brought up.
I would have to say as of this point, Brains, DD and JL stand out as my top three.

 

[Lady G]

LG

It looks to me that because DD has fooled you many times you want her gone one way or the other.
No, Ice not really...she hasn't so much fooled me in other games, most I knew she was mafia but no one else saw it and I was hit/lynched before it could be proven. If she is a townie, no I want her with us because she is good for the town when she is good.

I don't see anything on DD that looks suspicious and believe me she is one I try to find things on.
You really find nothing I have said to be suspicious? Yes, I realize she didn't vote Brains twice as I thought which I explained twice now...but really you see nothing?? I don't know if this should make me worry about you, or make me realize maybe I did over react as you are one I was leaning more innocent at this point, b/c I believe your posts have helped and you are not just trying to "seem" helpful. I guess I will have to sit back and think on this a while more.

You on the other hand have gone overboard. You pulled every post and then half of your evidence is based on the untrue thought of her voting. The mentoring of charlie also made me laugh.
I wasn't wrong on half Ice, I was wrong about her votes, and one post of wording that is it, not half.

Then that it was so hard for you to wrap your mind around the Brains post when everyone else got it was also pretty strange to me. Where you hoping that by asking for multiple explanations that the story would change and you'd have something to hold over my head?
Yes, I had a hard time figuring out that post, as I said it started with something about plastic plants, which I didn't get. I didn't think you made anything up and no I wasn't hoping to change the story, I just wanted to realize for sure what it meant, that was all..that is why I asked.



As for JL, he is also moving up my list. Lots of good RP but no real input. I can understand the gut feeling in LG but is this distancing? What really gets me is that he sees not mafiaism on Brains part.
No, it's not distancing Ice far from it he seems mafia to me, as does DD and Brains.

JL, How about the part where he keeps implying I'm lying about the post?

CCM are you going to post again? I've seen you a few times last night and you didn't post. You never told me how you chose my name randomly. Is your next vote also going to be random or do you have some suspects? Mine sharing them with us? Or if you think anyone is innocent you want to tell us that instead?

I hope this help ease your mind some, as I have stated before I am just wanting to look at more than just Brains, I think he is a given but now it seems no one is really posting much about anyone else and I think we should be looking further.

 

[Lady G]

Actually for now, until I have thought some more about things I am going to retract my vote on DD

I'm not saying I changed my mind on her she still seems mafia to me, but others are not seeing it and maybe I am over reacting...I will wait and see what happens. But my vote will fall on either her, JL or brains.

 

[Lady G]

Here is where i stand on Brains2.

If you were told to remain anonymus i can respect that. You must do what you can to remain anonymus. However, at the time RB told you to remain anonymus, he didn't anticipate you would get caught in the manner you did.

If it is against the rules to admit the obvious truth that is one thing. However, to cast doubts and implicate the one who made the discovery is shady to say the least. At this point, your only alternative would be to pm RB and ask for permission to reveal the truth. Implicating Ice in an effort to cover your mistake does not help the town. If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem.

I know I wish Rb would just say...yes he is Weezer and this is why I told him to remain anonymous or whatever, it is out that he is Weezer and it would be nice just to get that out there.