Mafia #15....The Play....

[KingOfTheDeep]

Here is my whole list...

Blu- never played with her- leaning Innocent
DD- she is always a hard one to read (except for when I was Vig. and I went with my gut, sorry about that one DD)- leaning Innocent
JM- she is less vocal for when she was Mafia, she was all out posting- leaning Innocent
HN- he plays as an Innocent (but who can ever tell with him, he has become very good at these games)
Ice- Innocent (he was dead on about Brains and Ogre also)
JL- can never tell with him
Ogre-PROVEN MAFIA
CS- he is the definite Weasel Kicker-leaning Innocent
Z- leaning Innocent, he plays as he usually does, when not busyKing-already stated- leaning Mafia
BKW- not sure
Brains2-PROVEN MAFIA
Jo- kind of following others-maybe Mafia
CCM-already stated reasons-Mafia
Coler-already stated- Mafia
Plant- she is a hard one to read also-leaning Innocent

The 5 in purple are the ones who I think are definitely Mafia and the 3 in red are iffy....

in red...again..coming to z's rescue..MM..you are so bad at being bad it's almost painful to watch

in black..once again..someone who i have pegged as mafia..pegging me as mafia

someone has GOT to be seeing what i am seeing..come on guys

 

[Lady G]

As far as DD, and Ice...you know it really wont matter what I say from this point on you are most likely going to read it the wrong way and take it as "defending" instead of explaining. It happens to me every game when I'm innocent or not...once you decide I'm bad rather I am or not no matter what I say to try and clear it up you take it wrong and the lynch goes on and you end up lynching a innocent.

It cracks me up really every game it's the same. I post my thoughts, then someone says G seems to be off and all over the place....then, well she does this all the time...then it keeps going and I'm lynched, just part of the game (more times I'm innocent then not) and the way it goes I guess, but funny none the less.

Now for my thoughts on those I find lynchable.

CCM is most likely unless something huge comes up where my vote is going to end up. His post consist of nothing and when he does post it just makes no sense at all.

BKW my "interaction" with him yesterday sealed the deal for me, I wasn't really sure until then but I believe him to be mafia.

JL- Yep, all the role play (as good as it is, and as much as I enjoy it) drew my attention to him, his post have mainly been roleplay not much digging.

Blue-Really not contributing much just a check in post here and there never really saying much.

Coler-After Plants post about him, I have to say I see mafia there too.

These are in no particular order except CCM is my highest at this point, but I would be willing to put my vote on any of these.

 

[KingOfTheDeep]

Yes, I was being sarcastic. For I have had time in the past for the games. And when work DOES call I will go. We are very short handed right now. And are very busy.



Here is my list...
CCM-reasons already stated...
King- seemed to have defended Brains/Weezer in the beginning, and it turned out that Brains was in fact Mafia...distancing maybe...
Coler- he said that the Brains/Weezer mix up was really really not a big deal and said that Ice had taken it too far (not his exact wording)

Mee-mee..PLEASE..i beg of you..show me where i defended brains

 

[Lady G]

You know what I have to correct myself on yet another thing, when I was talking about the innocents that were "lynched" last game I had my newbs mixed up it wasn't cooldude that I was talking about it was DJmajors.
I knew he had been lynched and went back to the game to look for it, that is when I noticed that it was actually DJ that we all thought was mafia and was innocent. He was lynched and the whole town thought him to be mafia.

Ok, Ice tear into me for it now.:headshake2:

 

[IceH2O]

Holy crap it's a novel in here today. Really good info though. I still have LG and BKW on a see-saw, I am sure one is Mafia of the two, I guess they could both be with the way the game is set up but I don't think they would continue to go at one another if that were the case. I can see the case made for both, and will have to try and determine which I believe is more likely Mafia.

Well we got our daily one off post from CCM, another empty post, no insight, no list, nothing.


That makes no sense King. Yes there had to be Mafia votes on Brains but to say "most"? Why would Mafia put a majority on another Mafia? Then you say "We" are on a roll, I assume you mean the Town here. You can't have it both ways, if the Mafia is voting other Mafia to blend in then how can the Town be on a roll? I would think people not on Brains would be more suspicous to you. Also, MM and CCM are two of my strong suspects, how can I be on a team with them? If I were Mafia would I drag them through the dirt?

CCM: We need information from you if you want to continue in the game, these pop-in posts don't add anything. Are you Innocent or have you accepted your fate?

If they aren't on the same team they very much could go after one another. 2 players chasing one another doesn't mean anything to me in this setup.

I believe CCM is mafia that can't communicate. No one to lead him around so its better to stay out of the limelight and let us take down the bigger names.

I have to agree with Z to an extent.

I don't think it was mostly mafia, that just doesn't make any sense. But I do believe there were 5 mafia sitting on Brains lynch train. I believe 2 of them are mafia communicators that chalked Brains up as a lost cause.

I don't think they could have jumped to an innocent and had them lynched though. It would be to telling on their part.

makes sense to me..but maybe thats because im innocent, and your mafia.

if you don't think most of the votes on brains were mafia, then you just raised your suspicion level IMO. the mafia will always vote for the player with the majority of votes..its called DISTANCING..doesn't matter if they are voting for their own..when i was mafia in past games, we voted for our own in hopes of using them as a scapegoat, especially when we were feeling desperate.

this town IS on a role, 2 mafia in the first and second nights..if we get another tonight..it'd be a record.

as for your suspicions on ccm and mee mee..do you really think saying this makes you look innocent?..just the fact that you brought it up makes you look suspicious...there have been many mafia players to name a player or two on their own team..again..to distance themselves.

you may not even be on the same team as them..there are no guarantees that either is mafia..i happen to think CCM is just lazy and didn't want to play in the first place..i'd probably vote for him though..but perhaps you just implicated them.

nice job at trying to twist things up..but its not going to work.

That part of the post really worries me KOTD

Below are posts made by brains before the nightfall when he was lynched.




Just thought I'd bring this up again. Brain's suspect list only included the names he bolded. I asked Brains what he thought of coler and zsand as they also voted for him, but he never did respond. Now IF Wheezer is Brains, and I really think so, these posts suggests to me that Coler is indeed Mafia and on Brains Mafia team, which I now believe is the team that can communicate. When I played New Mafia w/Mystery Player, aka Wheezer, his list of suspects tended to be pple who voted for him or put him on their suspect lists. He also tended to come to my defense as well as DC's, which was sweet and well intentioned but wasn't helping any of us look any more innocent.:grinno:

I think old habits die hard, so I'm now convinced Coler is Mafia. If this were the only reason, I would prolly overlook it but I have posted other reasons why I think Coler is Mafia. Therefore, I vote to lynch Coler.


My list: (And I'm willing to vote for any one of these)
Coler -per this and previous posts
CCMan- per the case I made at the start of day 2
Lady G- Her confusion about Ice's post then sudden enlightenment did remind me of Ogre's reaction to the same post a day earlier. It seems she was trying to distract from the issue of Brains. I strongly feel she is connected to Brains and Coler. They've got each other on their lists, but Coler hasn't gone into any depth on Lady and Lady's description of Coler is quite tame.

I'm still uneasy about Z and realize Brains/Wheezer did not list him as a suspect either, but am willing to just put Z on a watch list for now.

Plantling I was thinking about this all day long. I believe that LG Coler Brains 2 and MeeMee are the communicating mafia. LG and Coler tried to hard on the 1st day to negate the post as much of nothing. I'm not as sure about MM and would be willing to add KOTD to her spot as he also was trying to play the post off as nothing.

Is there a brains2 - weezer - mee-mee connection???

I think its possible but with KOTDs post today I'm not so sure.

just a catch up before I leave work - I will try and be on later.

I noticed plantlings vote for me - Plantling remains on my list. I do not accept that anyone without a mafia agenda could put together a fair case against me - I let my posts speak for themselves entirely. The suggestion that I was in contact with a brains mafia team is nonsense.

However, I vote for lady g. I could also be talked into voting for judgemax of the others on my list and this is because of the reaction to my to and fro with her yesterday. I have less conviction about JL and, actually plantling.

Person not on my list previously who makes it now is captain caveman - I read him as a mafia who has given up.

So plantling is mafia because only mafia would put together such a post but you suspect her less? HUH! Colers cracking under the pressure me thinks. His team is being dismantles before his eyes, not that it was much of a team IMO.

Here is my whole list...

Blu- never played with her- leaning Innocent
DD- she is always a hard one to read (except for when I was Vig. and I went with my gut, sorry about that one DD)- leaning Innocent
JM- she is less vocal for when she was Mafia, she was all out posting- leaning Innocent
HN- he plays as an Innocent (but who can ever tell with him, he has become very good at these games)
Ice- Innocent (he was dead on about Brains and Ogre also)
JL- can never tell with him
Ogre-PROVEN MAFIA
CS- he is the definite Weasel Kicker-leaning Innocent
Z- leaning Innocent, he plays as he usually does, when not busy
King-already stated- leaning Mafia
BKW- not sure
Brains2-PROVEN MAFIA
Jo- kind of following others-maybe Mafia
CCM-already stated reasons-Mafia
Coler-already stated- Mafia
Plant- she is a hard one to read also-leaning Innocent

The 5 in purple are the ones who I think are definitely Mafia and the 3 in red are iffy....

Leaning innocent? Charlie? The guy that was hit last night? How do you skim over the HIT! I guess if you already knew it wouldn't matter and could slip your mind.

Sounds like he thinks plantling may be Mafia but less so than JM

Umm he said JL not JM. Actually I didn't see that myself Z, I see him saying Plantling is mafia because of her agenda and then I see him saying she isn't as high as some on his list. But if she is the one posting on him how is she not his top suspect if he thinks she is mafia.

Who was brains2 before? Besides the person who had the name before, who has the password?

Weezer has posted that he isn't playing, even though Ice posted that he was in fact posting as brains2.



This is the only post that I can see were brains2 gave us any personal insight.

I wish rbishop would just tell us who brains2 was, but that would be too easy.

So mee-mee are you going to school p/t have any kids?

My guess is no and that I am barking up the wrong tree.

I believe that entire post was BS to try and throw us off that it was Weezer.

Yep, on my list I did say even though Charlie thinks I implicated him..b/c he did, but I wasn't.

I wasn't implicating Charlie in any of that, I suppose I can see why someone would think that but I wasn't it was all to prove a point about DD at that time, Point being she made no comment about anyone else's votes at that time, it was more her trying to tie herself to him (I felt at the time), then him connected to her. As I said IF I was implicating Charlie I would of added him to my names at the top of the post as one I thought Mafia. You are making it out to be the opposite of what I was doing.

I'm making it out to what it looks to be. I think you guys hit Charlie because you thought him and DD are part of the communicating innocents.

Mee-mee..PLEASE..i beg of you..show me where i defended brains

KOTD, do you really want me to pull those posts? I can't count how many times you said you felt no mafia vibe from Brains.

 

[Hooked Newbie]

brains = mafia = gee I nearly fell off my chair with surprise.

to HN/Ice - the post you question was made with 12 hours left in the game day I think. So you were all in work ? I don't know where you live or work. Being the only player in GMT I just don't worry about that. Plus, you'll have as many people with net access in work as won't.

Say what you like, I know I'm not a mafia and I've been on brains since the get go, following my conclusion (in my own head, which is where I like my conclusions to come from) that the brains/weezer thing was a mafia tell and not capable of an innocent explanation.

I guess you're pretty relieved to still be alive HN - not that I have thought of you as mafia compared to others up to now. You still don't make my list which is as already posted.

Yes 8 - 5 EST M-f and on call 24x7. During the days, I cannot access the site, it's marked as hobby related and banned by our IT department. Why wouldn't you worry about that? If a majority of the mafia had access during the day, they could have swung the vote off of Brains quite easily.

I am glad to be alive. Was I discussed as a candidate for your team's hit?

 

[IceH2O]

You know what I have to correct myself on yet another thing, when I was talking about the innocents that were "lynched" last game I had my newbs mixed up it wasn't cooldude that I was talking about it was DJmajors.
I knew he had been lynched and went back to the game to look for it, that is when I noticed that it was actually DJ that we all thought was mafia and was innocent. He was lynched and the whole town thought him to be mafia.

Ok, Ice tear into me for it now.:headshake2:

I'm glad to see you have the time to research other games when you should be researching this game to see if you can figure out who is mafia with you. You wouldn't want to accidentally lynch them or hit them with your Day 4 hit would you?

 

[Lady G]

I'm glad to see you have the time to research other games when you should be researching this game to see if you can figure out who is mafia with you. You wouldn't want to accidentally lynch them or hit them with your Day 4 hit would you?

You know Ice if I was "worried" about hitting mafia...do you think I would of lynched 2 of em??

I already know who and why my next vote will land upon, I am waiting to see their next posts to determine which I want to go with, I have looked threw the thread a million times. Yes, I took the time to see what I was being accused of lying about and realized I was wrong about the name, so is that bad...if I was mafia do you really think I would of took that time and worried about it, I sure don't.

Again, you had mentioned that I thought nothing of the post....again you are wrong about me, I NEVER said it was not a big deal in fact I thought it important enough to ask you about it.

 

[ZSandmann]

I noticed plantlings vote for me - Plantling remains on my list. I do not accept that anyone without a mafia agenda could put together a fair case against me - I let my posts speak for themselves entirely. The suggestion that I was in contact with a brains mafia team is nonsense.

However, I vote for lady g. I could also be talked into voting for judgemax of the others on my list and this is because of the reaction to my to and fro with her yesterday. I have less conviction about JL and, actually plantling.

Umm he said JL not JM. Actually I didn't see that myself Z, I see him saying Plantling is mafia because of her agenda and then I see him saying she isn't as high as some on his list. But if she is the one posting on him how is she not his top suspect if he thinks she is mafia.

Here is what I was talking about Ice. He says he thinks JM is more likely Mafia than JL or Plantling although he suspects them both. But overall I agree with the context of your post.

 

[IceH2O]

Excuse me while I dismiss the votes on the known mafia.

They both blew their covers early. It was almost impossible to not vote for them.

I don't care that you voted Ogre, it was a done deal he was going. I don't care you voted for Brains. I won't even point out that it was one of the last votes to go on him.

While I'm on the subject I want to throw the same comments at Coler. Yes you were early onto Brains, but at that point who didn't think he was going to be lynched? Then you were the last vote onto Ogre. Did you think he was going to pull a magic potion out his *** and save himself?

Sorry guys but if it were up to me I'd have one of you lynched and the other one hit.



*** = hat get your vulgar minds washed out.