THE PLAY: Mafia #16 'Till death do we part...

[Lady G]

I forgot to add the part about her not getting the "list" then thanking him for clearing it up, then turning back and saying she still didn't see it?

 

[IceH2O]

Sorry guys but this is going to be a long post. Try to follow along.

I agree, when newbies speak a lot they are mafia....

Why would Jo want the newbs to be quiet? If anything posting a lot will cause them to slip up more. Is his spouse a newb?

good find RB... wouldnt have even thought to look at something like that myself... although she could have just done it randomly as well....who knows, its not enough to go on though im afraid.

Agrees and disagrees in the same post. How can it be a great find if its not worth following up?

48 hour days againnn jeeeshh thats too long!

lol.

I'm going to throw a vote out here, just to get the ball rolling and see what other people are thinking.

I vote to lynch kuhli

seems like a jumpy newb, although im probably wrong.... vote is subject to change (and probably will)

But voting needs to start somewhere...

Why not 48 hours Jo? Afraid with the extra time you'll slip up? I also don't understand the vote on Kuhli, even as a joke to your sarcasm list. Why offer up a newbie? Because he was posting?
I took all his posts as jokes. Did you miss the sarcasm of his posts?

and skim read and miss obvious sarcasm as well HN?

Pushing his vote for DD

Well, I can see your point here Pap, but what I am wondering even more is why DID Jo think Kuhli to be a 1, then vote him?
Since nightfall isn't until tomorrow I am going to retract my vote for Liz, at this time. Liz you are not off the hook, my vote may very well end up back on you...but there is more time then I was thinking and other things have come up.

LG, didn't you get the sarcasm in Jos list either? Isn't that one of the reasons you're voting DD?

retracted vote, even though she retracted a vote on kuhli that she never placed...did no one else find that suspicious!?

Waa?? She never voted for Kuhli?????? No, I haven't been skimming but WOW I did NOT catch that one!

How do you miss a bolded vote/retract?

OMG! DD, ummm can you answer to this??? I mean I realize your in turmoil over your wedding day but you don't remember who you placed a vote on??? Oh girl, how can I not see this as mafia? Is that why Chas didn't show did he find out??

I vote to lynch DD

I agree... she also voted for me for not catching an obvious remark of sarcasm, makes her stick out like a sore thumb to me.

I retract my vote on kuhli and vote to lynch DD

Liz I think you are making a big mistake thinking that everyone who voted for you is innocent. It NEVER works like that. Mafia want to take out anyone who they think might be innocent, which a lot of the times ends up being newbs who "slip." Mafia want to blend in. That is what DD is doing.

DD, I vaguely remember you getting on my back for posting a list early that was a joke and now you are saying that it is acceptable? Am I understanding you correctly?

He chose rb and kuhli because kuhli made a comment about rb beating his movers. Go read the back and forth if you do not belive me (or you were skimming). Jo obviously was being sarcastic about kuhli having a "good find" and that making rb mafia.

where am I saying the list is acceptable?? I voted for you for the list, I also voted for Jo. Where did I say the list was acceptable. I voted for Jo simply for different reasons BECAUSE of the list. No twisting please, Pappy.

My initial feeling was that the post wasn't sarcastic which resulted in my vote.

Jpap posts he thought that DD thought Jos list was acceptable but DD voted for him because of the list. Hows that make any sense?

i will also add that liz might as well be the brains2 of mafia # 16.....

is she screaming mafia to anyone else? Seems like a huge distraction and seems like she is trying the classic of a "confused townie"....

Now that Jo feels like he has DD on the ropes he switches to throwing punches at Liz. I think this is so he can jump trains and still point out that he thought them suspicious.

Haha. DD, you had a lot going on jo?

If you thought he was mafia so much then how did you forget that it was him?

Totally takes a post out of context. He does it a second time before I correct him.

Thanks Ice for pointing that out. I take back all those things I said regarding that comment.

I still stand on the suspicious activity prior to that but I apologize DD for twisting those words

Admits to twisting AFTER being called on it.

Yeah I missed the comma and I admit that now big deal. You seemed to have missed the sarcasm in Jo and Liz's posts so whatever DD.

How do you miss a comma? Skimming? I don't think he missed it. I think he hoped no one went back to look.

not defending pappy here... but i find missing a comma a lot easier than missing the whole entire scheme of a post and feel of a thread.... and pappy didnt go throwing out a vote right after he made a mistake either..

You sure you're not? Also his vote was already on DD he couldn't throw one out on her again but every post since has been about her and trying to get other votes onto her.

DD I am interested in what I have already twisted on you that you haven't said yourself.

Jpap has already admitted to twisting her missing comma post. Did you forget?

I agree that we should pay attention to that as well, but DD did the same thing on a worse scale... at least IMO.

But ok now im really done for the night.

Now he is agreeing with me that Jpap should be watched.

Anyone notice that Jo loves to follow?

Lady G has a way of speaking my mind for me...the comma thing was not what all the to do was over....

Following again?

I just have this question for you DD, in the first post you said you had a Doctors appointment and errands then after you were called out about your retracted vote on someone you didn't vote, you said that you were loaded w/work and trying to be helpful....which one are we suppose to believe, Doctor appointment w/ errands or Loaded w/ work?
See this is just another thing very unlike you...I don't recall you using "excuses" before, or if you have they at least were consistent.

Why would DD post that she was busy at work that morning. She threw out a post that she thought was helpful. She did prewarn she would be busy that afternoon. Once she noticed the messed up retraction she explained why.
I can't say I've seen it done but theres always a 1st.


So guys like I said I'm not voting the top 2 vote getters right now.

These 3 have been the ones pushing the hardest for votes.

LG has been on both players.

I wouldn't doubt that all 3 are mafia and trying to work together.

My vote stays on Jpap. If anyone else can see what I see then join me. If not lynch the innocent players.

 

[joander123]

hey guys, doesnt seem like much has happened in my absence...im happy with either a Liz or a DD vote to be honest, but leaning more towards DD at this point and i will keep my vote there for now...

 

[judgemax]

Update: No votes from JL, paul, DD, and kuhli

 

[judgemax]

night fall in three hours

 

[judgemax]

current vote tally

LIZ(5) RB, Nixon, Blue, DCJ, plant
Jpap(1) Ice
JL (1)HN
DD(5) CL, Jpap, LadyG,Jo, Sploke
Paul(1)Chas

 

[IceH2O]

LG

Sorry but even the best of us have bad days.

I'm supposed to be one of the top players according to you guys. I remember a game where I was innocent and didn't have a vote on a mafia player once.

DD could be burnt out. DD could be having a bad game.

I take a game off every once in a while for this reason.

There are other days to come for DD to be investigated or slip up more. I just don't feel at this moment theres enough to go on.

If she is lynched and found mafia I'll eat crow. Can't be right everytime.

But I'd rather be wrong later and find out she was mafia then lynch an innocent that could help us now and be wrong.

 

[charlie_stubbs]

i wish newbies didn't sign up and then not post. it seems paul will die an UD.

i don't feel Liz or DD are strong suspects, but they both have made what can be considered "suspicious" posts. Of the two, i find Liz more suspicious.

 

[joander123]

Ice, to be honest i have very little to say in response to your attack on me.. I think your over analyzing.


The rb (agreeing and disagreeing) argument.. i thought it was a nice find, but i didnt say it wasnt worth following up, just not at this point as it is to early.

I don't understand how i seem to be following.... seems to me that this whole entire DD thing was started by me, not followed by me.

You also say that now that i have DD on the ropes im switching to attacking Liz... well thats because they are my top 2 suspects tonight and im happy to see a lynch on either... if DD goes tonight then i will vote Liz tomorrow....

about defending jpap.... it seems to me that what he missed was a lot easier to miss than what DD missed... although i do still think that he should be watched.. i've said that since the beginning ice.


but i dont understand how im following? Because i said LG spoke my mind? Well she did... i was about to reply to the thread in almost those exact words....


as too the 48 hours thing.. i just dont like how it takes so long to have a day go by, i like it more when there are fewer people left and there are 24 hour days towards the end of the game

and finally too the newbs not talking thing... when newbies like Liz make a lot of posts like she has.. it just confuses the **** outa everyone and creates a big jumbled mess because they dont know if shes playing the "im confused" card, or if she really is confused.



Well... i guess i lied i did have a little bit to say in response..

 

[jpappy789]

For the moment, my vote is staying on Liz as she seemed to be very very vocal concidering its her first game and i cant help but feel some distraction tatics are being employed here using the "I'm new, i dont understand" thing. Even though i have never played this before, it does strike me as odd.

What also stands out very very much is the way Jpap is gunning for DD. Yes, DD made a mistake, we all do them, but, for something very trivial ( a chuffin comma..sheesh), you seem to be making a huge deal out of it. You really have moved yourself higher up in my radar of scuzzball scuzosa mafiosa simply because you would not let something go. Its like you are clutching at straws to take any heat away from you and make someone else appear to be bad. Hmmm..will ponder this one more.

Rb...

Nice !!!

Rb, what heat was on me? No votes, just DD's accusations against me which I am not really considering at this point because I think she is mafia.

Here Jo states his post about the RB/Kuhli list was sarcastic.


Here DD thanks him for the explanation.


Yet here DD says she still doesn't see Jo's post as sarcastic. I understand missing the sarcasm the first go around, but after Jo explained it, why still question it? Only Jo would know w/certainty what he intended and he had already stated his intention.


Here Jo has to explain again about his sarcastic post.

The argument about the sarcastic post along w/ the forgetting of who she voted for to begin with is what makes DD suspicious to me.


This is why I'm hesitant to take my vote off of Paul. Does he plan to make a last minute show? I suppose if he does, he'll have to answer for it another day. So now I need to choose between DD and Liz. I'm going to go pull up a post or two of Liz's that bothers me.

Plant, this was exactly my point earlier las night. DD didn't get the sarcasm, then got it, then she came back and still didn't think it was sarcastic...

Sorry guys but this is going to be a long post. Try to follow along.



Why would Jo want the newbs to be quiet? If anything posting a lot will cause them to slip up more. Is his spouse a newb?



Agrees and disagrees in the same post. How can it be a great find if its not worth following up?



Why not 48 hours Jo? Afraid with the extra time you'll slip up? I also don't understand the vote on Kuhli, even as a joke to your sarcasm list. Why offer up a newbie? Because he was posting?
I took all his posts as jokes. Did you miss the sarcasm of his posts?



Pushing his vote for DD



LG, didn't you get the sarcasm in Jos list either? Isn't that one of the reasons you're voting DD?






How do you miss a bolded vote/retract?
















Jpap posts he thought that DD thought Jos list was acceptable but DD voted for him because of the list. Hows that make any sense?




Now that Jo feels like he has DD on the ropes he switches to throwing punches at Liz. I think this is so he can jump trains and still point out that he thought them suspicious.



Totally takes a post out of context. He does it a second time before I correct him.



Admits to twisting AFTER being called on it.



How do you miss a comma? Skimming? I don't think he missed it. I think he hoped no one went back to look.



You sure you're not? Also his vote was already on DD he couldn't throw one out on her again but every post since has been about her and trying to get other votes onto her.



Jpap has already admitted to twisting her missing comma post. Did you forget?



Now he is agreeing with me that Jpap should be watched.

Anyone notice that Jo loves to follow?



Following again?



Why would DD post that she was busy at work that morning. She threw out a post that she thought was helpful. She did prewarn she would be busy that afternoon. Once she noticed the messed up retraction she explained why.
I can't say I've seen it done but theres always a 1st.


So guys like I said I'm not voting the top 2 vote getters right now.

These 3 have been the ones pushing the hardest for votes.

LG has been on both players.

I wouldn't doubt that all 3 are mafia and trying to work together.

My vote stays on Jpap. If anyone else can see what I see then join me. If not lynch the innocent players.

Yes, Ice, I missed the comma. Believe me if you want to but I don't really care if you do not at this point. But how could all 3 of us be mafia and be working together? There are 3 original but no spouses yet. Only spouses can communicate.