THE PLAY: Mafia #16 'Till death do we part...

[clown-lover]

/// game off
Well the nightmare of this last fiber job is over so maybe some sanity will return to my life.. I completed the job and returned home as of 9:30 cst this evening. (Yea I get to sleep in my own bed with the GF )
/// game on

Late last night I posted some of my observations/questions about what had happened the previous game day.. I have had quite a bit of time to turn things over in my head I even printed out the forum so I could go over things as I tested all that fiber today.. (460 strands people.. Lets talk about monotonus fun ).. Anyway as Charlie put it the readers digest version of my concerns were basically..

1) Liz - lack of posting.. She answered me below so that one is off my list.. She is still on the list however
(Her answering my question)

Yes, I did mention it. When I was defending why I wasn't reading old threads. I said "some days I don't know if I'll be able to be online at all (ie tomorrow)" or something.

Sorry guys. Yesterday I was at school from 7 am, picked up by a friend who I spent the day with at 11 pm and I had to go to bed to wake up for school today.

Today I had school, spent a few hours with the same friend, researched some skin care ingredients, read some reviews, etc etc.... so now I'm catching up,

2) The vote
3) Joanders pushing

So I looked at these and I had stated that I thought my vote would go on Jo but I have changed that thought simply because #3 is what is disturbing me the most.

Those last minute vote changes are the worst.. Because realistically there was a 50/50 chance that either DD or Liz would go.. But if your mafia you had a HUGE chance last night of hitting an innocent on the vote.. So what would you do if you were them.. You'd change your vote that was on someone at random and swing the vote to remove a townie from our midst. At this point Kuli is to new for that kind of thought I think.. So that leaves Hooked Newbie's vote. While he stated that he didn't want his vote to go to waste.

Well since it looks like JL with be a UD and a vote on Ice would be a waste at this point...

I retract my vote to lynch Johnlarson66 and vote to lynch Dangerdoll.

It was still a full two and half hours until night fell when he made this change. And realistically this vote was a waste way before then so why the change two hours before nightfall??

While Jo pushed hard - there is not doubting that.. He has admitted it. I think this vote change needs to be explained in more detail than what was posted here. You had quite a while to make this decision since this vote was cast on the 13th at 7:39 pm (my time) - #284.

So as of this point I vote to lynch Hooked Newbie

Now onto other things...

I have no knowledge that you are Mafia, I suspect several as leaning that way as I stated in post 438.

I was obviously wrong about DD, but it seems several of us were thinking along the same lines.

It is still a bit early in the game, especially since the number of mafia were effectively doubled less than 24 hrs ago and there hasn't been that much posting.

I do not consider you as a large mafia canidate....I am now having big concerns about Ice, Clown and jpap. SOme of it is still just a gut feel, but depending on who you are and what you are, gut feels are okay if they stated it, but a cop out if others state it.

So Bob - just throwing names out there like your previous list with absolutely no rational? So there is nothing for us to pick apart but your "gut instincts??" Get real. You have big concerns about what.. That I had my 40 in by Yesterday?? When do you have your 40 in for the week? Tomorrow? I can show you my timecard if you want. Would you like me to scan it in and post it on the board? I even have GPS data to prove where I was.. Would you like that as well???

I made a stand 7 posts ago from yours...

What stand??? You've pretty much just thrown out some names to see if you can get an nibble. At this point all you have posted is some pretty words and that is about it.. (kick kick kick) are your bushes moving yet Bob??

 

[DeputyChiefJR]

Ok, this is driving me nuts. Everyone keeps pointing to low-posters as automatic guilty ones. I was going to write a post this morning but the site was down and had to go to work, I went to work and chose to hang out with some friends tonight so I'm finally getting to some ideas now. Last game I was in the people who accused the most were the highest posters in the game (Clown-lover and Swayde). Now I'm going to start targeting high posters as guilty because I'm beginning to believe that in this game those who talk a lot are doing so to cover something. It seems to happen game after game with highly experienced players and the strategy could be working more so with those who have modded before and get to observe what things go completely unnoticed. Everyone pegs the high posters as helpful but often they are the ones most guilty at turning the game in their direction, so for now I'm going to combine this theory with the person I see as most acting under this method.

I vote to lynch Joander.

 

[Liz]

I remember you saying you thought someone was suspicious but it wasn't me, though you kept your vote on me. I believe you were talking to Jpappy at the time and said you had to wait until that person posted again to tell. So now you're saying that person was Jo? A bit convenient now, but I would still like to hear why you think he is suspicious in your own words.

No it was DD. On the same basis I was judging other people (incorrectly). She had voted for me who I guess was at the time apparently mafia, and once that was over with, if she retracted her vote she would have been innocent.

I don't remember why I thought he's suspicious. It was a gut feeling. Maybe I'll go back and look now.

 

[Rbishop]

It'd help the town more IMO if you would SAY something instead of repeatedly referring to post numbers. You again have dodged the direct questions. When did I call you mafia and what accusations did I make? Feel free to quote instead of listing post numbers... That method only helps to confuse. Am I wrong that you are more active when questioned on things?

I never said you called me mafia, that is you making a statement. The acusations have already been listed, look at them. The method isn't for confusion, it is direct and easy.

 

[Rbishop]

I vote to lynch Hooked Newbie.

 

[Liz]

Ok Joander was bothering me from pretty much the beginning because he's basically just been throwing accusations all over the place, seems very defensive and... I don't know. Antsy? It indicates to me that he is hiding something. It is just quite suspicious to me. He also is kind of overly-enthusiastic and pushy about a post "screaming mafia" without really much good reason (I think?) and he keeps pushing his innocence so aggressively and... he just seems like he's over exaggerating everything.

He just doesn't seem innocent. It seems to me like he is way too enthusiastic about accusing everyone of being mafia so boldly... left and right. And suspect him and he gets aggressive and forces that he is innocent. I guess it's also the forcefulness, trying to guide the game or something.

 

[Liz]

It doesn't seem to me like an innocent would have to try so hard to convince others they are innocent from the get-go... I mean if I am correct in my observations of his behavior, that would be a very bad strategy for a mafia... obviously trying so hard to appear innocent. But why would an innocent have that behavior?

Again, it seems to me like he's eager to jump on everyone, which seems antsy and suspicious to me, and very defensive about being innocent.

at this point, with no better candidates in my mind, I vote to lynch Joander

 

[Reefscape]

I would like others opinions on Charlie and Blue, maybe we can start the whole looking at a couple ppl thing and work out the mafia? We can keep Jo on here too, to make it 3?

My opinion there is i feel there is something in that statement indeed. Charlie has really dropped off where as Blue has changed somewhat in her posting methods...hmmm...no accusations of course, mearly an observation, and i feel one that does to have an eye kept on..

Jpap...you really did seem to get quite defensive when i asked a very simply question where there was no acusations in what i posted on my first comment, yet you felt the need to reply not long after in post 583 that i was trying to implicate you..seems to be like you were shifting focus somewhat...we shall see..

Liz was the person i voted for on night, and i believe i was the first to vote on her and i felt i had every right to concidering her posting manner..So, as things have slightly changed in Liz's mannerisms in the thread, she is no longer my leader for voting, however i feel that there is still something not right there..am sure something will shine through via her future postings.

My people to watch list right now are..

• Jpap
• Ice
• Blue / Charlie
• Liz
• joander

For now, I Vote to Lynch JPappy789, this is subject to change..

 

[joander123]

sigh... watch the newbs jump on board....

DC your not just a low poster, your a nothing poster. You have done the town no good in any way shape or form, all you have done is cover your own @** and throw out votes so you wont die a UD... this last post was overall your 6th of the game.

As for Liz big surprise there, follows suit again... not to mention my vote is on her, newbs love the omgus vote...

 

[IceH2O]

iceH2O you seem pretty sarcastically humerous of the thought that i just died, or atleast hooked "said i died". your'e amused with the thought of my death and only sick people like mafia would want people's death for there own amusement...
I vote to lynch iceH2O

This is crazy funny.

Kuhli you didn't even comprehend the post at all. Maybe this game is above your comprehension level.

Maybe if you weren't 24 hours behind everyone you'd understand better.

I'm trying to give you the benefit of the doubt but you sure do make it hard.The only reason I'm not picking you for my next victim is that the only way I can see that you as mafia is if you are being coached by another newb mafia. If an experienced mafia was your partner I think your posts would be more coherent or at least up to date.