Mafia 17: Vampires

Fungi said:
That things worked out as you suggested, it hardly ever works like that but one occasionally convinces oneself that the situation fits the idea, personally I've found that being reactionary rather than pre-emptive works best, a pragmatic response better than a transposed ideal... this is more theoretical than actual, however, whatever works for you...
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You wanna dumb this down a shade??? We're not all working for NASA
 
Lady G said:
Well, DD if you want to see it that way, so be it!! I believe she is a Vamp, if she is lynched and innocent:laugh:I'll take the blame and will take my lynching if need be,,of coarse they may of "changed" me by then..in which case I hope I am lynched. BTW, this was in response to me saying "come on guy's join the trend", to Blue saying there was a "trend" between me and Jpap.


Yep, there may be "rambling" as you put it...but you know more than anyone since you mod the games...each time I have "rambled" I've been innocent:lipssealedsmilie:


Awww, now you are agreeing with Blue that Jpap and I are Vamp.




So, Charlie how do you KNOW he know's someone was changed??? Seems awfully confident of a statement there? Is it you and Blue instead of RB and Blue????

I know he knows because it says so in the rules. You know i know he knows because i posted it in the thread. Having never played Vampire Game before, why wouldn't he have read the rules???

Hope you feel better soon my lil' tiger!!!
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my comments above, in purple
 
I was looking through the thread as night fell and thinking, "If i was LV, who would I chose?"

I thought to myself, "Andi is perfect. Newbs can survive along time with a seasoned vet guiding them."

I thought, "Mod's are too likely to be investigated. Again it's more likely the Det. will investigate repeat players or Mods. While a Mod may be LV or the first minion, it's unlikely to be the first turn."

These thoughts are just my opinion, but it could be helpful if all the innocents consider who they would have chosen, no long lists, just one person and a reason. Vamps please disregard this notice.

I would have chosen Andi, because she is flying under the radar and leaving us no tracks to follow.
 
Hooked Newbie said:
Ok.... and your point is? The object is to get information out there right? If someone posts something that I feel is not right, how will it help the town to keep it to myself?
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No one.. However it is quite interesting that after I made accusation that the vamps are in the middle to low posters all of sudden several of those people have started speaking up don't you think??? :lipssealedsmilie:

Dangerdoll said:
some new things to note, almost missed it.... seem quite cozy in talking to G, responding to her post, I guess it was post 320 which was all over Kuhlie... yet you call it nice. Then, there have been a couple other post, some informative, with facts people point out but yet, you post in post number 336. I don't know... seems a bit far off and seems to be ignorant of the posts between.



CL, I did question the time but not for an answer... it was just picking up on a clue. I don't know where the arrogance is coming off from and what reason you feel you need to put it towards me but it's not helping.

Simple because you and blue and several others are those that are riding into the low to low middle posting area and you are not contributing to the hunting down of these flippin' vamps. You make yourselves known just enough and are trying to avoid the radar.. However this little reparte' has brought at least you out of the coffin..

ummm.... CL, for the most recent post from you, instead of quoting it, because it would lose because of multiposting, I will respond to it here. What in the world gives you the idea that I consider myself "perfect"?? I never said I was perfect in game/off game on board or off. I fnd that insulting really and didn't really think you would try using that tactic to get people to follow you. It's a low, game or not. I just want to note that small errors could in fact indicate something so no use in trying to peddle out of what I have noted. Also, please let me know the questions you deem so important that I have not answered. I do see that you have noted on what you call "suspicious" thoughts I had on Kuhlie, but you see I never thought they were enough to vote for him. I did think RB was more suspicious than he, thus my vote. Where was your vote, CL? Why are you trying so hard? You seem to be quick to try to throw accusations, railroading at it's finest.
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Again the questions might not have a "?" question mark after them but they are there if you had read the post and not skimmed it.. Why such the quick defense of Blue? Why the feel to need to? She can take care of herself.. You seem awefully single sighted right now.. Something a vamp would do.. Your not shaking trees but you make it seem like you are..

johnlarson66 said:
I can't quote what you posted in my quote, but I think most of us are fairly busy, I for one will not be around much until after Thanksgiving.

I am glad you think I would make a good turn. I do not see how HN would have been your first choice to turn, he seems too vocal, from what you posted.

I will continue to "glide" through the game and hopefully can help lynch a vampire here and there.
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I find this post disturbing.. While I understand things about work.. Why would you feel it necessary to "glide" through the game??

Fungi said:
Niko, you should understand that appearances are everything, there is no inherent innocence that shines through posts, the only way to find out is to be the seer, or to lynch them, it's a bit like breaking open the goose that lays the golden eggs.



Andi and johnlarson have seemed to implicate themselves quite comfortably, neither have received any flack for it, andi herself flitted in then left quite at ease. If there's any relationships going on, I'd suggest these two as a prime associated example.



Once again, Niko is completely unconcerned with how he comes across in his posts, there's a certain devil-may-care attitude in it, an innocent always fears for their life, a vampire may appear indifferent so's not to arouse suspicioun/draw attention to their posts. My reason for not going invisible? If the LV and minion are mods, they can see anyway, I want all users to see that I am an active participant and not a 'skimmer', enshrouding oneself in secrecy can be quite harmful, lurkers and watchers often prove foul.



I've forgotten why I multi quoted this, I think something to do with the first paragraph...
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Well I have definately noticed a change in your game play..
Exactly my point.. There are tooooo many of those hiding right now...

Fungi said:
That things worked out as you suggested, it hardly ever works like that but one occasionally convinces oneself that the situation fits the idea, personally I've found that being reactionary rather than pre-emptive works best, a pragmatic response better than a transposed ideal... this is more theoretical than actual, however, whatever works for you...
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And I have found the opposite to be true.. To not be out there shaking trees of people who are quiet and non-responsive is more of an issue than anything. If they are not participating in the hunting of vampires then they are as good a vampire in my eyes. I don't believe in transposing my ideal to the situation necessarily however it has been proven many times before that the evil ones hide from the light.

charlie_stubbs said:
The more i think about it, Andi would have made a great turn She has hardly been mentioned by anyone, and her posts don't list suspects, just pie recipes. Here's a weasel that needs a kickin'.
I vote to stake Andi.
Lets see you post a recipe for blood pudding.
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Um.. don't want to make a jo mistake charlie...

charlie_stubbs said:
I was looking through the thread as night fell and thinking, "If i was LV, who would I chose?"

I thought to myself, "Andi is perfect. Newbs can survive along time with a seasoned vet guiding them."

I thought, "Mod's are too likely to be investigated. Again it's more likely the Det. will investigate repeat players or Mods. While a Mod may be LV or the first minion, it's unlikely to be the first turn."

These thoughts are just my opinion, but it could be helpful if all the innocents consider who they would have chosen, no long lists, just one person and a reason. Vamps please disregard this notice.

I would have chosen Andi, because she is flying under the radar and leaving us no tracks to follow.
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Kind of why I made the out of the side of my mouth comment.. You are however taking the more direct approach. :)
 
atnixon said:
Not that much gone on over night it appears...

However, its nice of Plant to give a retaliation post to mine.....on the back foot now someone has called you out? I think you are, and your vote confirms that. If you did not feel threatened by me calling you out, you would not of made a snap vote so soon as the end of the day, with another day to go..

Yes, i regret keeping my vote on Kuhli, it was a bad choice to make, but, it is what it is, it cant be changed..i felt he has something to hide and the hole he was in was just getting deeper..so, i stuck to my words. Which is why i am sticking to my words now, i think your the LV..and this post from you really does confirm it more..

I call people out, its how i like to play, if you cant handle the heat, then get outta the sunshine...erm...kitchen...

What has also surprised me a little is the lack of responses from Bob..I pulled him up about not saying anything about loosing an innocent on the first night, and yet, after him posting, he has "still" not said anything about it..how odd..again, do you not feel sad we lost an innocent Bob? It was a huge blow to the town, and regretfully i played a part in that, but i acknowldge that i was wrong and shown my sadness..you seem to show a real lack of passion about it, which is what is making me think your a minion....
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Niko, I can handle all the heat you want to send my way, so bring it on as I have nothing to hide. If you would read and pay attention you would know that I put you on a list giving reasons why I thought you were a Vamp while you made your case against me (Which was full of holes, btw. Nice try, though ;).) You even quoted another of my posts stating I was suspicious of you in your case against me. I voted for you because you were one of the main pple that picked and picked on Kuhli and it looked like all fun and games on your part (as Kuhli expressed his frustration of being picked on in two seperate posts) until you voted for him.

Then as others have said you're a smart guy. How could you still think there were only 2 Vamps after Ice's post explaing the turns? Could it be because you wanted us to think you were innocent since you didn't know about the turn? And/or possibly because you want to mislead pple about the number of Vamps running around? And then, even after Charlie explained his post about the Toothie friend comment, you still tried to put a twist on his words.

And additionally you did single me out citing no attention is being paid to me when just the day before I had gotten 2 votes from JM and Jp (Though they retracted their votes). You even told JM you were not worried about me and that you thought I was just "banging on doors" to get responses (post 359). So what in the world happened to change your mind? The same morning that you think I've been low on ppl's radars (post 559) I answered your post about the number of possible Vamps (532), made a post to Jo (544), and made a post to Fungi (547). Was it one of those posts that got you deciding I needed more attention? Why didn't you mention Jo, Fungi, JL, Andi, or any of the other players who pple have not been talking about much?

So read this post carefully if you want to know the real reason why I voted for you, so you won't have to go on fabricating other reasons.

charlie_stubbs said:
You wanna dumb this down a shade??? We're not all working for NASA
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LOL, Chaz. I had to read the post a few times also, but I think Fungi is trying to say that just because Niko stated that RB and I have a relationship and then it turned out RB is voting the same way as I am doesn't automatically make Niko's assessment true. Also Fungi prefers to go on evidence and not just some trumped up idea, so he is going to go review our posts.

charlie_stubbs said:
A note is found:
Niko-
Gone to kick weasels. Be Back Later.
-Charlie's vote
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This made me laugh. Don't ever change, Charlie.
 
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