Mafia #26: Roadside Picnic the Game

[johnlarson66]

Yeah us!!!!

Do I have to be the one to point out that I was curious about Grace during the Ogre train? Guess so. Why would I do that if Scum? Pretty bold for a distancing tactic, dontcha think?

My top scary-types are:

LadyG: No reason to hunt me, lovely lady. I've done nothing to you.

Ice: Again, not a good reason, other than I'm a good scapegoat.

Beth: Don't like your posts. They seem insincere and largely pulled from other's previously posted ideas.

RB: has dropped a bit, but I'm watching. He didn't really respond to being voted, and has "chilled out" his posts.

Praise Bala, I will survive to help heal AC of this horrible Alien threat to our safety.

~xoxo~

Thanks Ice for showing this post. I did not catch this. I think judgemax saw this also but never did post it. It is why you wanted her to be investigated. Maybe that is why the stalkers hit her.

I missed this completely. This was a big time hint.

 

[IceH2O]

I couldn't sleep with this on my mind but 1st I'll answer Sways post.

I'm just trying to look for inconsistencies. Why risk losing an innocent to find out if you are a stalker?


Now for what I came to write and hopefully it helps me to get to sleep(lol I hate this game)

The only reason I can think of for the hit to have stayed on Jenson and not be switched is because the stalkers weren't around to make that switch. That leaves JL Jpap and last minute showup and vote JM as top contenders. If they didn't know about the finding or didn't have time to make the switch the hit would have stayed on Jensons. Of the 3 listed JM looks the most stalker.I'd put Jpap as 2nd and I don't think I'd considder JL at all.

So the 3 I'm thinking are LG JM and Jpap.

 

[Lady G]

So the communicating innocents would not have to reveal themselves in any, way, shape or form. If someone questioned me on how I knew LG is a stalker or assumed I'd gotten the investigation because of being on the team, I did not want to have the team having to defend me or take the chance they would not believe me. Basically I felt honesty is the best policy. Perhaps it was too much info, but I tend to get a bit excited when I get to have an investigation and it ends up a good one and even thought I try to be very careful and plan out all the potential scenarios, I am human and do not manage to think of all the angles.

I wanted to figure out what LG was because I figured it would help figure out you and Jensons (and it looked like Jensons was getting lynched anyhow)...I still believe that my theory was right, LG was trying to latch onto Ice because he's such a high profile player. I seriously doubt she'd follow his votes if both are stalkers.

No, Swayde you were wrong...as I have said many times I latched on to no one, and I follow no one...even when on a team, I make my own choices and post my own thoughts.

Odd thing to say IMO. I guess I don't get what you mean? I just found out about 20-30 minutes before I posted what my investigation result was.

It does make me think that Beth is highly likely to be innocent. I can't see any reason why a stalker would go and vote on another stalker at this point in the game for no real good reason.

Gotta wonder about you though HN.

Hmmm, I thought investigations happen at nightfall and you get the results after?? Did this change?

I've not only seen others do it, but I've done it before myself and the rules say that it's standard mafia rules. You can say anything you want in a game, you just can't cut & paste an actual PM, which I did not do and since Z has posted since I did, I am quite sure he's fine with it.

Exactly, anyone can say ANYTHING....

The fact that Ice is trying to throw suspicion on people who thought Jensons was evil, and then changed their minds when it was revealed that LG is a stalker has me really, really thinking I was wrong about Ice and he's a stalker. It makes sense since I was wrong about Jensons. I really thought she was a stalker until I found out LG was. Then I realized it was highly unlikely that LG would gun for a fellow evil. I've actually never seen anyone do that, especially in the first few days with so many other targets.

Where's RB at lately? He seems to have gone rather quiet. Jpappy also. We've got to find the last 2 stalkers and that won't happen if people do not participate.

At this point, after LG I will be voting for Ice if they don't hit me.

Umm, Swayde there are 3 stalkers left, why say 2...is it because there are 2 others besides yourself??

 

[Lady G]

I posted that because I feared pple would start to believe LG is innocent and drop off of her.

I still have my reservations about you but if you're willing to vote Ice out after LG you may be more innocent than I thought. Though you have a funny relationship going on w/HN. You two basically put lone votes on each other at different times.

I thought Ogre might be innocent because of the Morse code but Coler voted CL w/Ogre the first day. With how the Stalkers have been playing perhaps Ogre was on a team w/4 and enya and/or coler were the lost sheep? Or JL maybe figured this out as a lone Stalker not on the same team and that's why he rushed to save Ogre. But then again in the intro it said the Stalkers are close, so perhaps that's a lame theory.

LOL, I'm so paranoid I thought JP was innocent but I got suspicious when LG called him her 'lil tiger.

Ice/RB/BKW have been giving me some bad vibes. Especially Ice and RB lately with their crazy ramblings. I'm thinking about one of them for next days vote.

CL could be innocent because both Coler and LG were pretty severe in their comments about him.

Beth could be innocent since she voted LG before Swayde came out and LG threw a lot of suspicion her way, but it could also be distancing.

Really the only person that I trust atm is Swayde. Did I miss anyone?

LOL, you FEARED others my come off me? Why would you be so afraid of that Plant?? You really have gone back and forth in my head, this make me wonder a little more about you were you afraid they would come off me and the Stalkers "plan" wouldn't go through??

You mention of Stalker "teams" and "lone" stalkers where ever did you get there was more than one team of stalkers??

Beth COULD be innocent, also I did mention Beth yes...but I don't think I ever through ALOT of suspicions her way.

 

[Lady G]

The Golden Sphere!

[FONT=&quot]The Holy Grail of the Zone, it is rumored to grant the owner their deepest desire. This item is possessed by a Stalker, it is non-transferable, if the Stalker dies before it is used, it is gone. It may only be used once, and has one of the following possible effects: it may make a lynch mob go after the person with the second highest number of votes, it may resurrect a person that was killed for one Day/Night cycle (including allowing a vote), it may make one Survivor vote void, it may make the Day last an additional 24 hours, it may mute one player for the remainder of the Day, or it may instantly kill the owner. Six sides to a die, six possible outcomes. A random number generator (die) will decide the outcome. A great asset and a great risk. Use with caution.

The die has been cast! The Town runs past Lady G as a golden glimmer fills the meeting room.
Jensons is grabbed by the arms and tossed out an open window into a batch of briars. The whole time they scream "What about Lady G!!!" The briars begin to constrict and soon Jensons is quieted. There is irony to this as Jensons was marked by the Stalkers as their hit tonight. There was no escaping the darkness.

Jensons was Innocent... And ACvilles resident DOCTOR!!!

GAME ON! Night 3 will be at 8PM EST Friday.

And again I apologize, I realize a few things need to be addressed before i host this format again.
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It was the evils with the sphere, they wouldn't waste it on the #2 vote getter and forget taking a hit.

But then...

SINCE WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE RULES ARE...WE CAN ONLY GUESS.....

RB, I don't think they got to chose which effect the sphere had...so maybe the hit was on Jensons, and they were hoping one of the other effects would happen instead??

 

[Lady G]

Anyone who believes that these posts by Lady G are of an innocent unjustly going down has got to be blind or are a Stalker.

That last part that I bolded sounded like a threat.


Here she sounds like she's giving up because she's been caught. Then warns us again that things are not what they seem.

If I were innocent and going down I would at least make a case against the person that claimed to have investigated me.

Ok, Plant...there was no threat, just saying things are not always as they seem, as in people may say and do things you wouldn't think they would.

Obviously, I didn't think I was going to make it threw the night...I thought I was going to be lynched, I had not givin up because I had been "caught" but because I had to leave and I knew when I got back home I would no longer be in the game. I knew everyone would learn from my lynching so why fight it at the time, when I got home...I wasn't out, but still no one is going to believe me anyway as I said she may of got an investigation, but I'm not so sure it was an "innocent" one.

As I said earlier, at that point and now even no one is going to believe what I say..once someone comes out and says they got an investigation everyone believes them the more I try to defend myself the more ppl would say I was a stalker..I did have to get to work and there was no time for me to do anything anyway, I'm just glad the sphere backfired (sorta) on them, I think they figured I would go and they would get their hit, then one of the other effects would of come into play...and Swayde would look like she was innocent,...myself and Jensons and the sphere would do something else other then take out the second highest vote getter and after Swayde would look as a "known innocent".

Your last few post have made me wonder greatly about you I vote to toss Plant into the zone

 

[Lady G]

LOL, I was just trying to figure out where he got the 4 bad guys from. My imagination runs wild when I'm paranoid.

Well, I remembered her calling you that before and I think she was evil and you were not so it didn't concern me enough to put you on a list or anything.

Another point for you, why so paranoid?? Also, I have called Pap that many games...some I was evil, some I was innocent..I didn't just do it in one. You are sure pushing hard to get me lynched aren't you...I think you are so paranoid because YOU are a stalker and your plan was looking to maybe not work for you guys. Was I getting to close to the truth there Plant??

 

[Swayde]

I'm just trying to look for inconsistencies. Why risk losing an innocent to find out if you are a stalker?

This made me chuckle. You've suggested that we lynch you, that you are willing to be a sacrifice for the town, just so we can find out that you are innocent and move on to other people. Talk about an inconsistancy. LG has been soooooo helpful right, why risk losing her, oh noes??????

The fact that Jensons also pushed Grace as pointed out by LG was also a factor.

You guys can think what you want, all of you jump on me instead since we have numbers I'll be more then glad to be an innocent sacrifice.

 

[plantling]

Umm, Swayde there are 3 stalkers left, why say 2...is it because there are 2 others besides yourself??

Ummm maybe because she's already found you out as 1 of the 3 last stalkers. 3 minus 1 equals 2.

LOL, you FEARED others my come off me? Why would you be so afraid of that Plant?? You really have gone back and forth in my head, this make me wonder a little more about you were you afraid they would come off me and the Stalkers "plan" wouldn't go through??
Ice had made a post about you being a possible innocent and Swayde being a stalker. Ice is a good player and other players tend to listen to what he says and sometimes follow his lead. RB had just dropped off of you but at least it was onto Ice, which may be just distancing but I didn't want anyone else to drop off of you so I posted two of your posts that IMO looked like you had given up as a Stalker.

You mention of Stalker "teams" and "lone" stalkers where ever did you get there was more than one team of stalkers??
Coler and Enya both were pretty non-active stalkers. 6 minus 2 is 4. 4 happened to be the number that Ogre put out there as the number of baddies. If Ogre were on the team w/4 he may not have known about the other 2 or he could be trying to reach out to them. Like I said it was just a wild theory with not much credibility.

Beth COULD be innocent, also I did mention Beth yes...but I don't think I ever through ALOT of suspicions her way.
I seem to remember negative thoughts between you and Beth and your 'lil Tiger even agreed in his post after mine. But I'll pull up some posts.

Originally Posted by ZSandmann
The Golden Sphere!

[FONT=&quot]The Holy Grail of the Zone, it is rumored to grant the owner their deepest desire. This item is possessed by a Stalker, it is non-transferable, if the Stalker dies before it is used, it is gone. It may only be used once, and has one of the following possible effects: it may make a lynch mob go after the person with the second highest number of votes, it may resurrect a person that was killed for one Day/Night cycle (including allowing a vote), it may make one Survivor vote void, it may make the Day last an additional 24 hours, it may mute one player for the remainder of the Day, or it may instantly kill the owner. Six sides to a die, six possible outcomes. A random number generator (die) will decide the outcome. A great asset and a great risk. Use with caution.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]The die has been cast! The Town runs past Lady G as a golden glimmer fills the meeting room.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Jensons is grabbed by the arms and tossed out an open window into a batch of briars. The whole time they scream "What about Lady G!!!" The briars begin to constrict and soon Jensons is quieted. There is irony to this as Jensons was marked by the Stalkers as their hit tonight. There was no escaping the darkness.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Jensons was Innocent... And ACvilles resident DOCTOR!!![/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]GAME ON! Night 3 will be at 8PM EST Friday.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]And again I apologize, I realize a few things need to be addressed before i host this format again.[/FONT]

RB, I don't think they got to chose which effect the sphere had...so maybe the hit was on Jensons, and they were hoping one of the other effects would happen instead??

I really don't think any of the other effects of the sphere were that desirable to the Stalkers. What good would the vote of a dead person do or the void of a survivor's vote as the votes have been landslides? What good would muting a player do or making the day last another 24 hours when everyone's minds have been set on you already?

Ok, Plant...there was no threat, just saying things are not always as they seem, as in people may say and do things you wouldn't think they would.
I read it as a threat or promise that some doom will befall the town.

Obviously, I didn't think I was going to make it threw the night...I thought I was going to be lynched, I had not givin up because I had been "caught" but because I had to leave and I knew when I got back home I would no longer be in the game. I knew everyone would learn from my lynching so why fight it at the time, when I got home...I wasn't out, but still no one is going to believe me anyway as I said she may of got an investigation, but I'm not so sure it was an "innocent" one.
I would have fought it or at least stated that Swayde was lying and to please everyone give me a chance to get home and explain before voting me off. You should know that once votes get piled on it's kinda hard to get them off. You were a bit calmer than a misrepresented innocent would be IMO.

As I said earlier, at that point and now even no one is going to believe what I say..once someone comes out and says they got an investigation everyone believes them the more I try to defend myself the more ppl would say I was a stalker..I did have to get to work and there was no time for me to do anything anyway, I'm just glad the sphere backfired (sorta) on them, I think they figured I would go and they would get their hit, then one of the other effects would of come into play...and Swayde would look like she was innocent,...myself and Jensons and the sphere would do something else other then take out the second highest vote getter and after Swayde would look as a "known innocent".
Which other effect could they have been shooting for?

Your last few post have made me wonder greatly about you I vote to toss Plant into the zone

LOL, this seals the deal for me that you are a Stalker. If it were me I'd make a case against and vote someone I knew was a Stalker, the person who lied about their investigation, not someone who might only be doing what they think is best for the town. Perhaps you figured Swayde had too much credibility at this time to get a train started on her and that less people trusted me?

Another point for you, why so paranoid?? Also, I have called Pap that many games...some I was evil, some I was innocent..I didn't just do it in one. You are sure pushing hard to get me lynched aren't you...I think you are so paranoid because YOU are a stalker and your plan was looking to maybe not work for you guys. Was I getting to close to the truth there Plant??

IMO the Stalkers wouldn't be paranoid because they already know who the innocents are. My only plan is to vote out as many Stalkers as I can. Rest assured if you are innocent I will vote Swayde next. But somehow I don't think that'll be necessary.

Here are some posts I found w/you mentioning Beth or answering her. IMO the comments were a bit too severe for distancing:

Ok, guys I haven't been on as much as I normally am with this game so I am doing a general observation here on how I feel about each person..now that I have a few issues taken care of I should be able to be on more...

Beth-Well, Beth has my eye...she seems to be just going with the motion so to say. Not really diggin much and basing posts on others pretty much.

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Well, wanted to get a quick post in before work (yes I work day shift today)...anyway you never know what will come up so I wanted to get my vote in.

Jensons, Cory, Beth, Enya, and Coler with HN sliding in there are my tops right now. I know there are only 5 left and I named 6 but I always end up with more suspects then there are evils...anyway Jensons and Cory seem to stand out the most to me. Beth just seems to of fallen out of the game along with Enya and Coler..now if they all three are Stalkers that seems very weird and if they posted more I could maybe get more of a feel for them, since they aren't though they are up there in my tops.

I do not like how Cory voted saying he wanted to get his vote in "in case he can't get back on" but in the same post says how IF Enya starts talking he may move his vote??? Just seems to me if you are not sure you will be here to change your vote, why place it on someone to try and "make them talk"?

Anyway I vote to toss Jensons into the zone

Beth had accused you of skimming and voted you then Swayde had come out w/her investigation:

No, I wasn't skimming...I was making my post it was there after.

Well, it looks as though I am going tonight....for the record, I was following no-one, I would not follow anyone innocent or "mafia"...just posting thoughts as they came and can't help it if others feel the same.

Going back into work now...have a great game, but remember the game has advanced quite a bit and things that you do not think could (would) happen can and will.

 

[johnlarson66]

Why would the stalkers use the The Golden Sphere!?

Why wouldn't the stalkers try to get Coler and Enya to atleast post a vote of some sort? Well, maybe they did. I see a post where Lady G names Coler and Enya as possible stalkers. Did she know they were not coming back?