Mafia #27: Survivor ACville Island

[Hooked Newbie]

I am not trying to protect anyone.

Maybe I did get lucky on the whole Fungi thing. Maybe I have turned on both of my teamates.

There are lots of maybes left in this game.

But can you possibly say that maybe Gracecat is innocent??? Can you (or anyone) say that maybe Gracecat is innocent.

I think everyone can agree on the fact that GC is mafia. Let's get rid of her, one less mafia.

Then it will be 2 vs 2. None of us trusts each other, and there is a chance that there will be no hit. It will make a very interesting day.

I know that I am innocent, I think Ice had pretty much had me down as innocent. I know there is some doubt about me, but there is no doubt about Gracecat.

Gracecat is mafia. No maybes about it.

I agree that GC is scum (no offense here GC). Why not go after LG though? I've effectively tendered myself to her being Lazuli. Now, you don't beieve me and want to take a tangent? I believed you and voted for Fungi. I believed Ice and voted for Jpap. You seem to be the only one that's "wishy washy". Forgive me, but I do fear being played and set up for the hit.

 

[johnlarson66]

Lady G,

I can see where you are coming from.

It could be where I banished my own teamates to gain trust. It would be a risky move, but I can see where it could happen. I am not sure if I could have talked jpappy and fungi into or not. It would have been a hard sell. I was fairly rough on Fungi. He did name me as an innocent and a member of his alliance.

I can see this as a possiblty and hope the next time I am mafia and there are two teams we try it.

The fact that HN and rb want to banish you is the main reason I am wanting to wait and banish GC. I have even been called out as protecting you.

I do trust you being innocent the least, of the three. I trust GC the least and so no reason that the rest of us do not vote for GC. If anyone can speak up for GC, I would love to hear it.

 

[Hooked Newbie]

Lady G,

I can see where you are coming from.

It could be where I banished my own teamates to gain trust. It would be a risky move, but I can see where it could happen. I am not sure if I could have talked jpappy and fungi into or not. It would have been a hard sell. I was fairly rough on Fungi. He did name me as an innocent and a member of his alliance.

I can see this as a possiblty and hope the next time I am mafia and there are two teams we try it.

The fact that HN and rb want to banish you is the main reason I am wanting to wait and banish GC. I have even been called out as protecting you.

I do trust you being innocent the least, of the three. I trust GC the least and so no reason that the rest of us do not vote for GC. If anyone can speak up for GC, I would love to hear it.

Can't possibly speak up for GC, but I can speak out against you. If you think I'm not telling the truth at least have the sack to say it. The roundabout posting is really pretty telling to me. I've already voted for something I'm sure of, but if the Island would prefer you be gone, I may use my one change.

 

[johnlarson66]

I agree that GC is scum (no offense here GC). Why not go after LG though? I've effectively tendered myself to her being Lazuli. Now, you don't beieve me and want to take a tangent? I believed you and voted for Fungi. I believed Ice and voted for Jpap. You seem to be the only one that's "wishy washy". Forgive me, but I do fear being played and set up for the hit.

I am being wishy washy. It makes me nervous that rb is also willing to vote for Lady G. I also do not like how Lady G thinks that GC could be innocent. I can change my vote. Do you see my concern?

As far as the hit, the only thing the innocents can do is pray for a miss.

rb attached himself to Ice, but Ice never bought into it.

To heck with it,

I vote to banish Lady G from the Island.

 

[Hooked Newbie]

I am being wishy washy. It makes me nervous that rb is also willing to vote for Lady G. I also do not like how Lady G thinks that GC could be innocent. I can change my vote. Do you see my concern?

As far as the hit, the only thing the innocents can do is pray for a miss.

rb attached himself to Ice, but Ice never bought into it.

To heck with it,

I vote to banish Lady G from the Island.

I do definitely see the concern. I'm right there with you on that. But on a similar note, I have to go with what I know and severely question those that doubt it for their reasons. There could be valid reasons... I can accept "I think you're full of it", but to not say that and go elsewhere has to be shady to me at this point. I may be a bit paranoid though *twitch*.

 

[Lady G]

Well, I was going to come on and say I think I would vote RB, yes...Grace seems to be mafia to me also. John has raised much suspicion to me also with his latest posts, but I am not sure he would hang his team mates out to dry...but I could see him guessing and getting lucky with Fungi, then Ice made his next vote easy.

The reason I would go with RB instead of Grace is the fact she is posting, RB has been way to quiet to me...what he has posted has done nothing to make him appear innocent in anyway, his "fake" vote for Jpap, then, I found it VERY interesting that he was in chat before and after nightfall...but posted nothing, this to me seems to show he knew what was going to happen, I would almost bet he was on the team that hit Ice and he knew Pap was going down...so no need to see what happend.

So I find myself going back and forth...but I think RB seems to be helping the least and for some reason sees himself as a "KNOWN" innocent then the fact of him not posting before or after nightfall while he was in chat..just doesn't add up for me so I vote to banish RB from the Island

 

[Lady G]

Wanted to add, I could and may switch my vote to John, his post about Grace and though I may believe she is evil also...it just seemed to "knowing" to me, it made me change my view a little more to he got lucky with Fungi and Ice helped him out with Pap (as I said earlier) I have rethought this out and it makes more since, now they took out 2 Emeralds...he is the one who also posted "remember your priorities" to the teams before night one...they have to take out the other team, was he reminding his "mates" or why did he exactly post that???

 

[Gracecat]

Could it be I have used my investigation John??? I've been saying from the get-go you and Jpap hung Fungi out to dry.

I believe you're the last remaining person in the Emerald Alliance. I said it two days ago, I'm saying it still... I'm riding this train all the way to the finish.

I vote to banish John from ACville Island.

 

[Gracecat]

None taken any longer HN... Now that I know what scum is

 

[Lady G]

You know the more I think about Johns posts and "investigation" on Fungi...I am really wondering...

Well six of the nine ARE evil. So almost everyone IS evil. There are more evil than innocents this game!

The good news is that the innocents get one investigation each.

I propose this question to my fellow island mates: If you were granted an investigation, who would you investigate and why?

I would investigate Fungi because I they have not played in awhile and were early to post.

I hope everyone will particapate in this.

So he starts with his question to who would investigate who and why...adding he would chose Fungi...which threw me off slightly as most would pick someone like Ice, HN, RB...could this of been a set up from the start?

That would make sense if you both were on the same evil team, now (this is a stretch) pretend you are innocent and not on the same evil team as Ice.

Rb had said he would investigate Ice then Lie about it...and YES, it did seem like a good idea didn't it?

You not wanting to investigate someone at this stage of the game, arouses my suspicion.

My guess is that you do not have an investigation, hence the line "I don't think". Anyone that does not have an investigation is evil.

Fungi, you are not an innocent.

I vote to banish Fungi from the Island.

I suggest that your teamates distance themselves and let you go.

Then his vote for Fungi, adding teamates should distance themselves...John did you try something this game we have not seen before? Are you voting day one for one of your mates to "distance"?

Ice, why not vote for Fungi? I can assure you that my vote will not be changing. I have an idea.

I retract my vote for Fungi and vote to banish Fungi from the island.

So there I have used my switch.

As far as trying to banish a teamate on day one, I just do not see it happening, while it would be a great move, I do not think many are willing to take that risk. Good job of putting it out there, are you on Fungi's team?

So here it sits, I am calling Fungi out. I feel only Fungi's teamates would protect them.

Here you add it WOULD be a great move.

Lady G, you have made some valid points.



So far no one has said that, but why wouldn't you believe them? This trick would work once. That very person would be on the chopping block the next day if they lied. Also, once they put their investigation out there, they would no longer be a threat to the mafia teams, just an innocent by-stander.

So I see no reason not to believe them.

I had said "would we believe someone who comes out"? Unless they named a team mate and "claimed" to get a investigation, and I believe the "innocents" are a threat to the mafia aren't they? Are the innocents not suppose to be taking out the mafia?? Wouldn't that be a threat? Hmmm, maybe not you are still here....

Let's just get this out of the way.

I had an investagation and I used it on Fungi, mostly because I felt that the other players with investigations would not investigate Fungi.

Fungi is a member of the Emerald Alliance.

Then he comes out saying he had the investigaton, IF he was so sure a "innocent" wouldn't be a threat to the mafia anymore..why did he not say this when he voted Fungi?

If a "mafia" comes from one team they can name a person either innocent or on another team (Most likely they will not name a teammate). They will not know what role that person is but at this point there would be a 50% chance that they are innocent and a 50% chance that they are on the other team (3 and 3).

Still a high risk move only to put their own neck out there. Ice's idea is better, just name one of your own and then have the trust of the rest of the island.

If I was mafia, it would be best to name someone from my own team that I knew was mafia than to take a 50/50 risk. If I failed on the 50/50 I would be dead for sure.

After Pap said the above post about a mafia from another team could come out and have a good chance of beign right...John adds "Ices" idea is better just name one of your own and gain the trust of the town....is this what you have done John??

There are some more posts I want to pull, but didn't want this to end up a whole page so I am splitting them up.
Up to this point...John sure seems to think it would be a great move for a member of the mafia to name one of his team mates for "trust".