Mafia #29 Biological Badlands #2

[Grins]

Thanks Grins! Even seeing quoted by others I hadn't noticed. Might want to have that cough checked out.

I vote to genetically test Jpappy.

Did you notice there was a question after the cough?

 

[catfish69hunter]

wow im at a loss right now. the one person i deff thought was an innocent is leading the list i mean zig you guys think he is evil??? i think hes being railroaded and you guys just arent seeing it. and as for jpap i mean when grins posted for him i really thought he was an innocent (going back to the whole i still dont know about grins yet)but wow the more people just keep jumping on. well i just have no clue now who is innocent and who is evil.

am i able to no vote??? i dont want to be the nail in the coffin so to speak and i just cant deside

 

[jpappy789]

Now that makes me even more nervous frankly, you've now decided you won't be voting for HN? I'm not convinced he is mafia but I'm sure in heck not convinced he is innocent and ready to declare I'll not be voting for him in this game. Why are you so sure?

maybe I should have reworded...I was and still am not going to vote Hn TONIGHT, I never was actually...

I wanted to comment on this one in it's own post. I've been thinking about who might be on a team together since before nightfall yesterday. I'm having more luck tying who might not be on a team together. Maybe listing those will help everyone else that is as confused as me at this point.

Based on conflict coming from at least one side; aggressiveness of the conflict; the conflicts being recent (I'm giving a pass to some of the early first day stuff when it has been dropped since) I'm thinking that the following people are not on the same team. I hope this is self explanatory, if not ask me.

Cat: Grins
Cory: Jpap, Hook
Hook: Cory, Jpap, Ogre
Ice: Ogre, Zig
Jpap: Cory, Hook
Ogre: Hook, Ice, Plant
Plant: Ogre
Zig: Ice

I'm starting to consider that
Jpap isn't on a team with Ice or John as well.

I tried to go back and review some older posts to see one I might have missed but my eyes started to go cross-eyed. I think there are some others I'd not pair with Zig but help me out here, what else doesn't make much sense as possible mafia teammates?

I like this post. Helpful and lays out who has been going after who. But I do have a problem with assuming that they are not on the same team.

Its ok Zig, I had enough time to look myself..




you=JL



talking to Zsand



you=Plantling





This post was made on the 1st day of the 2nd day cycle. If he thought Cory was evil the day before then why isn't it in his list of suspects and why did he vote Zsand and not Cory?


So his list is

JL
Ice
HN
Zsand
Plantling
Cory

he voted for HN retracted to Zsand. Then for Day 2 has voted for Cory, who was never on his list,though he says he suspected him the day before which would have been vote day.

So Zig, on the list above what are your feelings of these players now?


I'm trying to see where you can be innocent, I just don't see it. My vote is pretty much to keep me from a possible UD,though I'll probably be home before 8. My 2nd choice would be Jpap.

Unless I missed it Ice, where have you put out your suspicions of me? Or is this because I am going after you?

Nightfall is tonight at 8 right?

I want to get a vote out there, at this point I feel JPap is looking most mafia like. I'm open to discussion on it and changing my vote. Last night I said that JPap isn't likely to be on a team with Cory or Hooked. I'm less sure about Ice and JL being on a team with him but still not thinking it likely. I could see a Jpap, Ogre, Zig team. I can see other teams as well, but I'm basing that on Jpap looking the most mafia like to me at the moment.

I vote to genetically test JPap

Oooo, a "feel" vote...After your really productive post I was going to reconsider my thoughts on you but after seeing all the votes starting to pile up on me I am pretty certain you are trying to start something. Do some of my posts look scummy? Yes, but a vote because I look most mafia like? Come on...

I went back to review some of Day one happenings and review the votes, I typed this from scratch so if there are errors let me know.

Cory JL(4)
Jpap JL(8)
Plant Ogre (20)
Grins Jpap(74) JM(173) ZSand (179)
John (LadyG(81)
LadyG Ice (12) JL122)
Ogre Hook(123) Ice(144) Cat(176)
Hook Zig (163)
Zig Zsand(172) Cat(209) ZSand(210) Hook(228) Ice (259)
JMax John(204) Plant(252) Hook(255) Jpap(260) Grins (266)
ZSand Zig (214)
Ice Grins(231) Ogre (240)

Now that I suspect Jpap with a possible Ogre/Zig team it brings up new thoughts. I see that Jpap voted safely in the middle of the train on JM.

Ogre switched an early vote on Plant and moved it to Ice who had been on him pretty hard. At the time I remember being a bit uneasy about his reasoning because he'd never seem to give my thoughts much credit previously yet in switching to Ice he did. In retrospect I'm seeing where he might have jumped on the thought he could get rid of Ice.

Zig keeping his vote on Zsand and ZSand is still a nagging doubt but not enough for me ignore other aspects.

Oh, and none of the 3 voted for one another on day 1 as well.


Now that list raises my eyebrow. I know 3 innocents are there...JM, ZSand and me. Understanding the rest of the town can't be asure as I am about me at least see that he had two of the people offed night one on his most suspected list.

Grins I am not a dumb player. Why would I openly put outmy thoughts on an evil teamate like I did? I am not sure of Zigs role but in my eyes he is innocent. Sure his posts are sometimes off but I see that as no for sure indication of scumminess.

And I admitted to my bad track record. But that proves nothing as that point it was NIGHT 1. Jmax was seen to many as evil. ZS was sort of out there but again, night 1. And you, well that doesnt really count...

There are worse things to do than to "pull an Ogre". I do hope that sticks.

So now Ice is "possibly evil scum" and I, who you have been sorta leaning innocent, am "Evil Scum".

Looks like you ar pulling an Ogre.

While Ice is a top suspect, mostly by just being Ice (same as HN) and there has been some small things that have me concerned, I think Zig is a better choice for today.

I did not like the fact that it was just me and you (Ogre) voting for Ice, when I have you also high as a suspect.

Ogre is doing some major filp-flopping which worries me.

Nope, not that.

I'm right now going back and forth with jpappy and Zigman. I vote to lynch jpappy. This will make it close between Zig and him, and I'm interested to see if some people change to save one of them. If people rush to jpappy to save him, or vice versa, it will definitly be telling.

I should have known that you would follow suit with a vote on me because you wouldnt have had the guts to place the first one out there yesterday when we were going at it.

Now I find myself at a major dilemma...

I am not fully convinced of Grins being scum and my vote wouldnt really matter.

I am thinking that cory is also scum. He saw the opportunity to follow Grins with a vote on me which only adds to the following he has been doing. But I doubt my vote will matter and voting with Zig would probably not be the best option as I am not entirely sure about his side and cory would probably twist my vote, claiming we must be on a team.

Ogre is making me nervous so I do not really want to place my vote on Ice even though he is seems like my best suspect at the moment. But it is my best option.

I vote to genetically test Ice

 

[catfish69hunter]

Now I find myself at a major dilemma...

I am not fully convinced of Grins being scum and my vote wouldnt really matter.

I vote to genetically test Ice

you know your not alone on that feeling i have been haveing the same feeling and it is well published.

 

[Hooked Newbie]

Did you notice there was a question after the cough?

Now I do. Sorry.

Because I've been back and forth between him and Jpap all "day", no one else has looked very scummy to me. At times, I think "Ooo XXXX must be evil" and then the next post or their reply doesn't seem so. I thought for sure that JM was evil. This has been a tough game for me to get a read on people.

 

[Hooked Newbie]

wow im at a loss right now. the one person i deff thought was an innocent is leading the list i mean zig you guys think he is evil??? i think hes being railroaded and you guys just arent seeing it. and as for jpap i mean when grins posted for him i really thought he was an innocent (going back to the whole i still dont know about grins yet)but wow the more people just keep jumping on. well i just have no clue now who is innocent and who is evil.

am i able to no vote??? i dont want to be the nail in the coffin so to speak and i just cant deside

If you are evil, don't vote. It'll make it easier for you.

 

[catfish69hunter]

If you are evil, don't vote. It'll make it easier for you.

if you think it makes me evil because i dont want to make a mistake that may take out one of my fellow townies thats fine but you pushing me to vote for some one makes me suspisous of you that would be just like an evil to press some one to vote. so now i must deside

 

[jpappy789]

if you think it makes me evil because i dont want to make a mistake that may take out one of my fellow townies thats fine but you pushing me to vote for some one makes me suspisous of you that would be just like an evil to press some one to vote. so now i must deside

I think Hn was saying that IF you are evil dont vote so you UD.

 

[catfish69hunter]

I think Hn was saying that IF you are evil dont vote so you UD.

i see but in the rules if i say my vote is for no one then i dont die?? am i reading that right??

 

[Hooked Newbie]

if you think it makes me evil because i dont want to make a mistake that may take out one of my fellow townies thats fine but you pushing me to vote for some one makes me suspisous of you that would be just like an evil to press some one to vote. so now i must deside

I'm not pushing you to vote for anyone.

I think Hn was saying that IF you are evil dont vote so you UD.

Ding, ding!

i see but in the rules if i say my vote is for no one then i dont die?? am i reading that right??

If you're evil you can get away with not voting. REALLY... :Angel: