Mafia #33 - Bruce Campbell Vs. Army of Darkness

plantling said:
HN, Hooked, Newbie, Noobie, NB, Huggy Bear, same difference. :lipssealedsmilie:
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LOL... you left out hk and now Chill added "Baby Face" (which at my age, I kinda like!)

I'm still trying to get my head around last night. I don't see Rb tying it as EA, but I don't know why the *&^% he did that right before night. I still see Jensons as the best suspect, but I want to wait to see what Rb says and how others react now that there's another.
 
plantling said:
Wow, I'm still trying to make sense of things. Please feel free to correct any mistakes, but this is the scenario I got:

Votes were at 3 Jens, 2 RB, 4 Chill, 3 G, 1 JM, 1 Dawg
RB switches from Chill to JM making a 3 way tie between Jensons, Chill, G. (sets tie)
G votes RB but doesn't retract.
Hooked switches from Chill to G making it 2 Jens, 3 Chill, 4 G. (breaks tie)
Dawg switches from G to RB making it 2 Jens, 3 RB, 3 Chill, 3 G. (sets tie)
Hooked switches from G to Jensons making it 3 Jens, 3 RB, 3 Chill, 2 G. (keeps tie)
G switches from Jens to RB making it 2 Jens, 4 RB, 3 Chill, 2 G. (breaks tie)
And lastly G switches from RB back to Jens making it 3 Jens, 3 RB, 3 Chill, 2 G. (sets tie)

I'm still trying to decide if RB set the tie because he just plain likes ties as has been seen the previous night and past games even when innocent and a pr. If he was innocent (could have been turned) then maybe he wanted to see who would move their vote around. Or maybe he believed nobody up for votes was EA. OR he is EA and wanted to appear to be saving Chill and/or cause chaos. But I can't understand why he'd risk himself appearing Scummy when he could have just laid back and let Chill be lynched especially if he wanted to turn JM who was in no danger of being lynched.

And Hooked seemed to be doing the right thing by breaking the tie and giving the Town a chance though small of getting rid of an evil. But it could also be that if he was the EA he wanted an Innocent to be lynched as this is a scorched earth format. But would he take the chance to be the nail in the coffin of an innocent?

Both Dawg and Lady G have me confused on their voting. Both tied up the votes at some point. However Dawg seemed genuinely surprised that others had switched their votes. G on the other hand seemed to jump haphazardly around. She actually broke the tie then followed HN back onto Jensons. Almost seemed like she didn't wanna be the kill vote on anyone.

So my suspicions are still on G and to a lesser extent RB and HN.
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Plant all I can tell you is...I freaked out when RB did that, with no explanation and I really did NOT want the night to end in a tie. Yes, I realize I ended up causing one...but at the time, with everything that was going on...I lost track of where the votes actually were, and I thought when HN moved his vote..by moving mine back Jensons was the one going to be lynched. I know this probably doesn't help in any because you may not believe me...but it is the way it happened.
 
plantling said:
Both Dawg and Lady G have me confused on their voting. Both tied up the votes at some point. However Dawg seemed genuinely surprised that others had switched their votes. G on the other hand seemed to jump haphazardly around. She actually broke the tie then followed HN back onto Jensons. Almost seemed like she didn't wanna be the kill vote on anyone.

So my suspicions are still on G and to a lesser extent RB and HN.
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Here's my train of thought when I was voting last night in case it helps anyone. I had LG pegged as EA. So obviously my vote was on her. After rereading some posts I started to have some doubts, which I posted about before my final vote. I saw LG jump to RB (Not knowing it wasn't a real vote - it all happened so fast) and I knew if I went to RB he would be lynched. In my mind it was a 50/50 either RB or LG. But since I was starting to doubt my vote on LG I figured take out RB and if he turned out innocent I would go after LG the next day. Then everyone changed their votes :wall: and I figured the best thing to do would be to keep mine where it was rather than flip flop and cause more confusion.

So basically we didn't learn a whole lot last night and that is not sitting well with me this morning.
 
I have to say...at this point, I just do not know what I think. I still feel something with Jensons, but if she is EA then RB can't be. RB throwing so much confusion out I just don't get it. Then who he voted on made no sense at all, because he had earlier stated he pretty much had her as innocent. So, why of ALL people playing pick one of the 2 ppl you have already put down as innocent in your mind.
 
Chill said:
I do have to sleep sometime. This post was at 1:06 my time and I was all snug in bed.

I tend to think you can learn stuff without lynching people. I don't think RB is the big E. He tried to force a tie on night 1 also, and we all know Cat was evil that night.

I don't think you were evil last night either or I would have switched my vote to you. Also if you were evil you could have switched your vote to me and gone the easy route. Have you been turned since? I don't know.

My thoughts at the moment are the big E is someone who all ready had a vote in on me or else they would have switched to me and broke the tie.

My feeling yesteday was that the big E was a low poster. I still tend to believe that. When Jens raised her head late to vote for me she clicked on my radar as a likely suspect. Keep low and pop up at the end to vote on the person with the most votes is not a bad strategy for flying under the radar. At that point though her hand is played and she can't vote for me again when RB changes his vote. She's still a good suspect in my book.

At this point my main suspect is Jensons
suspicions on NB with you as his turn
and sadly dawg (but that's along shot I elaborate on later)

for now I vote to lynch Jensons. I reserve the right to change my vote as more information comes to light.
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LMAO!! I know you have to sleep Chill, and I didn't mean why weren't you on right then...I just wondered why your only statement after the night fall we had, then nothing else...no other thoughts at all. That was all I was getting at.
 
Two major things from last night that don't feel right to me.

At 8:33pm RB ties up the game. Then in the next 27 minutes RB never chimes in to back up his vote change.

Even more disturbing at this point is that when I changed my vote to RB, after I thought LG voted for him and HN expressed interest in voting for RB neither of them ultimately went to RB after I switched my vote there. Why waste my vote? I was trying to put the vote over the top on RB. Why not keep your votes on RB? I understand it seemed to go by quicker than it looks on paper, believe me my adrenaline was rushing. Can HN and LG please elaborate on this??
 
I would like to atleast see what rb has to say about all of this. Until he states what he was thinking and why in the world he voted for JM and not any of the leading vote getters, my vote stays. I can't think of a reason for any of this and there also seems to be a slight push to excuse it, because rb just likes to tie things up. In this game ties mean no lynch. Might as well voted no one rb.

There is no excuse for this, rb knew what a tie would mean.

I am okay with lynching any (and all) of the late minute vote changers, starting with rb.
 
dirtydawg10 said:
Two major things from last night that don't feel right to me.

At 8:33pm RB ties up the game. Then in the next 27 minutes RB never chimes in to back up his vote change.

Even more disturbing at this point is that when I changed my vote to RB, after I thought LG voted for him and HN expressed interest in voting for RB neither of them ultimately went to RB after I switched my vote there. Why waste my vote? I was trying to put the vote over the top on RB. Why not keep your votes on RB? I understand it seemed to go by quicker than it looks on paper, believe me my adrenaline was rushing. Can HN and LG please elaborate on this??
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Simply I freaked at the time, I have said this a few times now Dawg. When I first switched, I really didn't realize I hadn't "retracted" and that it didn't count. I did not want the night to end in a tie. When HN, switched to me, I figured I was the one going but at least it wasn't going to be a tie, then when Hooked switched to Jensons, in the end when I switched to Jensons, I THOUGHT it was making her the lead vote getter.

Actually, now that I think about it more, I wonder if RB was trying to get me to come off Jensons and on to Chill to save myself.
 
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