Mafia 38 "the revenge"

[Chill]

Actually NJ I tend to vote my convictions. I think Jpap is mafia so I vote for him. Everyone else reads the same posts I read so to me it should be obvious. I'll spare everyone the cape tonight. As for defending myself it's kind of damned if you do and damned if you don't. The more you defend the more guilty you look. I have no problem being lynched if that what people decide, but No I'm not tired of the game it's actually just starting to pickup.

 

[Hooked Newbie]

I vote to lynch Z.

For now, because I don't see why mafia would vote mafia and tip the scale over to a lynch, when there were other ties available. (Although that could change because it's still possible the other faction's success was the motive here.) Chill is no. 2 on my list. Everyone else feeling strongly about his guilt is certainly reason to look up and take notice.

Ogre is number 3 on my list, having to do with yesterday's remarks. Were they just talking to talk? If so, if conjecture, like I like to talk to myself as well, then that's not reason enough to vote. We don't vote people out for talking the most (anymore.) That being said - much of what he said, I didn't really like! *lol*

DD is no. 4 on my list, but she always is. I find her vague, below the surface, punctuated by strong remarks/accusations and normally defensive. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure her normal routine is to wait and wait, find someone who's a bit under pressure by other people and add her consensus to it. And then when someone question's it, to become defensive and make them her vote, etc. It seems less proactive to find the guilty parties, and more wait-and-see and get nervous when someone turns their eye on her. (Which is why I anticipate a strong defense soon. *lol*)

Z, I think you are a great player. I swear, if I was a Mafia in damage control, I would definitely type up your response to a "hey great, we got one! Now what..." and then follow it by a though out list that wasn't explained with much detail. It's because of that, that I'm voting tonight. I think certain parties weren't wrong about you. I have nothing but "what would I do if that happened to me" word-wise, and timing wise to go on. (But that's actually more to go on then I had with RB, and ended up being right, thank goodness.) But I'm not the only one to wonder, so I don't think I'm totally offbase here.

I know who has been wanting to see you lynched though, in addition to my thoughts on being guilty. If that person was to end up being wrong... I would have to wonder about them.

And Chill... you always just sort of throw in the towel. If it were me, I'd be laying out Evidence No. 1-10 as to why other people are better candidates for a vote, why you feel you're being rolled, etc. Defend yourself man. *lol* Those posts have not given me much reason not to vote for you, and the only reason I'm not at this point is because the timing and words used by someone else fall into more mafia-talk. But you look so guilty when you don't even try?

Again, we aren't teamed. But I do tend to feel bad for the underdog. Why do you let everyone just pack the votes on and accept your fate? *lol* Maybe you're tired of the game. Or maybe their right, it looks a little that way.

Ok, I won't go back and reedit my post, but you actually did at least point out others that we should be looking at, other than you. So I'll give you credit there, and tell the "jury" to disregard my previous statement about mounting a more creditable defense.

Wow... you saw that Chill had in fact pointed others out and posted within one minute? That's a pretty quick turnaround.

 

[ZSandmann]

OK, Skimmy McSkimmer, did you bother to read this?
http://www.aquariacentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1532091&postcount=188

HA!

I did read that, but this vote is for Today (Day 2). You did not vote on Day 1, which is the day I was synopsizing.

(Ha Ha - Two times)

 

[ZSandmann]

Ok here Hooked agreed that it was a mistake worth jumping on that he himself would have done in turn to someone else.



So Z I jump on something that Hooked says himself that he would jump on. It was about 15-20 min after he posted and I jumped on it too fast?

I think your jumping on something to throw suspicion on me for it. In my mind that makes you up there with Hooked right now and yea maybe more than him. I feel the more I think about it that yes it was a mistake and yes anyone can make it. But it did provide the crowd with something to get moving on and its a suprize who jumped where.

Too late for damage control my friend the narwhal. I do find it funny that you will now lump me and HN. I think it was clearly a mistake on his part, and I don't see how or why a Mafia would slip in that way. Plus I agree the way Night fell anyone could have missed it. So :silly:

 

[ZSandmann]

Sigh, I feel I am not communicationg my thoughts well enough or something. NJ I want to believe you are innocent, no I THINK you ARE innocent but you are baffling me by agreeing with me but then saying that that makes me look mafia. I am not. But I don't want to dwell on it too much right now because there are fish to fry.

I think that the majority is making a mistake voting to lunch Chill. I am almost positive he is not New School, and while he could be Old School I am not sold on that. He broke the tie that lynched RB. Otherwise it would have been even between BKW and RB. So if he were Old School then BKW is certainly not Old School.

I think Narwhals actions warrent a vote. My vote will stand.

(I always feel like Vizzini from Princess Bride after one of these logic discussions)

 

[jpappy789]

Ok, I just want folks to remember how many times I have been Mafia as of yet. The last time I was Innocent was the game I missed the beginning (much like this one, lol) and was voted out by the town on Day 1. I don't want that to happen again. On Day 1 I got in late and decided i would lay back to try and slip past being hit or lynched right out of the gate. Success so far. But now I am here to win it and you can bet if you are Mafia I am going to sniff you out so get me if you can.

If the Detective is going to consider investigating me, please wait till after today as I want at least one other person to be totally sure of me. If I were the other Don my cover would be gone after tonight.

So all formality out of the way, I believe Narwhal is the New School Henchman.

I am thinking about the Old School now.

This seems like a run-around "I'm innocent" play.

You are looking at it backwards pappy and that is probably my fault for the way I worded it. My point was to exclude the ones I did not think could be on RBs team and therefore narrow the suspects.

The list that matters is NJ, BKW, Me, and maybe Chill. The reasoning being that in a two team game we all have a 33% chance of being Innocent. If we can remove the possibility of being on one Mafia team that person is now 66% Innocent and moves from "Likely Mafia" to "Likely Innocent".

Example: I now believe that NeonJulie is "Likely an Innocent"

Did I explain that better to you?

Then why not just say, I think so-and-so is more likely to be innocent because of what happened? You threw out quite a lot of names without any reason other than to say, here are the people that could be teamed up with Rb, now take your pick.

Well there was a bit more to read today which is good but looks like people are milling around the hotdog stand with rope in their hands which is bad.



Ogre this doesn't make a lot of sense to me. I guess you're accusing me of being the other school cause breaking a tie and sealing the deal on your Don, would be a bit much to establish a cover.

Let me restate once again there were two reasons I suspected RB, his style of play was different and he and Jpap seemed to be working together. Jpap was certainly doing his damnest to defend RB. Which to me makes him a loyal henchman. My vote remains on J.

I'm not sure on the old school mob. Ogre raises my suspicions but he always does and I am ussually wrong. Hooked seems to be making a few mistakes which seems out of charachter. The last was voting on Narwhal without retracting his vote on me. Maybe he blowing smoke as a cover here? Narwhal also makes me wonder. I think this is Fire and I'm pretty sure she hinted at this with the scoop thing. If it is her style seems different as well.
Could be a hooked/narwhal team. Z also seems to be going over the same ground and explaining things a bit too much. Pretty broad list I know probably alienated enough people to seal my fate. Bottom line is I haven't much clue on the old school. I'm pretty sure J is the remainder of the new school though.

When did I ever defend Rb? I challenged Bkw's and DD's reasons for voting. I only said that I didn't see what they saw, and I still don't. I do not remember saying that I thought Rb was innocent until today, after he turned out mafia. And that was mainly because I saw the people railroading him as more suspect.

And I am not one to defend teammates unless I am desperate, and that is usually towards the end of the day. I'm sure both DD and Bkw can back me up on this when I say that I don't hesitate to throw evil henchmen under the bus to clear myself.

I have to leave for a bit and am not sure if I will get back for night... I need to place my vote and because I don't see anything worth changing my mind, I will have to go with pappy. He's at the top of my list and the most suspicious in my book... yes, even though there are 2 teams, and the doc and all, I still want to vote you, pap... sorry

I vote to lynch pappy

No need to apologize DD. But if (when) I die and I turn up innocent, you can repay me by turning yourself and your team in. :grinyes:

I am less sure of my chill vote, only because I am really banking on him being opposite RB. Low chance, but just about as good as any at this point. Also, moving would mean I would have to move to another person on the leader board (else myself give up to the lynching) and I'm not at all comfortable voting those people. The only one I would consider voting for is narwhal at this point, but it would still be a shot in the dark from my standpoint.

 

[OgreMkV]

Chill, I'm accusing you of killing off your own don, so as to reduce suspicion on yourself. A classic mafia move.

 

[jpappy789]

hmmm...post 236, my last one. Should say "end of the game" not day.

 

[Hooked Newbie]

Anyone have a vote count by chance? (Dang Mods).

I'm starting to second guess second guessing my vote on Narwhal.

 

[Chill]

Chill, I'm accusing you of killing off your own don, so as to reduce suspicion on yourself. A classic mafia move.

That actually made me laugh. Thanks. It may be a classic mafia move, I will admit I can't always follow the "logic" this game follows, but killing off your teammates makes no sense to me. If I was with RB my vote would have stayed where it was - I wouldn't have sealed his fate especially not on night 1. If you were anyone else I would say you were mafia for sure but I've seen you take equally nonsensical positions before while innocent.