Mafia #41 The Play -- 50/50

[Dangerdoll]

ok, I had a mod meeting for a large part of the night and took a carpet out for bulky clean up in town... and now here I am and have come up with a few things that seem to bother me.

When I first saw this post it made me wonder but at the time there was nothing really worth pointing out. But now that we know the roles of 2 of the players I had to bring it back up.

Dawg choosing Driver over Noodles, could be him protecting Noodles as he was the kill vote on Driver. At the time I was thinking he was naming Driver as a ploy to say look I got me a mafia,I must be innocent.

Then he was sure enough of MC to lean them innocent. If anything I've learned in this game you can't lean someone innocent on Day 1. If you think someone might be innocent why would you say it on Day 1? Might end up tying you to a mafia if they turn out to be mafia. The only reason you might slip and say they are innocent is if you know they are.
I was also surprised to see that he didn't comment on DDs post about the list. I had in the post that didn't show but you'll need to take my word for it.Just caught me as strange that he didn't comment on DD jumping on it.

I have till tomorrow to make a decision and plan on taking that time to do it.But if I were to vote right now it would most likely be for Dawg. Again DD would be my 2nd choice.

I don't know about Noodles, I can see cases both ways on her. She hasn't really done anything IMO to warrant a vote except going back and forth with Driver but IMO it wasn't to try and get him lynched.

Ice, here you think Dawg of trying to toss Driver under the bus as mafia on day 1, you even voted for driver and pretty much got the ball rolling on him.

Yeah Noodles why'd you leave me off? You trying to set me up?

Dawg I wouldn't worry about me voting you. At this point I'm just fishing for answers. If it makes me look bad so be it, I really don't care to be playing at this point. The innocents get an investigation tonight. If I play strange enough to get investigated but not lynched or hit they'll see I'm innocent and at this point is all that matters.

I really don't know who to vote for but Noodles leaving me off her list smells like a setup to me. The heat is on her and I could see them leaving a name off the list hoping the town would see that as protection.

That being said I also would like to put a knot in the noose.

I vote to lynch Noodles.

here you vote noodles and even say you want to be the one to put a knot in the noose...

First off I retract my vote to lynch Noodles

The long train on Noodles can't be good. No mafia team is going to throw in the towel on a mate this early into the game. I think they were both innocents and the mafia got lucky and had a horse race between the 2. One gets lynched so the other goes the following day because of course if we lynch an innocent the other must be mafia.

Using this theory Plants tie vote and Dawgs kill vote get my attention. Add to that Plants take charge pretty sure of herself attitude at this point makes me think she herself is a communicating mafia along with Dawg and DD.

I vote to lynch Dawg.

you retract here saying the rush to noodles scares you

The reason I chose Dawg is because even though he voted me 1st I brought him up 1st so if anything his vote is OMGUS.

2ndly he doesn't seem to care if I'm a dead innocent because I'm not helping the town,same with Plant.

3rd I've seen Dawgs name tossed around, I don't think at this time I could convince enough players to jump to Plant or DD.

I haven't seen anything by Noodles to show mafia. If others feel like pointing it out in the next couple of hours I might go back.But my vote this morning was nothing but another fishing expedition.

now you say you see nothing on noodles to make her mafia...

why such the contrast in opinions, Ice?

another thought is that if the communicating mafia chose you for their investigation, and there would be no doubt in my mind that they would, you have now made it to their team. Yes, this is only if you were not one of the communicators but it seems something has changed.

 

[Lady G]

For now I vote to lynch LG

Theres just something about her posts. She is very non committal to anyone. Thought Noodles was innocent but wouldn't try to save her.

If she thought Noodles was innocent why not push for Cnote or me? Instead she just sat back and watched the train pile onto Noodles. Mind you she did comment she didn't feel comfortable with the piling on so quickly to Noodles but she did nothing really to curb it from happening.

Again guys, if you want me dead you have the hit tonight. Don't let the mafia control the game by lynching me and not forcing them out.

What exactly did you expect me to do? My vote was where I thought it should be, it stayed...I never said I thought for sure she was innocent, I did say I didn't like how the pile was on her...that rarely turns out in our favor. Talk about non-committal, what did we have from you 3 posts until Noodles was about to go down...then you sure jumped out with the posts didn't you...why was that Ice?

 

[dirtydawg10]

How could you? - those conversations took place offline. Which makes me wonder what Ice thought he was going to be able to dig up?

Dawg may have some recollection - it'll be curious how he weighs in.

Well for what it's worth...from what I remember LG and Chill are right. Chill was last on and I'm not sure what advice exchanged hands. I don't know what the relevance is to this game though.

 

[Rbishop]

thru #433..

to lynch....

judge (2) cnote 386 zsand 401

ice (1) chill 392

chill (1) dawg 409

lady (1) Ice 426


five of 9 players have voted.....

Nightfall for Day 3 is at 9 PM EST tonight....

 

[IceH2O]

ok, I had a mod meeting for a large part of the night and took a carpet out for bulky clean up in town... and now here I am and have come up with a few things that seem to bother me.

Ice, here you think Dawg of trying to toss Driver under the bus as mafia on day 1, you even voted for driver and pretty much got the ball rolling on him.


here you vote noodles and even say you want to be the one to put a knot in the noose...


you retract here saying the rush to noodles scares you


now you say you see nothing on noodles to make her mafia...

why such the contrast in opinions, Ice?

another thought is that if the communicating mafia chose you for their investigation, and there would be no doubt in my mind that they would, you have now made it to their team. Yes, this is only if you were not one of the communicators but it seems something has changed.

I thought Noddles was setting me up by leaving my name off her list. I'm going to have to go back and see who noticed and pointed it out.They might be a team mate. After seeing the rush onto Noodles I got worried and pulled off and thinking she was innocent tried to save her. Again,there is no reason for me to have saved her if we were team mates.If you could give a good reason for saving a team mate this early in the game with the numbers the mafia have I'd love to hear it.

What exactly did you expect me to do? My vote was where I thought it should be, it stayed...I never said I thought for sure she was innocent, I did say I didn't like how the pile was on her...that rarely turns out in our favor. Talk about non-committal, what did we have from you 3 posts until Noodles was about to go down...then you sure jumped out with the posts didn't you...why was that Ice?

You could have built a case? You could have tried to convince others to jump to Cnote? You didn't try to move anyone off Noodles at all except to say blah blah blah.

I don't know if she was CM or NonCM, I just think you didn't want to risk saving her,which is a good plan.

I think I'd take Cnote off my list and add DD.With LG after Cnote I don't think they are team mates and the past 2 days it seems like LG and DD together are trying to hard to keep the finger pointed at me. Just don't know why they haven't placed their votes on me. They're so against me being hit you'd think they'd pile on and be the ones to administer the lethal injection.

 

[Lady G]

I thought Noddles was setting me up by leaving my name off her list. I'm going to have to go back and see who noticed and pointed it out.They might be a team mate. After seeing the rush onto Noodles I got worried and pulled off and thinking she was innocent tried to save her. Again,there is no reason for me to have saved her if we were team mates.If you could give a good reason for saving a team mate this early in the game with the numbers the mafia have I'd love to hear it.



You could have built a case? You could have tried to convince others to jump to Cnote? You didn't try to move anyone off Noodles at all except to say blah blah blah.

I don't know if she was CM or NonCM, I just think you didn't want to risk saving her,which is a good plan.

I think I'd take Cnote off my list and add DD.With LG after Cnote I don't think they are team mates and the past 2 days it seems like LG and DD together are trying to hard to keep the finger pointed at me. Just don't know why they haven't placed their votes on me. They're so against me being hit you'd think they'd pile on and be the ones to administer the lethal injection.

I haven't quite decided Ice what I think of you really..I keep going back and forth with were you actually set up, or are you just playing my mind..so no I haven't placed my vote there just yet. Plus I am very wary of Chill and his vote is on you so that makes me uncomfortable.

As far as being against you being hit..well I just find it very odd that you would ask to be hit if you are innocent..that was one of the biggest reasons I started looking into you. You are correct in the fact I didn't want to risk saving Noodles..why would I put myself so out there for someone I was unsure of?

Well, in case something happens I am not able to be on later..I vote to lynch Jmax.

 

[Dangerdoll]

how very interesting how I am this high on your "suspected" list when I question your actions about Noodles, Ice. I guess now I am expecting to go just as Plant did....I won't be surprised... or did I just ruin that for you?

You say you don't blame people for considering that you may be mafia yet when someone talks about it or comes up with things to question, you go throwing around OMGUS accusations. Not too clever... you must be off your game.

What difference does a hit or lynch get you. Either way, you're gone... whether it was townies that got you out or the CI's. Both ways, same result. Not really sure what the big hub-bub is.

G... I see you have voted to lynch Judge. What's your reason? I mean, I guess she could be mafia but is it that you and Ice are trying to distance yourselves from her because she is such a "silent partner"?

Me, I guess I will vote Ice.
There wasn't really a reason to hold onto the vote Ice, just waiting to see if there was anyone else more clearly mafia.... not yet... maybe G but no more than you, that is. Nice touch with the poison though.... and even here you try to separate yourself from G... nice

I vote to lynch Ice

 

[Chill]

Well for what it's worth...from what I remember LG and Chill are right. Chill was last on and I'm not sure what advice exchanged hands. I don't know what the relevance is to this game though.

The only relevance really was Ice suggested I was keeping quiet as a result of advice he had given me in that game. I don't remember the advice and it looks like he might have mixed the two of us up.

You've accused me of being quieter than usual this game which is kind of ironic given your lower than normal post count. Any reason you're not more talkative this go round?

 

[Lady G]

how very interesting how I am this high on your "suspected" list when I question your actions about Noodles, Ice. I guess now I am expecting to go just as Plant did....I won't be surprised... or did I just ruin that for you?

You say you don't blame people for considering that you may be mafia yet when someone talks about it or comes up with things to question, you go throwing around OMGUS accusations. Not too clever... you must be off your game.

What difference does a hit or lynch get you. Either way, you're gone... whether it was townies that got you out or the CI's. Both ways, same result. Not really sure what the big hub-bub is.

G... I see you have voted to lynch Judge. What's your reason? I mean, I guess she could be mafia but is it that you and Ice are trying to distance yourselves from her because she is such a "silent partner"?

Me, I guess I will vote Ice.
There wasn't really a reason to hold onto the vote Ice, just waiting to see if there was anyone else more clearly mafia.... not yet... maybe G but no more than you, that is. Nice touch with the poison though.... and even here you try to separate yourself from G... nice

I vote to lynch Ice

Naw, not really DD..in fact I retract my vote on Jmax and vote to lynch Ice
really, though I can see Jmax as Mafia when she first come on all gun hoe I thought ahhhh theres the Mafia Jmax I've come to know and love..then she got all quiet again and it worried me more, the "sorry Noodles" thing really got me...but in the end, Ice is the one standing out the most...he was sooooo quiet until Noodles was going down, then he come out posting like crazy trying to get others to come off her, then turns around when she shows mafia trying to make it look as if I thought she was innocent but didn't try to save her and this is a reason for me to be mafia? Whatever Ice, you know better then that. If I knew her to be mafia and I was mafia...ya'll know I will take a bullet to save one of my own, and if I felt without a doubt she was innocent, I'd of done just the same, as I did a few games back when I was communicating innocent and one of my own looked as if they were going down..I came out posting trying to make other look the other way in the end I was taken out..but she was saved.

 

[Malbri]

No slacking at all Ice....just not enough votes to track...

That sounded a bit defensive, mafia.
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