Mafia #44 Christmas At ACville

Clarification.....

When the recipient of a gift ackowledges they have it, I will announce in the thread that "a present has been delivered to XXXXXX"


2 hours before the next night fall....I will announce whether they chose to open it or not....

After nightfall, I will say to who and what the gift was, or the actions of the gift...
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Plant my thought is this. Since you desided to come out with this statement. You now have a present in your possesion. If you open it youll either have an extra vote for someone we believe to be evil or you will be turned. If you kill an innocent yes we would lose a second one to your turning but if you are turn depending on the order of nightfall you may be turned back.
I chose not to open it already. Not sure if RB will let me recant that but I will pm him and also whether the effects of the present would take place b4 or after nighttime events.

Thanks for the vote but I guess I was right last night. You were waiting for someone to vote for me first so you wouldn't look so bad when I come up innocent. I don't mind the votes because with all the crap that has gone on in here over the last 12 hrs it will greatly help the town to find out what I am.

Even if you are Blitzen you could already be evil if you sent your coal last night to the wrong person. This will be an interesting nightfall. I don't have any issue voting for JL but I would like to see a lot more input from Cat right now because the Town is very confused. I'm not sure if he can help us or not but hopefully two innocent brains working together can come up with something.
Piggy already voted you before Mad did. I didn't quote it but what made me vote you and not JL was when I wanted to talk about the votes on DD and you brushed it off saying something like nobody knew who DD was not even JP. Reminded me a little of what Noodles said about her votes.


I don't know...I was wondering if RB would anounce delivery of the coal too. He did with the present so maybe.
RB usually announces things like that.
 
I have to say that this game is getting more and more confusing for me to figure out who is who. I know I know I sound evil for saying that and playing the confused card...well bite me because you'll find out what the truth is eventually.

I won't change my vote for Piggy unless somehow they come up a confirmed innocent. I also don't expect people to not vote for me because as I have said before I would be voting for me if I was you. I am however voting how DD voted because I think she knew something. She was the only one on the innocent team who could have known except of course for the 3 comm innocents.

I keep going back and forth between JL and Plant and keep wondering if the innocents are just taking eachother out because we are the ones talking. What if we have some evils just sitting back throwing jabs when the openings come and letting us wear ourselves out. I go through the combinations of people who could be a team and could be just sitting back waiting for us to lynch ourselves.

I can see HN as an evil playing a good game and the same goes for Sploke. They are both being somewhat helpful but not putting themselves out there to much. They pop in give a few words of wisdom to appear helpful and then disappear again and play with their Wii or something. I just hope we're not all barking up the wrong trees. I just hope for the Town's sake we that Blitzen (Plant?) doesn't take out Rudolph with the coal or we could be in deep doodoo.
 
ok vote count (correct me if i missed anything)

dawg - plant 898, mad 894
piggy - HN 887, fire 870, dawg 769
plant - JL 871

I vote to lynch dawg

Here is my reason - I think we have a decently active but clever mafia team this time. I believe plant that she is blitzen. if so, she is innocent for counting purposes, which means she obviously thinks dawg is evil..unless she was already turned but i think we could have gotten some indication of that. his whole self sacrifice thing was a line of BS i think. so, if we get an elf tonight, we can trade one for one with them, unless plant gets lucky and gives the coal to the same person the mafia hits. if so, we keep her as a confirmed innocent, or if someone else dies and she is still here, we have a confirmed lynch for tomorrow night.
 
this could also tell us something about mad, if dawg turns out to be evil, depending on what happens with his vote. I feel like we can potentially get some decent information tonight.
 
i probably won't be on again tonight, so in case i get hit by the stupid elves, my top three right now are dawg, JL and piggy. and plant if she is still here in place of no one else.
 
well looks like no one is going to comment before i leave, so..fingers crossed, and i'll catch back up when i get home tonight.
 
ok vote count (correct me if i missed anything)

dawg - plant 898, mad 894
piggy - HN 887, fire 870, dawg 769
plant - JL 871

I vote to lynch dawg

Here is my reason - I think we have a decently active but clever mafia team this time. I believe plant that she is blitzen. if so, she is innocent for counting purposes, which means she obviously thinks dawg is evil..unless she was already turned but i think we could have gotten some indication of that. his whole self sacrifice thing was a line of BS i think. so, if we get an elf tonight, we can trade one for one with them, unless plant gets lucky and gives the coal to the same person the mafia hits. if so, we keep her as a confirmed innocent, or if someone else dies and she is still here, we have a confirmed lynch for tomorrow night.

You missed Piggy's vote on me on post 842 I think. So that makes you the tiebreaker if your other votes are correct. Thanks for the kill vote. I only wish this would have happened before Plant sent the coal out. She could have gave me the coal and you could have lynched me.

Some people are going to be looking pretty bad after tonights lynch I'm sorry to inform you.
 
Note this is everyones top 3 suspects after I came out. Also I have removed comments to shorten this post.
I can see that. I'd have to say my top 3 right now would be...

1. piggy
2. Dawg
3. Plant
3. Sploke

Here's my top 3...

1. Piggy
2. Plant
3. JL

1. Piggy
2. Plant
3. Fire

1)Dawg
2) JL
3)plant

As far as my list of top 3 at this point:

1. Dawg
2. Piggy
3. No firm 3rd here:
- Sploke
- JL

Ok I want everyone to look at this list of who has who at their top 3. Everyone look at this list and tell me what you see.
 
Mad, what do you think of plant?

something that bothers me is that planting has gone from nobody's real suspect, but now that mentioned by Cat, is starting to appear on a lot of lists. I think it may be a possibility that some folks may be trying to stroke Cat, a little.

Plantling is always one to watch, but she did help catch noodles. Obviously that doesn't clear her as noodles was 'rogue', but it does look like she may be looking for scum. I certainly like other candidates before her...

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Here's the thing, guys in order for Blitzen to have turned evil, they would needed to have already killed scum with their coal. No players have been killed, so if plantling is Blitzen, as claimed, she hasn't switched sides. Seems like you're really trying to confuse the issue here.

Even if you are Blitzen you could already be evil if you sent your coal last night to the wrong person. This will be an interesting nightfall. I don't have any issue voting for JL but I would like to see a lot more input from Cat right now because the Town is very confused. I'm not sure if he can help us or not but hopefully two innocent brains working together can come up with something.


crap i didn't think of that. would RB have posted it if the coal had gone through? something like, "Blitzen delivers the coal, and the evil elves descend and make them one of their own", enough to know that it had been done without giving any names away?
 
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