Mafia 46: In the Dark

[mostlycichlids]

Could just be a layout issue, but the bottom of this quote has stuff in white which I missed at first reading

Yes a layout issue indeed...Was late and I was copying and pastindg to remember stuff berofe I posted.

I would still like to hear more about this mafia tell Ogre has on a player and what player he thinks it is.

I could have missed it. I have seen where it could be Coler or ZSandmann.

The mafia tell is much more important than the name of the player.

Also of concern is where MC proclaims DD as being innocent. I will quote it.

What is the concern? I don't get it It was just a guess to this point...She has not been playing like mafia typically do.

I am not sure who to vote for at this point...I am going to throw a random vote out. I VOTE TO LYNCH LUCKYDUD13http://www.aquariacentral.com/forums/member.php?u=87780

 

[Dangerdoll]

And the train forms on gunslinger.

My top two candidates are now noods and rich. Reason: forming a train on gunslinger.

I wanted to see if anyone would jump if I indicated that I might vote gun and some did. Very interesting.

Actually, Ogre, I see it as you sort of baited people to vote on guns. Call it the way you put your explanations.... I pretty much saw you saying "look everyone, the train is forming on Mael... no one's on Guns but he's the more guilty party... vote him and I wont accuse you of the train".... no, it's not exacly what you said, but it's how I saw it...

I am having a hard time though, I have my sights on you, Guns, and Mael... I can't figure out yet if you are a communicating innocent though, you seem to be pretty confident in your posts... I just don't know which end that would put you on, the mafia or innocent. I do want my vote to count though tonight so it looks like I will be going with Guns... I am more bothered on Guns being a big bully than I am at Mael for not answering a question in "exact wording" that went on for pages....

I vote to lynch Gunslinger

Could just be a layout issue, but the bottom of this quote has stuff in white which I missed at first reading

I believe the white lettering was changed to white because he has a dark background for AC as a site.... not sure why he wanted to highlight the post but anyone with the default background (the light) may miss it...

 

[mostlycichlids]

Yep I use the AC 2k8 Grey!

 

[cjtabares]

And the train forms on gunslinger.

My top two candidates are now noods and rich. Reason: forming a train on gunslinger.

I wanted to see if anyone would jump if I indicated that I might vote gun and some did. Very interesting.

I have a question about this, If noods or rich were mafia why would they want to start a train on Gunslinger unless their other team member was Maelstron?

 

[Dangerdoll]

After catching up on the 10 plus pages sense I posted last and the vote counts...I have came to some conclusions...BTW I have been busy and not able to post much.

Here it goes....
mael seems to be defensive and not give too much reasoning besides impulse for his posts and actions...Mofia possible but I think he is protecting his innocence more than anything...not a threat IMO.

dawg has some good points as to cnote being suspicious to me this post says you are Mafia

Noodles, well is just noodles last game I played with her had about the same gravity...I would suspect Innocent...

DangerDoll is innocent as they come.

Gunslinger I am unsure of but my GUESS would be Mafia [AC] players are suspicious in a way.
LG hasn't posted a whole lot, Would guess innocent.

the rest I wont comment on as I forgot about what a lot of their posts were about.
That is my take and 2 cents on things.

ah, here's the post... I changed the color so the whole post can be seen. I have the text colored red and blue because the post was colored black and white originally... which struck me as odd...
so I notice that the text I have colored red and blue, is also made larger... which takes additional effort...

MC, care to explain the artwork? If this is just a list of your thoughts, why did you color these ones and why the different colors... oh and why the bigger text? I don't see why these are more imortant than the rest of the list... or is it?

 

[[AC] maelstrom]

Well as the lynch leader I am inclined to stand back for a bitl If you guys think my posting is scummy I am not going to repeat what I've said already as to why it is not. For me, it rings true. The main thing is that we have had some information on day 1 for a change.

 

[[AC] maelstrom]

Oh yeah, that and mafia in the minority like day 1 here tend to hide their votes on throw away non lynch candidates, so they can't be blamed for an innocent lynch, or on each other, so later in the game they can claim to have always been on such and such when that person is outed.

 

[[AC] Gunslinger]

Gunslinger this makes me think you might be Mafia and DD might be innocent...

So what in that post makes you think that way? Quoting a post and saying "see lookey here" doesn't mean anything...

Check my reply to Lady G. The clue is that the quote says "originally posted by Ice" and then when you click it to go back to the original post it takes you to a post made by Ice. Wierd. Sheesh.

Ah, makes sense.

I'm at work so I'm not going to go digging for the past. However, I think my aggressive comment was more for C-note. He was the super aggro one at the very beginning. Gunslinger too to a degree.

Except for the vote thing, which IMO was a talk starter, Mael hasn't been that aggressive.

OK, I'll try this one more time... and if I get accused of beating a dead horse, then I'm going to scream.

In all the games we've played and I've reffed. There have been, maybe, two instances where some complicated mafia scheme actually worked. The best scheming was actually done by the doc/det team in that one game. The absolute best plan for mafia is stay in the noise and let the innocents tear each other up.

Please keep in mind something here. There are only 2 mafia right now. There are four prople with votes (including me). There's no way all four are mafia, so some players are being confused by goofy statements or things they think are weird or whatever. There's only a 25% chance (I think, I hated probability in school) that one of the four players currently voted for is mafia.

Look at mael, everyone has pretty much agreed that he voted for you, DD, to get the ball rolling and almost randomly... yet he's got the most votes. I'm willing to put a fair bit of money on the fact that NO MAFIA HAVE VOTED YET.

That's why I don't think Mael is mafia. There's no profit in making this move at this point in time.

The mafia are at their best when they have someone else to twist. For example, Gunslinger would make a great mafia candidate. No one is posting anything about him at all. However, he has a ready target in Maelstrom so anything that he (gunslinger) says about maelstrom is going to be something that everyone else agrees with.

At this time, I'd like to point out that no one has even mentioned that gunslinger has at least once been caught saying things that had no basis in reality (about me and caught by me), but everyone is following him.

Now, noodles, she fits MY perfect example of what a day one mafia should be. Helpful, yet not actually saying anything. Talkative, yet not saying very much at all. Other candidates that fit this profile so far are John (of course, where would the game be without me and John at each others throats), chiclids, rich, maybe even opi, jbrad, jarred, and lucky. However many of these are new and depending on the quality and teamwork from the mafia may or may not be excused.

That's the other thing everyone keeps bringing up. The mafia talking, the mafia laughing behind our backs. Almost every game where I've been mafia, it's been pretty much 'good luck'. There have been a few team discussions, but mainly it was 'crap he voted for me, someone say something to get everyone off my case'. This may or may not be true in this instance, I can't say, which is why I'm including a few of the newbies on my mafia list.

Again, based on past play, the most vocal are most likely to be innocent... up to a point.

I'm sure that doesn't answer whatever thing you needed me to answer, but I hope that it explains my position well enough. If you have any questions, I'll try to answer them.

Ta da

Odd. I seem to have been mentioned quite a lot, especially by you. And please give me some posts where people are massively agreeing with me...

Haha, so that one post where you claim I twisted something you said, even though I asked a question for clarification?

Where is this point Ogre? You can't stand to let me slip by because I don't fit your little theory but almost 99% of your attention has been on me as of late. Whatever happened to voting for your top suspect? I think you're afraid of trying to start something on me.

Ok, was clear on this Ogre, to a degree.... thanks for the post and response. However, I do have a problem with what I have bolded.... I have also had perked earss for Gun, because his p[lay seems off (yes, even for an anonymous). I guess off meaning how aggressive I see him as being... what I am missing though is where everyone is supposedly following him....

Thank you! Except for Lucky I can't seem to find a place where people are following me, although Lucky claims his vote was just off timing. Can't say for sure...

Ummm... I thought it was obvious that he's been pushing for Mael (first vote on Mael). Now mael has three times as many votes as anyone else... wow that sounds worse than it actually is. Mael has three votes and three others have one each.

Sounds like following to me.

Plus, many seem to think that mael is scummy for his early vote for you... or at least extrememly interesting because of it.

If someone is following me, wouldn't the followers be more suspect? Isn't that what your little "theory" states, that mafia try to blend in? I made a bold move and voted Mael because he was my top suspect, when everyone else was holding back. When Mael made the first move and voted you say he's innocent, yet I'm a top suspect...

My list.

Gun he has been pushing mael and keeping him in the spot light. Seems very interested in removing him.

Mael - the early vote was odd, may have been to stir things up but he refuses to confirm that and gets quite hostile when it keeps coming up.

Noodles and C-note something just not quite right here. just a feeling no real evidence.

So it's apparently a crime to vote for your top suspect I see...I never pushed for his lynching. Show me one post where I asked others to vote him.

I just looked at the last vote count. I didn't count the ones after that. But that just makes my case a little more interesting.

You know...

I'm really hesitant to vote for gunslinger, but I really want to. A vote for him goes against my thinking, but I really want to... sigh.

Do it. Then you can see how wrong you are about everything you've said about me.

Well, ya know I am gonna just go ahead and do it...I vote to lynch Gunslinger
In the respect that I am not feeling good about the train on Maelstrom and he has been pushing it really hard. Something is just not sitting right with me in regards to him. If I am wrong about him or mael, I am screwed either way.
I may change my vote later if anything more evident comes up, but for now that's where it is. I have a meeting for the rest of the day - so later.

LOL

John, sorry, I thought I had posted it somewhere. The tell is Z's. He posts a fair amount, but they are total fluff posts with no real substance. Agreement, finding quotes that agree with others, not sticking his head out, etc.

I'm not sure if I think gunslinger is Z anymore. I feel certain Z is on somewhere though.

John, that's a good point. Is he a mafia covering for his partner? Is he a dumb innocent covering for his partner?

I hate the team build games....

How I am NOT sticking my head out Ogre, you've been saying how aggressive I have been playing pushing for mael but now you say I'm not doing anything to get me in the spotlight?

And you would answer JL about who it was but not me...why?

I retract my vote on Maelstrom and vote to lynch Ogre

Not sure when I will be back on but in case things do turn on me look where it all started (Ogre and Rich).

 

[[AC] maelstrom]

I don't see why gun is switching off me. I will re-read.

 

[dirtydawg10]

So Mael if you're worried about going why don't you vote for Gun and tie things up? Or are you waiting to see what others will do because you have already used your one retraction? Are you planning a last minute vote?