UGF or Vacuum ??

[WhisperedLitany]

Okay, well i've run into a problem with my 20g setup. Well, somewhat of a problem i guess. My mom says i should put in a under gravel filter before i add the gravel i just washed, but i dont know if i should because i really dont want to deal with the pain in the rear of cleaning it. I was thinking of just getting a tank vacuum , but my mom insists on me getting the UGF.

What should i do? And can you please give me links to good tank vacuums i could get? either from walmart or petco / petsmart only please.

 

[jackiomy]

I hate my UGF I can't seem to get my Nitrates down and I think it is because of the UGF. The tank I just set up doesn't have one and I am much happier with it.

 

[Rbishop]

Whether you have UGF, RUGF or none, you will have to gravel vac...

 

[Death Pony]

I would go with an auto siphoning vac. I got one from petsmart and it works really well. Enough suction to remove waste, but not remove fish if they accidentally decide to investigate it.

 

[mroth_3]

An undergravel filter is used for biological filtration. A gravel vac is used for mechanicaly removing debris during your weekly water changes. You need both a form of filtration and a way of removing debris, so you need both. I might consider a diffrent form of filtration as was previously suggested.

 

[grannylvsfish]

An undergravel filter is used for biological filtration. A gravel vac is used for mechanicaly removing debris during your weekly water changes. You need both a form of filtration and a way of removing debris, so you need both. I might consider a diffrent form of filtration as was previously suggested.

:thm: stay away from UGF they suck are loud and a pain. go with a different filtration and get a python to clean the tank when doing water changes.

 

[WhisperedLitany]

Thanks everyone. I decided to go ahead and just add the gravel (not getting the UGF), and my mom said to just use the filter that came with the setup. Its for 10-30gallons, so it should be fine.

 

[jpappy789]

UGF's are not a pain to clean as long as you do your regular gravel vacs like any other tank. The main problems with them stem from a failure to do so.

 

[Rbishop]

:thm: stay away from UGF they suck are loud and a pain. go with a different filtration and get a python to clean the tank when doing water changes.

They are not loud and one of the quietest filters out there. The only pain they pose is for folks who do not like to maintain their tanks correctly.