whew... caught up more or less. First of all RL issues have jumped down my throat in a big way. I suddenly have two major project running simultaneously and I get to move in the middle (we're finally getting a place).
OK, on to the ruckus.
First and formost: My vote switch to noods. Do I want my vote to count, yes. Am I willing to train on someone just because I want to be in the pile, no.
I know what I posted and I still mean it, I want the vote to count. However, I wasn't really sure that any of the trains were the best... after some thought, I thought that noods 'newb card' was the best play... I know it wasn't a newb card, it was more of a 'crazy card', but the fact remains that I felt that was the best scum tell for day one.
I still have jpap and orge on top as having some sort of role. Orge's lone vote for noods at the end is out of character. I need to see who he was voting for before that. Might be something in that.
I am wide open on who to vote for.
[AC] RICKETS;1850498 said:
I'm not sure where everyone is but they sure aren't posting on here. I'm still waiting to hear from Ogre about his onsies voting but his claims to wanting to make his vote count. How can both of those things happen?
I hope that took care of that.
Here's my current thinking...but I am totally open to suggestions...
I don't think the "mafia" would want to take out DD (see my previous argument)....so I am eliminating Rickets, John, Fire and Ice from my pool of suspects.
I really don't think the murderer would attempt to fly a solo vote on night 1...as anything that unusual will attract unnecessary attention. So, I am also eliminating CJ, Pap and Ogre.
This leaves me with those who voted for JL....JL is a strong contributor. And like I mentioned in my previous post, eliminate a strong contributor early on will make things a bit easier for the "Mafia"...no one kicking the bushes, etc... So, all three of the people who voted for JL are on my list....
Noods, Lucky and Rich.
Rich was on my previous suspect list....so, he will get the #1 spot. Lucky and Noods are tied for the second position.
best logical deductoin I've seen in this game... may be the only logical deduction I've seen in this game.
But as previously stated, DD s a veteran, she really doesn't have a differing playing style from what I've seen. And to think that the mafia wouldn't want to take out someone on day one might be true, but any good mafia member knows that there isn't enough information on one suspect to prove him a power role.
And why not fly solo on night one? When no one has any real good info to go on, you tell you team to vote for other people to not cause suspicion.
And just because JL is a contributor (I'll give him that) doesn't mean he has good intentions. I voted him not because he was a noncontributor, but because I didn't like his actions. Which makes you accusations of me Noods and Rich quite hypocrytical.
From where I stand, it looks to me like you are trying to defend the people who voted DD out of the picture. Whether your the ring leader, an accomplice, or an innocent who had the misfortune of riding the troubled soul train to hell, there's only one way to find out.
I vote to take the soul of Opi
Lucky, I'm sorry, but I find a lot of this bull cookies. My guess is that one bad guy, at the most, was on DD... probably none of them.
So I put forth a theory that might implicate you. You tell me that I am crazy, throw every one who voted for DD on the good side. Decide that the number two vote getter, John is an innocent, so it must be those evil guys. The crowning piece of evidence is I was on your list already. Hmmmm!
Very suspicious to me.
I still think Orge is of interest.
I can see Opi's reasoning about the votes. I do think the people who voted for DD could be innocent, but it would not suprise me that at least one evil voted DD.
Really for the mafia, the first few days they just need to follow along. With only two of them on they could blend in pretty good. I doubt if they both voted for me or voted together. One could have voted for the other one. Two can hide pretty well. Now that there is three we will have to look for changes.
I really want to hear from Orge and his late change to a single vote. He really didn't try to sway any one, and it just stayed as a lone vote. I do think noods could be a good suspect. She thinks she is low on her posting, but has us all beat. I think she is trying not to post as much.
JOhn is till going on about this.
When did I say my posting was low? I have not been able to play at work like I typically can, but I know my posting is never low. (I guess I like to talk alot!)
JL, you certainly have not dropped off my radar. You seem to be kicking bushes as usual, but I dont know how to read you so not sure which side you are on....I would be perfectly happy to vote you again tonite....
Ogres "wishy washy"-ness is a concxern to me as well. Seems pretty out of charactor especially with the lone votes.
Noods is suddenly interested in me as well now. Is this a plot to get John off her case and back on to me?
Let's try a copy and paste version so I can at least change to font color! my responses in red....
Originally Posted by
IceH2O 
Sorry for the long post but once you get a hold of something its hard to let go. I know not all of these players can be evil but it gives me a suspect list and a way to watch from day to day.
I am going to try to keep the players in their own section so this is not chronologically correct.
I hate seeing this, then afterwards he doesn't vote Jpap. He decides Jpap is more likely to be innocent. See below
Is any vote worthless? Did you mean you didn't want to be 1st on someone? Was it you didn't want to be 1st or you didn't want to be alone and have to move?
I am certainly not worried about being the first vote on anyone. By worthless, i meant random or a lone vote on someone. night 1 is tough.
Here she won't vote DD and won't vote Lucky because she thinks she will be alone there so she jumps on the mini train of John hoping that others follow? Doesn't matter which innocent goes home huh? Not saying JL is innocent but having you as a suspect makes him innocent per diem.
Not voting DD cause I do not find her as "questionable" as apparently others do. I am always cautious of her but did not feel that she was an imminent threat on night one.
Distancing? That panda theory crap is well,,,crap!
It has been proven and admitted by Jpap at a later date he was wrong about the timing.
Now Noodles is willing to jump to Opi. Really starting to look like Noodles will jump anywhere that will take out somebody, except DD.
I had already voiced my suspicions of Opi and if my vote would better serve the "town" elsewhere than I would certainly be willing to change -
here she admits to vote for anyone even DD but still doesn't vote DD
see above responses....
never like seeing that stated on Day 1
I agree....
Here Jpap rips Opi for her post then in the same post admits he had the timing wrong in answer to my post.
A second time Fire says Jpap is innocent.
Did Jpap know DD was going to show innocent and therefore hope we think he must also be innocent?
seriously Ogre the best reason? want to explain to us why this overruled any other reasons? Then you go from a lone vote on Rickets to Noods. Could be distancing here also.
Basically saying he thinks DD is innocent
Now saying Noods is innocent.
I'm sure you will be.
Woah another innocent claim? There can't be that many evils.
Yeah I was on DD, I posted on DD so I expect to be looked at. But I don't trust you at all Noods,especially with how you were all over the place willing to hide everywhere and anywhere except onto DD whom you said you would vote for. I think you look more suspicious than anyone that was on DD at the time except maybe Fire but only because you posted more then her.
I never said I would vote for DD; I said I was not comfortable with the train on her and did not agree with voting her, (altho i am always cautious of her- I would be stupid not to be!), I was not hiding, simply trying to make my vote "count" for the good of the town on night one, with no clues to go on. I had my vote where I thought it best, but was willing to hear what others had to say. If I agreed, I would have changed; note that I did not.....trying to take the focus off of yourself much, Ice?
I tried to keep a level post but there was way to much to move around. I hope you guys can follow it.
Of the ones I posted about I'd have to say Noods, Fire, Lucky are the top 3 suspects. Only 2 could have been team mates at the time. I'd lean towards Noods and Lucky as the starting team though.
Jpap drops down but not out. I could see that he could be kicking bushes and not attacking but I don't like some of his posts.
Ogre I'd like to hear more from. I don't like single votes but I can relate to a day 1 single. Just not after stating you don't like day 1 singles then moving to another day 1 single.
First, Ice's comments on Fire have me curious about her. She'd be a great turn choice for a smart evil player (like John)
Second, Noods comments in red. 1) She's trying to throw me under the bus. 2) two of the comments that she defends herself are for me, not her.
Thats a snap? Are you serious? You haven't seen me go off yet lol.
That was just an observation. Just as Jpap put it so elegantly above you were using RL issues to prove innocence. Just doesn't work that way.
Switch to me Lucky, you got me voted out last game I played on Day 1 as an innocent for suspecting you, why change your style?
Lucky, when you've been jumped on by Ice, you kno wit. You feel it for days. Trust me
Sucky nightfall. I hate that I was the last vote on DDoll, though I feel like I did have decent reason for Day 1. Anyway, much more interesting things have been happening today.
I don't know what to say to make jpap and Ice feel better about my feelings on Jpap. I thought I explained it, so I know that there's really nothing I can say, other than "it's feeling." It made sense at the time, and I'm still not sure that jpap is anything other than innocent.
Lucky is sort of rubbing me the wrong way, though I have not much to bring up as evidence for the "icky" feeling. The spat with jpap is amusing, and for a moment I was entertaining the idea that maybe they are going at each other to distance from a teammate (I have since let that thought fly away).
I don't think that Rich is currently a candidate for me. His play seems much like mine, watching and posting thoughts as he sees fit. Like rl, not everyone is outspoken.
Noodles, I appreciate the fact that you remembered that I am on mat leave, but that does not mean that I will be on the computer all day. Nightfall isn't until Friday; there is plenty of time for me to stick my foot in my mouth and bother people with my chronically low posting self.
Ice, I can never read you. Ever. That sucks.
And a quiet Ogre is a scary Ogre. Really scary. I agree with Ice that the lone vote is out of character for him, and the vote on noodles was weak, at best. It's odd. Can;t wait to see what he says tonight/tomorrow.
If I had to pick a team right now, it would be Lucky, Opi and....Rickets? Ogre? I just don't know right now.
TTFN!
10 pages of posts and all you have is a feeling?
[AC] RICKETS;1851452 said:
lol...I agree on the Jpap lucky thing. Entertaining but not much meat there I don't think.
As far as me watching but not posting I have been catching up on here and watching 2 TV shows at the same time...lol.
To me the thing that stands out the most to me with the voting last night is Ogre which I have already stated my thought on...and Fire with the late vote. I would guess that 1 evil was on DD and 1 evil was somewhere else. My best guess would be that they were on a singleton vote. So Fire and Ogre would be my top 2 suspects.
Now the turn could have been anywhere because they were voting as an innocent. We'll just have to wait and see who starts to play differently after nightfall.
The only thing about Fire, is that I think she knows better (as a bad guy) than to be the last vote on an innocent train.
At this point, I'm interested in JOhn, Noods, and Fire as my top three. Of course, this was the same list (almost) I had last game.
I vote to take thee soul of noods... staying with her for now, based on my comments above. No gaurantee, I won't be moving into a house tomorrow.
![[AC] RICKETS](/forums/data/avatars/s/83/83432.jpg?1431345517){kind=avatar}
