Mafia #51 - Mafia Citizens - The Play

Definitely of interest, but a few things I'm considering:

Plantling's vote for her second candidate (saying that there were enough votes on Kashta) was a bad move, plain and simple. The thing is, I've seen others do the same thing, as town. I don't understand why, but they do it... Last game, Noodles (Communicating Innocent) did the same thing and I (as scum) was able to exploit it a little bit to help make her look scummy. So, I would need to see additional bad behavior from Plantling before voting her. Her last-minute, albeit late, vote change to Kashta was slightly redeeming.

Mad you admit to exploiting little things like last minute vote changes last game to make people look scummy. How can I be sure you aren't doing the same thing this time with Kash? Also how can you be confident of your vote with company like plantling and red? Both, in my book, right now are looking more and more suspicious. Neither have real good explainations for their vote. Plantling says her vote is based on Kash's last minute vote to save herself. (I am not sure how I woulda reacted in Kash's place) Am I supposed to believe that if I am lynched I should just take one for the team and doing anything other than that is considered anti-town? Red still seems to just have some weird personal vedetta against Kash since we were beat last game. Sorry, but just because she was a "bad guy" last time isn't a good reason for a vote this time around. Thoughts?

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Green/Teal --> That's the same thing I just pointed out in the post I just finished.

Blue Text --> I can answer that question because it's a common strategy tactic a team may have to consider when someone on their team is clearly going to get lynched. This is something we talked about as a possibility on the mafia team if it was needed at some point. If a scummy team player is obviously going down and it would place the doomed person's teammates at risk of exposure... of being identified, then that player becomes what's known as a sacrificial lamb. That's an example where a scum player accepts the fact that the only course of action is to let themselves hang... so they sacrifice themselves for the benefit of the team.

In my case at nightfall last night, I was on my own and I was in a position where I had to make that call myself. Since I'm innocent, for me to choose to take that fall would have protected nobody at all. The town loses an innocent which hurts their chances in the final outcome because the rebels (scum/whatever) gain a one-person advantage that could make a huge difference later on. When I voted to save myself and see Zigman get lynched instead of me, I was counting on the chance that he would turn out scummy. He turned out to be innocent after all.. so that switch between us didn't accomplish anything. Just a whole lot more drama than we really need or want. Yes, it saved my neck at the time.. but it ended Zigman's game abruptly.
 
Everyone is a possible innocent so why lynch anyone?

Yup lynching kash would give info directly on TRS and plant, but would also give info on everyone who voted for her. since the game is hinged on the amount of imformation the town has, why would it be bad to get info on atleast 6 players?
How can you be so sure this will give anything up on TRS or plant...TRS has said practically nothing in day two and who ever votes is going to change their stragdy...what "six" players do you think you are going to get info on by a kash vote and what are you basing this off? Say if kash is lynched and found innocent does that make TRS and plant innocent, but what if she is scum, then things change and you no longer have valid info.Just my opinion.
 
Jeez sorry guys, sorry I was at a baseball game. I have a life and don't sit on the computer. I still stand by my vote on kash, because she seems like the inconsistent one. To be perfectly honest, if I get lynched, you will see the scum come out on kash. I might have to take one for the townies, for you to see it. I don't have any vendetta against kash, I lasted the whole game last time as in innocent, and I plan on doing it again. Kash just seems a little more defensive then usuall and just seems like scum. If I don't get lynced or hit, rb and coler are next on my list. You got to take one scum down at a time.
What is this pm business? I never got one, and since kashta your a mod, I dare you too look in my pm box. (if you can do that). Or any of the mods, the box is empty.
 
I lasted the whole game last time as in innocent, and I plan on doing it again. Kash just seems a little more defensive then usuall and just seems like scum.
This statement just confirms why you are number two on my list...Basically telling everyone (pleading) you are innocent and putting the scum tag on someone else screams scum to me.
 
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