Mafia 52: Killer Comes A Courtin' (The Play)

Ice...you don't need to be told to go back and read other games as you've played enough of them. The most straightforward mafia vote on day 1 is either one of a) a player who has made a howler and then defends themselves poorly or b) a non-participating player who isn't defending themselves anyway, and indeed who can be explained away on D2 by saying 'well they wern't playing anyway and wern't helping the town' etc etc.

In the absence of howlers...so far...settling on non-participating players for votes is a solid scum tell at this time in the game.

As regards whether the UD rule in this game is of assistance to the town or not - it is clearly of assistance as it will take that bit longer necessarily for the numbers to turn in the mafia's failure.

Your suggestion that the mafia are likely to sit back and do literally nothing might of course be correct. That is not entirely consistent with your voting me who is a) participating and b) not doing nothing but meh so be it.

Otherwise the way I see it, if you (ice) are for instance in the mafia then you are reasonably likely to go kill me early in the game anyway and if you're not mafia, then neither you or I are likely to be long for the game either because they will hit us both just as soon as they can :D

I suppose that since there are no UDs the mafia would want to get non-participating players out of the way early, but that is assuming those players are still innocent.
 
I suppose that since there are no UDs the mafia would want to get non-participating players out of the way early, but that is assuming those players are still innocent.

I don't agree with that logic. Why would you want someone around not contributing...I mean on day one there is a 50/50 chance they are either mafia or innocent right? Yes in a lot of the games the UD's are innocent but you never really know till balla reveals their identity.
 
I don't agree with that logic. Why would you want someone around not contributing...I mean on day one there is a 50/50 chance they are either mafia or innocent right? Yes in a lot of the games the UD's are innocent but you never really know till balla reveals their identity.

How did what I say not make sense? A lot of the time (almost every game) the UDs hurt the town's numbers. This time around the mafia have to get rid of them. They know who is who, so they can target lynch the possible players who would otherwise UD rather than waste a hit on them which could be put to better use, like ousting a vet.

Even if they are not participating, if they are innocent they still keep us in the game longer. I don't know, I tend to lean to Coler's side on this argument.

Basically it comes down to this: are you willing to take a chance if they are not scum?
 
Three hours earlier FD
Well a lot of random talk and not a lot of posting. Why do you think it would be best to take out the SK...your explanation needs clairification. The new players need to get over here and play.

I'm not sure what is unclear about my reason. I think the sk is a wild card who is just as likely to take out a townie as mafia. We have no way of knowing which side they will choose, so they are a liability.

True, dd is talking a lot more than usual. I am not to "worried about the ones who havent posted as much as I am a bit disgusted they havent made an attempt to even post or log in. Really makes the game drab. Oh well all we have to go on so far is Pizza....

Bit harsh, dontcha think?

6 Pacific...Thought you were a teacher?


You all act like the SK HAS to take a daily shot. The SK could never take a shot if they so chose. If the SK is smart they won't take any shots today at all. If they start killing all willy nilly we are in trouble. There are no avenues to track them down unless the Dr gets lucky.

If they take a shot today then I agree they need to be removed, even if it hits mafia just bc it was a luck shot. There are no for sure tell tale signs of mafia yet so if they did hit one it wasn't planned.

The Dr needs to hold their invest as long as possible, don't waste it early since you only get one.

lol, Wasn't sure where Z is. Thanks.

I see where you're coming from with the non-requisite hit. If we got a newb though, I don't see them not taking a hit. Couldn't this (a hit) explain one of the non-posters? If they're hit, hey immediately lose posting ability, right? I'll rule check to be sure....

Also, Doc should heed this advice.

I suppose that since there are no UDs the mafia would want to get non-participating players out of the way early, but that is assuming those players are still innocent.

Why? I would think the opposite.
 
The Serial Killers Hit may occur at any time during the day, when I recieve the Hit request the person to be Hit will be contacted and they may no longer post. Bala will announce the Hit at Nightfall.

From the rules. Could explain some non-poster.
 
Wink wink....hmm only mafia can communicate as the rules read....The pizza question the winking, nudging is a sign of some sort of communication with Kash, maybe that needs to be questioned...hmmm.

Ice...you don't need to be told to go back and read other games as you've played enough of them. The most straightforward mafia vote on day 1 is either one of a) a player who has made a howler and then defends themselves poorly or b) a non-participating player who isn't defending themselves anyway, and indeed who can be explained away on D2 by saying 'well they wern't playing anyway and wern't helping the town' etc etc.

In the absence of howlers...so far...settling on non-participating players for votes is a solid scum tell at this time in the game.

As regards whether the UD rule in this game is of assistance to the town or not - it is clearly of assistance as it will take that bit longer necessarily for the numbers to turn in the mafia's failure.

Your suggestion that the mafia are likely to sit back and do literally nothing might of course be correct. That is not entirely consistent with your voting me who is a) participating and b) not doing nothing but meh so be it.

Otherwise the way I see it, if you (ice) are for instance in the mafia then you are reasonably likely to go kill me early in the game anyway and if you're not mafia, then neither you or I are likely to be long for the game either because they will hit us both just as soon as they can :D


I have to disagree with "the absense of howlers so far.." Coler. I totally think my pizza comment is trying to be used against me by some mafia members. I think that is the reason why it keeps being brought up eventhough I have explained myself fairly well. The one person who keeps bringing it up the most is MC. So, hence my vote. He has done both of what I consider scum tells. He tried to call me out as scummy first thing and now has also voted for a UD, but has left himself open to go back after me. I VOTE TO LYNCH MC.

Wink wink....hmm only mafia can communicate as the rules read....The pizza question the winking, nudging is a sign of some sort of communication with Kash, maybe that needs to be questioned...hmmm.
 
The mafia cannot rely on UDs to get rid of some innocents so they actually need to take out those people or more likely than not, play a part in their lynching somehow as it doesn't make sense for them to waste a hit on one of those players. Since its easier to justify a vote on someone like this earlier when there are just a bunch of willy-nilly votes anyways, they would want to do it as soon as possible. Once the game gets rolling people expect actual suspects.
 

From the rules. Could explain some non-poster.
I don't think the SK would be so stupid as to hit someone this early. Harsh, but it would be royally stupid no matter what side they are on to pick a random hit early. Plus, it's already been explained (exhausted really) that 2/3 of the remaining players to post have not even been on AC yet. And I don't think the SK would want to hit a newb. Just doesn't seem plausible at this point.

The more I think about it, the more I believe the SK is going to wait until he/she sees the game tip to one side's favor and then use their hits. No sense in randomly hitting people only to even up the score. They want the game to be as quick as possible so they do not have to survive longer than needed. I could be entirely wrong, as I cannot know what the SK is thinking. Just my thoughts again...
 
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