Mafia 52: Killer Comes A Courtin' (The Play)

[jm1212]

This is pretty much what I have been thinking as well. Why would even bring it up unless you were hopeing someone would slip and say "I think the doc is blah blah, cause...."? We can all speculate who we think it is and the mafia have an advantage since they have communicating group, giving them simple deduction. why ask for someone to vocalize it?

I vote to lynch JM1212 on the basis of that sick joke as well as the fact that he seems to not be really trying to root out any scum. the majority of his posts are self defense, pointing fingers or "jokes". I realize this is not a concrete reason but the reasons I have for DD and Bugz are of comparable caliber and I do not wish to "not vote". we shall what it boils down to as the day progresses. If I need to change my vote to one of my other top supsects that is fine as I do not wish to be a lone, useless vote at nightfall.

sweet a vote!

 

[rich311k]

Mr mod can we have a vote tally?

 

[jm1212]

after considering the events at hand, and giving it some more time to think, i have come to this conclusion.

while JL just appeared out of left field yesterday and voted for DD, he's been to "out in the open" to be mafia. in fact, its really Luvbugz that deserves my vote.

therefore, I retract my vote for johnlarson66. I vote to lynch LuvBugz.taking advantage of my little situation was classic mafia style. she's pointing fingers at everyone, trying to cause unrest all over the place. she's been on my watch list from the beginning, so there's no reason to stop watching now.

Noodles, you're not off the hook either. you've also been on my watch list for some time, and both of you have taken advantage of my situation. granted, i probably shouldnt have asked JL about the doctor, but you saying its "really scary" with your cute underlining is just another "OMG look what he's doing, never mind what im doing, kill him quick" type of thing. besides the fact that i voted for you yesterday, my suspicions have been strengthened

 

[noodles62]

after considering the events at hand, and giving it some more time to think, i have come to this conclusion.

while JL just appeared out of left field yesterday and voted for DD, he's been to "out in the open" to be mafia. in fact, its really Luvbugz that deserves my vote.

therefore, I retract my vote for johnlarson66. I vote to lynch LuvBugz.taking advantage of my little situation was classic mafia style. she's pointing fingers at everyone, trying to cause unrest all over the place. she's been on my watch list from the beginning, so there's no reason to stop watching now.

Noodles, you're not off the hook either. you've also been on my watch list for some time, and both of you have taken advantage of my situation. granted, i probably shouldnt have asked JL about the doctor, but you saying its "really scary" with your cute underlining is just another "OMG look what he's doing, never mind what im doing, kill him quick" type of thing. besides the fact that i voted for you yesterday, my suspicions have been strengthened

and just what is it that I am doing JM? Trying to figure out who is scum? Unlike you, all you can manage to do is say people are on your list and vote for them because they call you out for your scummy behavior.....At this point in the game i am really unsure of anyone's role but you are sticking out the most right now, even more so with your last post which consists of nothing but "look at everyone that's picking on me!" :cry:

 

[Luvbugz]

I find it interesting you both think im "running in then disappearing" all the time. Ya I don't post a ton but Luv at least should know that's how i play. And i haven't really disappeared at any point im in here all the time when im not at work or sleeping.

Do you have something you would like my thought on or did someone say that it would be a good idea to point out that im not a top poster to the both of you?

I was on the same team as you last time Mav, so yes I do kinda know your play style (We were mucs) . Coler or Kash would stir the pot and then you would jump in with a vote when it was convient. It does kinda look like you are doing the same.....

What are your thoughts on JM and DD then Mav? How about Ice? How about JL?

 

[jm1212]

and just what is it that I am doing JM? Trying to figure out who is scum? Unlike you, all you can manage to do is say people are on your list and vote for them because they call you out for your scummy behavior.....At this point in the game i am really unsure of anyone's role but you are sticking out the most right now, even more so with your last post which consists of nothing but "look at everyone that's picking on me!" :cry:

of all the controversial figures in the game you seem to be going after me the most.

and if you havent seen where i have been talking about behavior in previous posts to me voting ones, then you have been "skimming" or not reading at all, but then again you might not need to read through the thread to find out who is scum.

 

[jm1212]

and if im not mistaken noodles, you had plenty of those in the beginning of the game as well.

 

[maverickbr77]

I vote to lynch Luvbugz

not only has luv looked scummy to me from near the beginning but i think knowing her role will give us insite into FD and DD voting/nonvoting. I know noods was in the same position as luv was but the fact she had jpaps vote makes me hesitant to vote on her and i don't think she looks a scummy as luv does

I was on the same team as you last time Mav, so yes I do kinda know your play style (We were mucs) . Coler or Kash would stir the pot and then you would jump in with a vote when it was convient. It does kinda look like you are doing the same.....

What are your thoughts on JM and DD then Mav? How about Ice? How about JL?

I have DD leaning mafia but i think your role could shed more light on it

JM im not sure slightly scummy has he played before? could be a newbie dumb move but im not sure nothing else on him that comes to mind so i think he can wait

Ice i have no read on

JL I have as a townie I believe his reason for missing day one we knew he hadn't been on AC at all so i see nothing scummy in that and he has been hitting on alot of good points about some of the more suspect players

Yes i was a rebel(scum) last time but im not going to change my style no matter the role its just the way i am, i like to observe and only realy talk when i think it is necessary.

 

[Dangerdoll]

What's that supposed to mean?

meaning you all have excuses for your absences and promise and claim you will be more available and helpful.... well, all that did was up your post count in the thread a couple times and let everyone know you are aware you havent been so "in the game".... kind of like a subliminal thing easing attention off of you because you had the excuse.... so now where's all the work?

I expect that to be "confused" or misunderstood.

Here's my input this morning. I feel DD and Luv are both mafia. I also highly suspect FD being part of this but she still may be innocent... yet after reading FD's more recent posts, they fit in well having a connection to both DD and Luv. Reviewing the thread more has cleared Noodles, Ice, JL, and Rich in my mind. JM made a huge mistake calling for speculation about the Dr. which was really bad but may have been done out of inexperience, not realizing such a discussion would tip off the mafia as to who they'd want to hit next.

DD is not playing the same as she did when she was noncommunicating mafia or a noncommunicating wiseguy. This time, she was more active and connected in the game. When she is noncommunicating, she tends to float in and out more sporadically. I think she is communicating this time because her activity was a lot more connected/purposeful before she later had to defend herself for not voting.

In this game, DD has been posting more suspects and was quick to stir up interest over Luvbugz early on... which she failed to follow through on to vote Luvbugz for the lynch. I suspect Luv is her teammate and DD started that to distance them from each other while nothing else was going on yet, intending to switch off as soon as someone else flubbed up or a new suspicion developed elsewhere once the inactive players showed up. That just didn't happen through the first day.

I don't believe for a moment that DD decided not to vote out of indecision. The DD I've seen before would've played her best hunch to vote somewhere else, except she'd already committed herself to vote Luvbugz over anyone else. So she stayed out of the voting completely.

FD cast a late vote to save Luv by taking MC out instead. That was how they resolved the problem to save Luvbugz. FD voted MC with 5 minutes to spare with DD's vote held in reserve in case somebody switched from MC back to Luv. When nobody did, DD didn't vote for Luv (her #1 suspect) because that would've put Luv back in tied with MC with her fate decided by a coin toss. DD didn't vote Noodles or MC because she'd not built up a convincing case against them and it would've been obvious that she was only saving her teammate Luv.

As a vet, DD knew she'd end up taking flack over not voting but she also knows she can talk herself out of a tight spot fairly well. She tried to blow that off at first with her explanation to Ice... which isn't very solid at all. But Ice wasn't buying it... and that's when JL came into this. DD's now having to defend herself more intently. I just don't see it as being very convincing.

Jpappy (mafia) voted Noodles because he knew she wasn't on the scum team. He doesn't strike me as a vote switcher, hoping to distance himself with that vote. And I seriously doubt Ice would've followed Jpap's vote if both Jpap and Ice were mafia.

Kash, really, you are giving me way too much credit. There are folks here in this game that can vouch for that as well, trust me....

My vote is on DD. It will stay on DD. I am not gonna sit here all day and defend myself. If I do get hit or lynched tonight townies and turn up innocent, what are you all gonna do then?? I hope you will take a hard long look at DD, JM, Rich, Ice and Mav. Maybe throw TRS on that list because he usually is a very active player. I have a feeling he is being coached to be quiet. Rich and Mav seem to be just running in and voting when it is convient and then disappearing again. DD tried to pin a pizza joke on me first day as scummy ( classic day one mafia tactics and was called on it by me) but then didn't back it up with a vote. Ice, I think is riding Coler's innocent coat tails. Plus, notice how he retracted his vote on Coler real fast?? That was probably because he knew Coler was the hit target that night. JM seems to be following DD's lead plus there was that whole "joke" about the doc. I dunno if it was a joke or not, but why even joke about it?? JM needs to be looked at a little more.

I would just like to point out that I have gone and done as much bush beating as I can. There are alot of people who are just sitting back and letting others do the work for them. I really want the townies to win this one, so please don't get so easily lead by their distracting techs.

you have it so thought out, bugz... you really are doing well this game. You seem to have really stepped up your game comparing the first mafia game you played in to this one... you have help with this one?

I was on the same team as you last time Mav, so yes I do kinda know your play style (We were mucs) . Coler or Kash would stir the pot and then you would jump in with a vote when it was convient. It does kinda look like you are doing the same.....

What are your thoughts on JM and DD then Mav? How about Ice? How about JL?

What I would like to know, Bugz, is your opinion on JL and Ice...

 

[Kashta]

I'm comfortable with my two leading suspects.. DD and Luvbugz. My vote could go either way between them, so I'll place the vote now...

I vote to lynch DangerDoll.

That gets this in for the day and I intend to vote Luvbugz tomorrow. (Or vice versa.) My reasons for both stated earlier this morning.

JM1212.. The only remaining question I have is this.... how many mafia games have you played before?

FireDancer was a question for me over her vote to save Luvbugz or not. With this question in mind, it's this post from her that's made that call for me. I've broken up FD's single post into multiple quotes to add comments between the paragraphs. Reading this with the notion these three are mafia teammates, I can see FD defending or being helpfully sympathetic toward both DD and Luvbugz while remaining carefully neutral about the others she names.

Here, FD defends DD:

I hate to admit it, but I can kinda empathize with DDoll not posting. With the votes being so close, it almost seemed like a better idea to let the dice decide who was going home. But, it does seem out of character for her to not vote.

Here, general comments. Then somewhat scolds JM but staying neutral about that too:

I think that it was a good thing that the SK is gone. Thanks for taking out a goon, but it was really a wild shot. What if jpap had been innocent? We would have lost 2 townies. Ouch!

Don't even pretend to askcwho the Dr is! We can't afford to lose them, and asking about is only going to cuase someone to slip up. You should know this jm (and yes, I understand that you said you were only joking, but still).

Here, defends Luvbugz again while explaining herself:

Why am I being linked to Luv? Yes, I "saved" her by voting MC, but it was mostly because I didn't think that the pizza fiasco was a good enough reason to vote her. I wish she would have given the rest of us enough credit to understand her joke, after all, we are playing a pretty intense thinking game, but that was it.

The rest is noncomittal... Mav, Ice, and JL:

Maverick is worrying me with the run in, post something that sounds definitive and then disappearing. I think he is worth watching.

Ice always worries me. I get the urge to lynch him, just to be sure he's really a townie. I'm not totally feeling the mafia vibe, but maybe it'll come.

JL, wth?!?! I am not gonna get on your case too badly, but man! You're usually more on top of your game than this! I know you've caught up and all, but missing day 1 is pretty icky.