Stendker Quality Discus?

I agree, it is in no way a form of torture. It keeps the discus from thrashing around while being readied for shipment. They are very calm when this is done. I have done it myself to more closely visually inspect a dicus. The tips of the dorsal fins of the discus are extremely sharp so they need to be handled cautiously for shipping and shipped in very thick bags to prevent the dorsal fins from ripping holes in the bags.
 
it happens when doing large water changes too.

I have seen discus tanks get virtually 100% water changes.. the discus simply lay on their sides until the water level rises.
 
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it happens when doing large water changes too.

I have seen discus tanks get virtually 100% water changes.. the discus simply lay on their sides until the water level rises.

so when I do my WC this shouldn't stress them out, right? I hope?!
 
flat side

look at this picture from that website

http://www.centralohiodiscus.com/af4.JPG

is it me or the discus are on the bottom of that pail? torture? loll

yeah! I have seen a lot of sellers/breeders (especially the importers of malaysian & indonesian discus) show pics with the strains flat on their sides but also on top of each other! how can that be a calming effect?? claustrophibia!
 
Who knows what goes through their minds when they are piled like that, it is certain that they don't do any thrasing at all though. I personally wouldn't do the 100% water change, but I do somewhere around 80%, their dorsal fins stick out of the water when I do water changes. They don't seem to mind at all.
 
Who knows what goes through their minds when they are piled like that, it is certain that they don't do any thrasing at all though. I personally wouldn't do the 100% water change, but I do somewhere around 80%, their dorsal fins stick out of the water when I do water changes. They don't seem to mind at all.

when you do WC, do you use conditioners since it's so much to chg at one time? which do you use? Prime?

aging water I would need a large garbage can.
 
I've never aged my water though my water is very stable. All you need to do if you have chlorines/chloramines is either dose the water that you are putting into the tank or dose the tank for a full dosage before you add the untreated water. Prime is an excellent water conditioner to use.
 
My water is stable so no need to age. Empty with the python, doing gravel vaccing the whole time. Adjust temp at the faucet to match tank, add a full dose of conditioner to the water left in the tank, I happen to prefer NovAqua+ which my fish prefer too, and fill 'er up! I position the python to stream the clean water at the side of the tank to do some offgassing. I actually do all my tanks this way every week, the fish love all that fresh water. Except my fry tanks which I do nearly every day!
 
I change 60 to 70% of my discus tank water every other day, with about a 10% on the off days to pick up uneaten food and poop. I have accidentally drawn the water down too far before and my discus don't care for that at all. They get nervous and sometimes thrash if I move too quickly near the tank when the water's down too low. Otherwise, they seem to enjoy the new water infusions. I use prime and sometimes sodium thiosulfate, depending on whether the local water co. is shocking the system.

Mark
 
My water is also very stable.

I do at least 50% 2X week. on tho I have slipped and done much greater changes.(90%+) the Discus and Angels never got really stressed. they just lie flat and go back to vertical as the water level rises.

I think a big factor in avoiding stress is getting the Fish use to your intervention and maintenance schedule.
 
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