Mafia #53.5 Rock the Vote

plantling said:
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And Rocker, it's been asked about but why did you vote 3rd on Zaffy? Did you realize you were the 3rd vote when the other candidates just had one or two?
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Yeah, I wanna know too, right now I'm sitting here as leading vote getter on 3 votes with 0 reasons given. I accept one as day one arbitrary bush kicking or what ever. The 2nd, sure why not, just to spice things up. But a 3rd half an hour later makes me, and several others wonder.

Why are you dodging it? You've posted after you were called out on it, what's the deal?

I retract my vote for Dangerdoll and vote to lynch Rocker 92

My vote for Dangerdoll was totally without reason, I said so much in the voting post. This one I feel, at least for now, is justified by Rockers suspicious voting and evasion of the call out.
 
Right now, top three are Ogre, Jpap and DD.

Ogre and Jpap becuase I feel like they are distancing in their posts. They seem to be at odds, but it feels off to me. Can't put a concrete reason on it. DD because I feel like her posts are totally about putting doubt on other players, but not contributing as per her normal style.

What I don't like about this is I have narrowed in on posters who are here. With so many playing (and so many not having checked in) I feel like the chances of all 3 being baddies are pretty slim. But that's where I stand right now. I like my vote on Ogre, but am willing to switch to jpap.

*g/o* We are living it up and enjoying every last moment of our summer vacay. Friends are coming over tomorrow at 2, and will probably stay until fairly late at night. I will check in tomorrow morn, but then not again until Tuesday. *g/o*
 
Zaffy said:
Yeah, I wanna know too, right now I'm sitting here as leading vote getter on 3 votes with 0 reasons given. I accept one as day one arbitrary bush kicking or what ever. The 2nd, sure why not, just to spice things up. But a 3rd half an hour later makes me, and several others wonder.

Why are you dodging it? You've posted after you were called out on it, what's the deal?

I retract my vote for Dangerdoll and vote to lynch Rocker 92

My vote for Dangerdoll was totally without reason, I said so much in the voting post. This one I feel, at least for now, is justified by Rockers suspicious voting and evasion of the call out.
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as far as I can see, there were only 2 other people who questioned this.... jpappy and plant. What makes you say "several other people"?
The reason this post in particular weighs pretty heavy is because I am used to you being havy worded and concise. You seem to work at being clear with your choice of words.... but to say "several others" as opposed to "a couple other".... Could I be giving you too much credit? I dunno... it just doesn't sit right with me. So.... when you say "several others", you talking about another board or a chat room.... ?
 
What are the rules regarding if multiple people equally have the most votes against them?
 
... the reason I ask is that it looks like there are those trying to lynch Zaffy and those trying to get him "not lynched" by placing suspicion on Rocker.

Either group could be mafia... I think it safe to assume one of those two groups are mafia... therefore I put close to 50% chance on each of Zaffy and Rocker being Mafia.

Maybe the 3 votes for Zaffy were random first day events... or maybe a mafia conspiracy. Maybe trying to place blame on Rocker is to prevent a mafioso being lynched... or maybe it's real suspicion on rocker.

If two people both have the same vote count and both get lynched (if that's how the rules work)- it would work out statistically better for the innocents if the vote is co-ordinated so the late votes through retraction, etc, so that they both end up getting lynched... even if one is innocent, as long as the other is mafia it is to the innocent's benefit is it not since we outnumber them.

Statistically to show my point... say if there started out 2 mafia and 10 innocents (just as a sample) - 1/5 is mafia... if one of eached get lynched it goes down to 1 mafia 9 innocents- 1/9 are mafia.
 
Wycco said:
... the reason I ask is that it looks like there are those trying to lynch Zaffy and those trying to get him "not lynched" by placing suspicion on Rocker.

Either group could be mafia... I think it safe to assume one of those two groups are mafia... therefore I put close to 50% chance on each of Zaffy and Rocker being Mafia.

Maybe the 3 votes for Zaffy were random first day events... or maybe a mafia conspiracy. Maybe trying to place blame on Rocker is to prevent a mafioso being lynched... or maybe it's real suspicion on rocker.

If two people both have the same vote count and both get lynched (if that's how the rules work)- it would work out statistically better for the innocents if the vote is co-ordinated so the late votes through retraction, etc, so that they both end up getting lynched... even if one is innocent, as long as the other is mafia it is to the innocent's benefit is it not since we outnumber them.

Statistically to show my point... say if there started out 2 mafia and 10 innocents (just as a sample) - 1/5 is mafia... if one of eached get lynched it goes down to 1 mafia 9 innocents- 1/9 are mafia.
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A random choice is made from the players with the same amount of votes.

I don't know if there is a conspiracy or just a chance to vote off a player easily by dropping a vote on a person who already has multiple votes. Either way it needs looked at.
 
Wycco said:
... the reason I ask is that it looks like there are those trying to lynch Zaffy and those trying to get him "not lynched" by placing suspicion on Rocker.

Either group could be mafia... I think it safe to assume one of those two groups are mafia... therefore I put close to 50% chance on each of Zaffy and Rocker being Mafia.

Maybe the 3 votes for Zaffy were random first day events... or maybe a mafia conspiracy. Maybe trying to place blame on Rocker is to prevent a mafioso being lynched... or maybe it's real suspicion on rocker.

If two people both have the same vote count and both get lynched (if that's how the rules work)- it would work out statistically better for the innocents if the vote is co-ordinated so the late votes through retraction, etc, so that they both end up getting lynched... even if one is innocent, as long as the other is mafia it is to the innocent's benefit is it not since we outnumber them.

Statistically to show my point... say if there started out 2 mafia and 10 innocents (just as a sample) - 1/5 is mafia... if one of eached get lynched it goes down to 1 mafia 9 innocents- 1/9 are mafia.
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It is pretty rare that mafia will all vote together, especially on night one; it makes it too easy to figure out who is who. as it stands now, rocker is not tied with zaffy nor in the lead with votes unless my tracking is wrong. I show a 3 way tie with Kashta, Luvbugz & Zaffy.
In the case of a tie, the mod will use a random generator to determine who gets lynched.....
 
Wycco said:
... the reason I ask is that it looks like there are those trying to lynch Zaffy and those trying to get him "not lynched" by placing suspicion on Rocker.

Either group could be mafia... I think it safe to assume one of those two groups are mafia... therefore I put close to 50% chance on each of Zaffy and Rocker being Mafia.

Maybe the 3 votes for Zaffy were random first day events... or maybe a mafia conspiracy. Maybe trying to place blame on Rocker is to prevent a mafioso being lynched... or maybe it's real suspicion on rocker.

If two people both have the same vote count and both get lynched (if that's how the rules work)- it would work out statistically better for the innocents if the vote is co-ordinated so the late votes through retraction, etc, so that they both end up getting lynched... even if one is innocent, as long as the other is mafia it is to the innocent's benefit is it not since we outnumber them.

Statistically to show my point... say if there started out 2 mafia and 10 innocents (just as a sample) - 1/5 is mafia... if one of eached get lynched it goes down to 1 mafia 9 innocents- 1/9 are mafia.
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Reading over a little more and now I am curious why you are so worried about the 3 votes on zaffy? there are 3 votes on two other players but these dont concern you? Just seems a little wierd.....
 
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