I understand what you are saying and it is logical; I am just more uncomfortable with the train that formed on Zaffy at this point. There are also trains on Kashta and Bugz; Kashta being a doubled vote from Bugz plus Ice; and the train on Bugz due to her flub and following defense, altho I just dont see a case for either one at this point.
Mafia #53.5 Rock the Vote
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I understand what you are saying and it is logical; I am just more uncomfortable with the train that formed on Zaffy at this point. There are also trains on Kashta and Bugz; Kashta being a doubled vote from Bugz plus Ice; and the train on Bugz due to her flub and following defense, altho I just dont see a case for either one at this point.
Back in the game again. I sure hope Day 2 moves along a little better... Day 1 just drives me nuts. Picking up from where I left off yesterday... my suspect list is still real sketchy. But it's time for us to pin things down the best we can.
Those of you who don't like long posts are really gonna hate this one. But I don't feel like splitting it up into pieces. I'm also not sure how much time I'll have today so I'll place my real vote now.
I revoke my vote against Madcrawdad and vote to lynch Luvbugz.
Any of us could point to a dozen other people with suspicion for one reason or another, but I'm putting my vote on Luvbugz because she's totally lying in this game. This is a basic fact now in Luv's case.. not just suspicion or allegations being raised. It's also been confirmed already by other people who've played with Luvbugz previously in at least 2 other mafia games (one where she was mafia; the other where she was innocent).
For some reason, Luvbugz decided to claim innocence and dimwittedness as her primary defense when there was no reason for her to do this at all. I don't see anybody else lying to us so blantantly in this game (yet) and taking this approach is definitely not necessary if you're an innocent townie.
I don't have anything nearly as strong to go with for other suspects. I've looked back through DD's posts and don't think she's playing an "off" game the way Fire characterized it. That makes me wonder about Fire's role now, so I'll watch that more.
Dawg seems consistent with his previous style of play... he doesn't give us anything to go on, is generally helpful in his posts, but never sticks his neck out.
I think my game always bothers Ice and I don't feel that his vote on me carries real weight. I don't see any mafia "strategy" behind it either to set me up. It's too early in this game for that anyway. There's no need for the mafia to do anything the first day or two.. townpeople usually take each other out instead. I also expect I'd draw Ice's suspicion in any game even when we're both innocent. So I don't see him as a suspect. I am puzzled by Ice's accusation on MC earlier, though. MC switching his vote to FD (because of the previous game where she got him lynched on Day 1) was obvious and IMO didn't need explanation. Ice would have known that too, I believe.. as closely as he follows these games even when he's not playing in them.
Johnlarson seems totally innocent/helpful... straightforward with his answers, like always. But he's truly evil, regardless of role. Oh wait, John's modding this time... nevermind. << saves that for next game >>
Jpappy was the first to give us a vote count.. then 15 minutes later, accused Zigman of (knowingly) placing the 3rd vote on Zaffy. Was Zig deliberately putting Zaffy on top? I doubt many people were already following who had how many votes against them yet at that point. I couldn't have told anyone which players were already in the running yet. Even the mafia was most likely still randomly voting anyone who wasn't on their team.. or voting each other to distance themselves. So Zig was probably not paying that much attention to the placement of his vote. That jpappy made something more of that so fast raises some suspicion in my mind.
I'm always going to wonder about Rich the way he's burned us before. Rich is always something of a sleeper. Participation stays very low key regardless of role... which is treacherous when he's mafia.
Those of you who don't like long posts are really gonna hate this one. But I don't feel like splitting it up into pieces. I'm also not sure how much time I'll have today so I'll place my real vote now.
I revoke my vote against Madcrawdad and vote to lynch Luvbugz.
Any of us could point to a dozen other people with suspicion for one reason or another, but I'm putting my vote on Luvbugz because she's totally lying in this game. This is a basic fact now in Luv's case.. not just suspicion or allegations being raised. It's also been confirmed already by other people who've played with Luvbugz previously in at least 2 other mafia games (one where she was mafia; the other where she was innocent).
For some reason, Luvbugz decided to claim innocence and dimwittedness as her primary defense when there was no reason for her to do this at all. I don't see anybody else lying to us so blantantly in this game (yet) and taking this approach is definitely not necessary if you're an innocent townie.
I don't have anything nearly as strong to go with for other suspects. I've looked back through DD's posts and don't think she's playing an "off" game the way Fire characterized it. That makes me wonder about Fire's role now, so I'll watch that more.
Dawg seems consistent with his previous style of play... he doesn't give us anything to go on, is generally helpful in his posts, but never sticks his neck out.
I think my game always bothers Ice and I don't feel that his vote on me carries real weight. I don't see any mafia "strategy" behind it either to set me up. It's too early in this game for that anyway. There's no need for the mafia to do anything the first day or two.. townpeople usually take each other out instead. I also expect I'd draw Ice's suspicion in any game even when we're both innocent. So I don't see him as a suspect. I am puzzled by Ice's accusation on MC earlier, though. MC switching his vote to FD (because of the previous game where she got him lynched on Day 1) was obvious and IMO didn't need explanation. Ice would have known that too, I believe.. as closely as he follows these games even when he's not playing in them.
Johnlarson seems totally innocent/helpful... straightforward with his answers, like always. But he's truly evil, regardless of role. Oh wait, John's modding this time... nevermind. << saves that for next game >>
Jpappy was the first to give us a vote count.. then 15 minutes later, accused Zigman of (knowingly) placing the 3rd vote on Zaffy. Was Zig deliberately putting Zaffy on top? I doubt many people were already following who had how many votes against them yet at that point. I couldn't have told anyone which players were already in the running yet. Even the mafia was most likely still randomly voting anyone who wasn't on their team.. or voting each other to distance themselves. So Zig was probably not paying that much attention to the placement of his vote. That jpappy made something more of that so fast raises some suspicion in my mind.
I'm always going to wonder about Rich the way he's burned us before. Rich is always something of a sleeper. Participation stays very low key regardless of role... which is treacherous when he's mafia.
I'm fairly sure that either Rocker OR Zaffy is mafia. I hope I'm right. If Zaffy turns out to be Mafia- then we know that those that protected him are likely also Mafia.
If Rocker turns out to be mafia though unfortunately it doesn't mean much about the first two votes against Zaffy because prior to Rocker he wasn't a main contender and Rocker could simply have picked an innocent who looked most likely to get lynched.
Dunno... impossible to tell- gut tells me Zaffy though. That and- effectively it only took one vote to put Zaffy as a leading candidate- it took two three to catch Rocker up to him. (I can't remember if he was already on a vote or not and am too lazy to look back and check).
If Rocker turns out to be mafia though unfortunately it doesn't mean much about the first two votes against Zaffy because prior to Rocker he wasn't a main contender and Rocker could simply have picked an innocent who looked most likely to get lynched.
Dunno... impossible to tell- gut tells me Zaffy though. That and- effectively it only took one vote to put Zaffy as a leading candidate- it took two three to catch Rocker up to him. (I can't remember if he was already on a vote or not and am too lazy to look back and check).
This is the second time you've implied people are protecting me. Care to drop some names? Who is running to my aid? I'd like to give them a cookie.
Nope, german, english, mish-mash.
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Well the votes swings are beginning to happen, I fiugred that it would have to start soon. I'm holding on Luv, the whole rocker thing doesn't really make much since to me. I have puppy school tonight so I will miss nightfall.
not necessarily. it is very likely that those that seem to be "protecting" Zaffy could also be innocents themselves, even if Zaffy is mafia.
You mean he accused rocker rather than zigman. For the same reason that I later accused rocker. And rocker has not addressed despite his activity in the thread immediately after jpappy calling him out on it.
As I said I need to change my vote since it appears that TRS is not playing this round. So I decided to start with the current top 3 suspects and vote for the one who I feel is most likely to be mafia.
First vote for Kash was on RB. This is her opening post/vote so I didn't pay much attention as most people just picked at random. Then she decided to switch her non-vote to another non-vote (seen in her post below) and came up with an elaborate reason as to why she should come off of one person not playing the game onto another person not playing the game.
Then when questioned on it she posted this...
For not being a vote switcher she has come up with some elaborate reasons to switch her vote while still making disclaimers as to why she will be switching her vote again. If you knew you weren't going to stay on Mad why make the switch at all? Ah yes because, "The reason I'm doing it is because I think it's good for me and my game play to get more comfortable switching my vote around." I have a hard time believing that Kash needs to practice switching her vote so she will be better at it.
Then this vote switch above...I think this post makes the most sense of all the previous vote switches. She makes an OMGUS vote on Luv. I just have a problem with the previous vote switching and her explanation of it. Something just doesn't seem right to me.
I retract my vote for TRS and I vote to lynch Kash
First vote for Kash was on RB. This is her opening post/vote so I didn't pay much attention as most people just picked at random. Then she decided to switch her non-vote to another non-vote (seen in her post below) and came up with an elaborate reason as to why she should come off of one person not playing the game onto another person not playing the game.
Then when questioned on it she posted this...
For not being a vote switcher she has come up with some elaborate reasons to switch her vote while still making disclaimers as to why she will be switching her vote again. If you knew you weren't going to stay on Mad why make the switch at all? Ah yes because, "The reason I'm doing it is because I think it's good for me and my game play to get more comfortable switching my vote around." I have a hard time believing that Kash needs to practice switching her vote so she will be better at it.
Then this vote switch above...I think this post makes the most sense of all the previous vote switches. She makes an OMGUS vote on Luv. I just have a problem with the previous vote switching and her explanation of it. Something just doesn't seem right to me.
I retract my vote for TRS and I vote to lynch Kash
1st I'd like to say your suspect list seems more to me a list of players that scare you more then players you think are mafia.
2ndly I'd like to touch on the bolded statement.
Why wouldn't it need explanation? He 1st voted one person then switched less then 15 minutes later. Just because someone voted someone the game before doesn't automatically me they vote them next game. Guess I don't hold grudges like that and therefore wouldn't do it so why expect someone else would. If he stated that explanation when he did the vote change I'd never have brought it up. Throwing the reason afterward looks like he is covering his ***. It could be a true reason but I'm not going to buy it hook line and sinker just because he said so.
Thought about moving the vote while at work now I'm not so sure.
this i can see, in a sense. the whole "clueless" persona going on with Luvbugz is just too good to be true. she was being severely defensive earlier in this "day," and in fact circled herself with doubt. i have to say it wasnt necessarily the action that is causing any suspicion, it was the scene that followed afterwords. her actions were very strange indeed, and Luvbugz should be watched very closely from now on.
if i could vote, it would be on Luvbugz...
