Mafia 54:Vampires Return (The Play)

[johnlarson66]

Gosh yesterday afternoon was busy- everyone is determined to make me late for work each morning.



RB- very quiet- refuses to name suspects which seems very odd.
Coler- I'm not as convinced as most- doesn't seem concentrated on one area anymore... worth watching but I'm leaning innocent.
JL- I'm pegging JL as extremely suspicious. All over the place now and early seemed determined to get Kash sent off for some rather pedantic reasons... obviously an intelligent guy but his posts lack reasoning and instead seem to focus on the pedantic to blow smoke.
Zsand- no idea.
Jm- no idea. Not worried about his picks- if last game is an indicator seems to frequently vote the same as the masses even when innocent. He's doing the same this time. I bet he is good at Family Feud.
Annie- no clue
Kash- she's posting some suspicious posts... but I think that's just her personality. Personally, I'd be surprised if she were a vampire.
Ogre- that one comment about the lead vampire laughing just sticks in my head. No other reason to be suspicious really.
Zaffy- no clue. I don't think his saving himself means guilt- but I've seen nothing to suggest innocence. Watch list for now.
Noodles- Something about the way noodles writes makes her sound guilty... it did last game too and she was guilty but I have no strong evidence at this time.
Dawg- hard to tell.
Rocker- Rocker is quiet but he was last game too- I suspect his style.
Wycco- Definately innocent.
Lanimret- not really saying much... comments on Zaffy make me a little suspicious but I'm not convinced.
Rich- haven't made a mind up yet.
Paperdragon- I think votes are rather random and not placed on game-play but I don't put this down to guilt because they really don't seem to be helping the vampires either way.

I don't see jpap on this list.

 

[OgreMkV]

This is Ogre thinking out loud.

If Noods is staked and a vampire: Then I will tend to think Rb and Jpap are more innocent than not. Yes, she could be a sacrificial goat, she as much as said, it would be a relief to not play.

If noods is staked and is innocent: I'm not sure how to think of Rb in this case. Is he a vamp and suckered noods? Of course, I did some research and some Jpap was kinda off. So would Rb just have been laying a trap? I think I would have to think that Jpap is a vamp and that Rb is "probably innocent". That's in quotes because I'm not sure I believe it. It could easily be a distancing tactic for two of the vamps (Rb and Jpap)... "Hey, what about him?" If 'him' is killed and a vamp, then the guy (Rb) who originally said it is much more likely to be thought of as innocent.

If Jpap is staked and is found to be a vamp: Then, again RB is "probably innocent" though I wonder how he came up with that conclusion. Noods, may be innocent or a vamp that just followed Rb thinking it would be an easy lynch victim that she could hide in.

If Jpap is staked and found innocent: Then Rb almost must be a vampire. He probably set Jpap up and wanted to see who would follow his 'suggestion' and then he could hide amongst everyone voting that way or, declare that whoever followed him is probably a vamp and jump on them as well. Of course, the same could be true if Jpap is a vamp, just someone to turn and use as a sacrifice.

So, does anyone think that Rb is a good-guy power role twice in a row? Otherwise, the whole Jpap thing is a total shot in the dark.

I think it's also interesting that almost everyone thinks Jpap is evil, but still not willing to vote for him (me included). Noods seems to be the leading vote getter because of one vote switch. Jpap seems to have a lot more against him, but it's all subjective rather than something easily pointed to.

At this point, I would be happy voting either noods or Jpap. I think we'll learn a lot from one of these two. I would include Rb here, but I'd like to give him the benefit of the doubt... the Jpap statement is really where the truth about Rb lies. Maybe I should switch to Jpap...

Crap... I hate this part.

 

[jpappy789]

I will move Ogre up a wee notch as regards my degree of suspicion of him. He is a very bright guy who knows well how to play this game (in fact introducing it to the site).

In considering Zaffy as a suspect I am very conscious also that if he is innocent he is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay easily the best choice for the vampires to steer the vote towards today, having the whiff of sulphur about him from last night.

Riddle me this before I go back and re-read the dross in D1...what put Zaffy up there as a suspect in the first place ?[/QUOTE]





Jpap, if you care to read the above posts, I was not defending my vote on Zaffy; coler proposed that people go back and identify what put Zaffy up there as a suspect; which I did as I had been wavering on my vote for him all day. Again, I was not defending my vote for Zaffy, merely stating why I voted for him and in the process identified to myself that it was pretty weak and almost retalitory for him saving his own skin. While it is still a scummy move, zaffy is also somewhat of a newb. I think there are much bigger fish to fry. I do not see anything suspicious or scummy that Coler has done and I am more leery of you and dawg, hence my vote.

panicking? You are so sure I am scum? Why cause I am not on the same team as you? Thank God!

Noods, did you even read through what Coler was talking about? He specifically was asking about day one. You did not vote Zaffy day one yet felt the need to pop in and justify you vote for Zaffy today.

What still makes absolutely no sense is that you suspected me because I voted Coler (early in the day too) and you thought he was innocent...yet Coler thought Zaffy was innocent and you defended (yes you defended your vote don't try to twist that) your vote. See how bass ackward that is?

How sure am I? Not very sure...wait, no...yes I am very sure. And I am positive that tonights lynch will show that you have blood stains on your hands.

I too am glad we are not on the same team...I don't like sleeping in coffins, I prefer my own bed.

 

[Wycco]

John, pain in the butt to quote when over multiple posts but here we go- your record from the last few hours:


Post #475: Defence of Noods - yet remaining seperate

I am not comfortable with the switch to noods or the people switching to noods. I also don't like how she asked people to join her on votes for jpap and never really understood her reason for even voting jpap.

Doesn't like people voting on Noodles- yet keeps a slight suspicion on her over her vote for Jpap... just for defense sake and to look seperate I guess.

Post #478: Defence of Noods - yet fake seperation

I don't think you will be out tonight. I don't like your "that is unfortunate for the innocents".
I do think your play style has changed, but I don't think that means you are evil, but I do think you are posting different, maybe just less, but there is some sort of change. It could be the tone of your posts. Hard to explain.

OK- she won't be out tonight (because she is so obviously innocent I presume) - you use playing style as an example to fake seperate yourself (yet accuse me of using that irrationally below).

Post #502: Defence of Noods- yet fake seperation

So between the three, I have noods leaning innocent, Rb not giving enough information, and jpap leaning vampire.

Claiming Noodles is innocent. Yet leaving on the list so you can say later "I had her on my list".

Post #504: Defence of Noods

I am not sure why you think I am a vampire, something about my posting style from day one. I think that is the same case for noods. I think you are just lashing out at past active players and really have no clue how to look for scum.

Apparantly because I suspect Noods it's because I don't have a clue how to play. And no, it's not just playing style (although it is extremely suspicious on both your parts- as quoted days earlier- it's the egging on of the whole Kash/Coler debate when no egging was needed- the strong defence of "no reason to suspect veterans more". etc.

Post #505: Defence of Noods

To save your rear, like Zaffy?

In response to JPap saying his vote for Noodles is obvious.

Post #509: Defence of Noods

The fact that Rb said to look at jpap and then votes noods doesn't make any sense either.
...
I am fairly confident that one of you is a vampire. I am okay in going in order: jpap, Rb, and noods.

Distancing yourself from noods- by including her on list- yet at the same time making her seem at best a third choice and above an irrational choice by Rb.




So those are your last 6 posts... 6 posts defending Noodles in the last 3 hours... that's a defense of her every 30mins on average. I can understand one or two if you think she's innocent- but 6 sounds like definate protection going on.
Why is she the lead vampire? I guess she's switching that over to someone else tonight... probably not you since you'll be prime suspect after 6 defences of her in 3 hours if she is staked and found guilty.

There is definately a connection between the two of you- and the only reason you'd be connected is if you're both guilty.

 

[noodles62]

Noods, did you even read through what Coler was talking about? He specifically was asking about day one. You did not vote Zaffy day one yet felt the need to pop in and justify you vote for Zaffy today.

What still makes absolutely no sense is that you suspected me because I voted Coler (early in the day too) and you thought he was innocent...yet Coler thought Zaffy was innocent and you defended (yes you defended your vote don't try to twist that) your vote. See how bass ackward that is?

How sure am I? Not very sure...wait, no...yes I am very sure. And I am positive that tonights lynch will show that you have blood stains on your hands.

I too am glad we are not on the same team...I don't like sleeping in coffins, I prefer my own bed.

I disagree and refuse to argue the point any further. You are entitled to your opinion as am I.

 

[ZSandmann]

Was that the trap? Did he catch noods.

I think noods is playing different, even though I have been accussed of it myself, I think noods has had a major change in how she is playing. Which might not be a bad thing.

If noods is a vampire, she will implode soon enough. She is worse than Ogre at being evil.

Also, ZS what is up with the color coding on your fancy day two list? That much free time?

Yup I'm a fancy kind of guy

 

[noodles62]

:rofl: Wycco, you kill me.

If it takes lynching me to prove who is the real scum then please have at it. I would seriously suggest looking at those that are pushing so hard to get me out of the way. Hopefully the vamps turn will not go through tonite so we do not lose 2 innocents again.

 

[ZSandmann]

The vote swinging is beginning. Well we know they have three vamps on there team so we need to make this so they can't control the vote. That means I need to pull my vote off Zaffy and vote either pappy or noodles. I don't like that as I feel Zaffy is still the best suspect.

I retract my vote for Zaffy and vote to stake JPappy.

 

[Wycco]

The fact that Rb said to look at jpap and then votes noods doesn't make any sense either.

The more I try to make some sort of sense out of it, the more it seems there is something behind the scenes going on.

I am fairly confident that one of you is a vampire. I am okay in going in order: jpap, Rb, and noods.

That makes 7 posts in about 3 hours where you found it necessary to point out you don't think Noodles is likely guilty.

 

[ZSandmann]

I don't think noodles is a vamp and since JL and I are siamese twins it makes sense he would think so either.