Mafia 54:Vampires Return (The Play)

Since Noods will not address the fact that she, for no reason at all, defended her Zaffy vote...here is the progression.

This is Noods latest list up to that point. Notice how Zaffy is given the label of "scum". Not leaning scum like others, just scum.

noodles62 said:
ok - I will give a list too....I like lists.

Jpap - leaning innocent altho I will admit I am really close to being on the fence
RB - playing pretty much as he did last game.....quite and not offering much input= dont know
Coler - dont know...no feeling
JL - hard to trust and had fooled me too many times
Zsand - leaning innocent - ?
JM - off the top of my head I would say leaning scum
Annie - non existant
Kash - her posts are distracting and a bit too forceful; could see her as scum
Ogre - no idea....
Zaffy - scum; very anti town like behavior...
Dawg - see comments on JL
Rocker - leaning innocent
Wycco - I am leaning a little more scum on him right now
Lanimret - could see a team mate of Zaffy but leaning innocent right now
Rich - middle of trhe road as usual
Paper - ????

I think that is everyone that is still in the game. My vote is currently back on Zaffy but I could see myself moving to Kashta.....
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Here Coler brings up the stuff about Zaffy...please notice where he specifially states day one...

Coler said:
I will move Ogre up a wee notch as regards my degree of suspicion of him. He is a very bright guy who knows well how to play this game (in fact introducing it to the site).

In considering Zaffy as a suspect I am very conscious also that if he is innocent he is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay easily the best choice for the vampires to steer the vote towards today, having the whiff of sulphur about him from last night.

Riddle me this before I go back and re-read the dross in D1...what put Zaffy up there as a suspect in the first place ?
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Now coler brings up all of Zaffy's posts from Day one.
Coler said:
bs post



bs post note early post though.



Response to his friend's pretty jokey vote for him interesting that it wasn't taken off mind you - another bs post.



bs post.



another bs post.



Nothing much in it...the reference that he is going to vote for a vet as such certainly isn't borne out ultimately.



bs post.



a nothing post.



Just a bit of wierdness on this one - highlight it and it says 'is he not getting your pm's'...I presume he used a font which shows up better on a different site theme. But that also does scan with the question he asks Ogre - in an earlier post Ogre says 'Wycco please don't do that' and we know there are only 2 vamps on D1 so it can't arise from a Wycco, Ogre and Zaffy triangle.



more bs posting.



Finally saves himself/


So that's Zaffy's D1 posting...truth be told hand on heart...where is the suspicion coming from there.

And the final votes on Zaffi are from his friend Lani, who does know say that he is surprisd Zaffy saved himsel - but this seemed initially like a joky vote, Rich, who has said pretty much nothing, and Ogre, who has just made a case for Zaffy which totally sucks in logic.

Does it actually stack up...
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I bring up the shorthand reasons for Zaffy's first day votes.
jpappy789 said:
Ok, so now it's working...

Lam-joke vote
Rich-no reason other than to vote
Ogre-voted to make it even

I do see what you are saying Coler, why Zaffy was even up for the lynch in the first place makes no sense.
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Here's a little interaction between coler and rich about his day one vote
Coler said:
So presumably there is a post by Rich where he votes Zaffy yesterday...now he's got Zaffy down as 'don't like the vote switch or the posts since' on his list....strike any one as pretty incongruous ? You're willing to vote someone D1 and then you post up a sorta luke warmish hint on suspicion...this is my first steer on Rich and it ticks him slightly towards the scum side of the line for me.
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rich311k said:
I believe if you go through day one I later posted that I could see no clear candidate so I left the vote were it was. One of the first games I played you did this to me since I change ideas and do stay 100% consistent, I believe you were wrong then. I have back and forth on Zaffy all day, just not sure.
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Then Noods pops in...why? What was the reason for posting this?

noodles62 said:
I understand you questioning the votes and the reasoning for the votes on Zaffy, Coler. And in all honesty I can say that my motivation for my vote on him is his scummy late vote switch and his posts following. Not very "townie" like. It is a weak reason, that I will admit, and I am perfectly willing to switch my vote to someone that seems more scummy. I have already retracted once as I am not convinced myu vote is in the right place, but nothing else is sticking out to me right now.

I think I will take a nice hot shower and think a bit......I do not want to help take out an innocent just because he has made a "noob" mistake. *sigh* I hate to be led around and have thoughts/suspicions planted in my head. (Vamps have a way of doing that!)
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johnlarson66 said:
I don't see jpap on this list.
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Nope... he doesn't appear to be there... :)

I probably copied the list of people's names from him before I added my comments on each person. I remain unconvinced on Jpappy either way. I do think he has made some good points- and his suspect list is similar to what I suspect so as an innocent that makes me think he is innocent.

I think it unlikely he and Noods are on the same side... if Noods is guilty then assuming he isn't turned tonight I'd see him as likely innocent. If Noods is innocent then, suspicion would definately have to be placed on him.
 
Wycco said:
Nope... he doesn't appear to be there... :)

I probably copied the list of people's names from him before I added my comments on each person. I remain unconvinced on Jpappy either way. I do think he has made some good points- and his suspect list is similar to what I suspect so as an innocent that makes me think he is innocent.

I think it unlikely he and Noods are on the same side... if Noods is guilty then assuming he isn't turned tonight I'd see him as likely innocent. If Noods is innocent then, suspicion would definately have to be placed on him.
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Careful Wycco, it won't be long until JL or noods pushes for us as teammates...
 
This is what I am thinking.

LV-?
Turn#1-Noods
Turn#2-JL

I'm unsure on who the LV is but going off my list I might put Jm in that position. He's lying low enough to be the leader IMO. I would also suspect him of picking Noods and JL because of how well they play.
 
jpappy789 said:
Since Noods will not address the fact that she, for no reason at all, defended her Zaffy vote...here is the progression.

This is Noods latest list up to that point. Notice how Zaffy is given the label of "scum". Not leaning scum like others, just scum.



Here Coler brings up the stuff about Zaffy...please notice where he specifially states day one...



Now coler brings up all of Zaffy's posts from Day one.


I bring up the shorthand reasons for Zaffy's first day votes.

Here's a little interaction between coler and rich about his day one vote



Then Noods pops in...why? What was the reason for posting this?
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:thud: I responded to Colers post about why the suspicion on Zaffy! I took it as a general post to all, not anyone in specific and I posted my thoughts on it!!!! If that is all you have to go on for voting me......I dont even know what to say to that! :omg: Get over it. You are making my head hurt even more.
 
jpappy789 said:
This is what I am thinking.

LV-?
Turn#1-Noods
Turn#2-JL

I'm unsure on who the LV is but going off my list I might put Jm in that position. He's lying low enough to be the leader IMO. I would also suspect him of picking Noods and JL because of how well they play.
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I think JL was Vampire from day one. He was the first pick from the Lead Vampire is my guess.

I don't see him as Lead Vampire. Noods- didn't pick up on it until today- so she's might be the turn #2 pick... or the way JL is desperately trying to defend her- maybe she is the Lead Vampire.

ZSand thinks Noodles is innocent too- which were she to be the lead vampire would make him a suspect... but we'll never know unless bala tells us IF the lead vampire makes a switch at some point.

Maybe sand the day 2 pick. However Sand hasn't given me much reason to suspect him before today- and he could legitimately be an innocent who thinks Noodles is an innocent. He's far from a sure thing.
 
jpappy789 said:
Good. I like it when I make the vampires heads hurt.

How do you not see the whole conversation about DAY ONE. You responded talking about DAY TWO. Admit it, you dropped the ball on that one Noods.
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Whatever............
 
I really don't have a huge opinion on which was which turn.

It was pointed out that Noods was just playing oddly from the beginning.

JL stepped up the posting yesterday which caught my eye.

I am thinking that it's a JL/Noods team for sure. Jm is 50/50 on being LV but it really could be anyone. He's just been a suspect of mine.
 
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