Mafia 54:Vampires Return (The Play)

[Wycco]

Yeah, we certainly can't confirm either Kash or Rich are safe... My first thoughts was- Kash responded so quickly- surely if she had been converted she would have had to consider her situation- perhaps consult with the vampires or look who they were before rashly posting on JM.

There again- if she hadn't read she had been converted BEFORE posting she might have done JM anyway.

 

[Kashta]

You have to suspect me as much as anyone else. I wish I could help but I keep changing my mind, too. They need the priest to stop you, they need someone quiet, they need someone who isn't suspected, or who is suspected because it's obvious.

I can't decide who I would pick either if I was on the team. Or who I'd investigate if I were you.

 

[Wycco]

If Ogre had been on the vampire team at that time they would have played a much better hand.

I don't know- they've had JPap and JL so they've had two experienced players.

The JPap issue confuses me- Especially since, without vampire votes he wouldn't have got lynched.

Ogre did not vote for JM last night. If JM is a vampire that is coincidental evidence- not strong- but goes along with the theory they were on the same team before nightfall... I don't think with only two vampires left they would risk voting for each other.

Ogre has been playing a fairly safe game every round- he has avoided controversy all along. Again- perhaps just coincidental evidence but lends to the fact he could have been vampire all along.

It is of course impossible to tell- but I think he is the original vampire.

 

[Kashta]

I don't know- they've had JPap and JL so they've had two experienced players.

They still communicate with each other too. So it's still a coordinated decision.. thought process.

 

[Wycco]

If I were lead vampire- depending on if I had a switch left or not. If the vampires had a "switch lead vampire" role left- I'd try to get Paper Dragon. She is the only member of the group who is beyond approach at the moment. Switching lead vampire role to her in case of danger would be very safe.

If I didn't have a "switch lead vampire" role left- I'd go for someone experienced. Kash, Coler, or Rocker. Probably not Rich, Zaffy or JM- because all three have attracted votes and suspicion this game.


However- the Lead Vampire DIDN'T go for an easy to hide target such as Paper Dragon the previous night- they went for Dawg- an experienced player who was involved but not overly involved so could pass on fake ideas without being a prime suspect.

Trying to think along those lines I'm thinking Rocker was a strong possible target last night.

 

[Kashta]

Putting myself in the shoes of the seer I guess I would also be considering the possibility that a previous invest was turned last night along with everything else.

One reason however why I think Ogre was turned last night is his post claiming priestly powers - this is exactly the kind of deciciveness the vampire team needed when wycco came out in order to so confusion and even perhaps lynch the seer and they sorely lacked it.

If Ogre had been on the vampire team at that time they would have played a much better hand.

I dunno maybe I would investigate JM, although I believe him guilty...we have no guarantees that kashta remains innocent, we have equally no guarantees of course on rocker or heck anyone else.

I'd been thinking Ogre or JM was the first vampire. But Coler is right, Ogre could be the new one. JM could be the first or a later turn and the unknown vamp hasn't been picked up on yet.

John wasn't the first. We're not sure if Jpappy was first or not and the LV role got switched (to someone other than John). They can't switch it again if they did already.

This isn't a WIFOM anymore. It's more like 3 of them at the same time.

 

[paperdragon]

Ok, my brain's a little foggy, are you saying you think I am a vampire or that I'm not a vampire Wycco?
Not that it really matters, since if you do think I'm guilty all you have to do is investigate.

 

[Zaffy]

Wern't you?

It was a three way tie on 4 votes each... You could have switched your vote from JM to ZSand the same way JM switched his vote from you to ZSand.

It was the same situation, yet, you didn't.

No, the variables were different this time. My vote was on JM, so for me to change to Zsand I'd have removed my vote from JM. Annie had removed his vote from Zsand. So up until night fall it was 4-4 Me and JM, and Zsand with 3. While I was writing my last words post it all changed.

 

[Zaffy]

I don't know that Ogre is LV...I would expect a really vigorous response from his two team mates if that was so and everyone has voted except Rocker...

We had a pretty vigorous response from Annie last night. Is his tantrum telling us that the game is over tonight and he was just trying to muck the place up before it ends?

 

[Wycco]

Ok, my brain's a little foggy, are you saying you think I am a vampire or that I'm not a vampire Wycco?
Not that it really matters, since if you do think I'm guilty all you have to do is investigate.

I'm saying- if I were lead vampire- I would have tried to turn you last night.

BUT- I don't think that the current vampire team picked you. I'm leaning you as being innocent.