Mafia 55...Badlands Twisted...the Play...

Does this conern anyone else? Two low profile players so far this game jumped on MC right after each other...

I could see annie (who has yet to play as scum I think) following a vet teammate but I'm not going to count on it. I just thought it was too weird not to point out.

I'm still more concerned with Z being very quiet.
OMG...STOP IT! Now I want to switch my vote back to my original day one and put it on Z!!! He has me buggin like crazy then you point that out and now I just don't know what I want to do!
 
We really need to drum up more talk. I don't believe silence is going to help the town. It's early days yet- so don't take my list as hard and fast belief- just a few observations. It's hard to draw up lists so early on- but I really believe we need to get the commentary moving if we're to get hints on who is guilty.


wyc: The only person I can say with 100% certainty at this point is innocent.

lady G: Hard to tell- she hasn't done much suspicious- although with half a day left switching votes from one of the three main contenders to a non-contender is a little suspicious. (even if she raises a good point). I still lean her as innocent although that Noodles vote looks odd to me.

DD: I've not really formed an opinion on DD yet. Need to watch her a little to form an opinion. Not having any experience with her (other than her getting axed first day last game) I don't know what is normal.

rich: Rich is one of the quieter players- so you always have to keep an eye out for him- not on my radar yet.

zsnd: Many people point out ZSands quietness this game- it is concerning- but he's been quiet in the 2 games I've played so I don't know how to take it. To me he's a bit of an unknown. I don't fully think he deserves to be one of the three main targets this round- but it would be nice to know one way or another if he is guilty or not.

ann: Another quiet one so another one you have to always be concerned about. One thing I will say- when she got turned by the vampires last game she went from quiet to talkative in a heart-beat. So maybe we should be glad she's quiet this game.

dawg: I haven't really formed an opinion on Dawg yet. A couple of people have expressed suspicion of him so maybe I should. For now I see nothing incriminating.

rocker: Add to the quiet so hard to read category- those quiet type need to be watched.

jl66: JohnL to me is the most likely of all to be guilty. As I explained in an earlier post- there seems to be a lot of evidence building against him.

kash: Kash has said nothing that implies guilt- but normally miss talkative has been very quiet. I remember in a conversation with her once that she believed those that talk most are more likely guilty- I wonder if she's reversing that philosophy to make herself appear innocent. Not working- when you change your style that much it makes you suspect. Other than that- I see nothing to link Kash to being evil- just have to watch closely what little she does say.

mostly: I'm leaning guilty for Mostly Cichlids- but I'm not quite as sure as before. The late vote to break the balance and tip Bugz to be dead is a minor cause of worry. To me more incriminating was his statement that if he votes for JohnL he must be innocent. (not a paraphrase but that's what he was getting at). I think in his attempt to distance himself from JohnL he has linked the two of them together more.

jpap: JPap strikes me as leaning innocent at this point. But JPap worries me- I was certain prior to him being lynched he was innocent last game. He's a slippery fish. Still at this point I see him leaning innocent.

noodles: I have Noodles as leaning innocent at this point too. As Lady G pointed out- she has flip-flopped a bit- but on day 2 to flip-flop is easily forgiven- none of us can really be sure of anything.




So those are my thoughts for now- I can still be convinced I'm wrong on any of those points- it's too early to know who is guilty for sure- but I'm just throwing it out there to drum up more conversation and get the town talking. If we stay quiet the town will likely lose. We can't afford to vote randomly each day based on nothing.
 
A partial quote from Wycco -
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There seems to be quite a bit of evidence building up:

1) You voted for a known innocent.
2) You made a lot to do out of the whole Bugz/Bubb2 incidence.
3) It could be said that you had the most to gain by Ogre being taken out. You were who he had set his sights on.
4) You've been skimming. (or deliberately ignoring facts).
5) You appear to be panicing under the pressure of votes

...

1) I voted for you - as far as I know you are not a known innocent.
2) I did not make "a lot to do" out of the whole Bubb2 posting. I think it was odd that Buub2 partially posted a quote from you towards Luv. I also did not like the fact that Luv did not explain who Bubb2 was, but you did.
3) Becuase I had the most to gain by taking Ogre out, I would not have taken him out.
4) I have admitted to skimming in the past. I am a known skimmer. I do not know where I have skimmed this game or "deliberately ignoring facts". This is a total fabrication. I mentioned skimming in reference to jpap and dawg.
5) I have not paniced under the pressure of votes. As a matter of fact, it has been the exact opposite. I can handle having a few votes.

Wyyco, you seem to be trying real hard to build a case on me. I think you are just going to have to hit me. I doubt if the town will take me out for you.
 
I retract my vote on Wycco and vote to genetically test ZSandmann

ZS has not posted much and the posts that have been posted have been mostly jokes. While it is only day two. I think there has been a few things to comment on. I don't think this is very much ZS like and expected more.

While I think wycco's OMGUS case on me is weak at best. I am unsure if he is evil or clueless. Time will tell.
 
4) I have admitted to skimming in the past. I am a known skimmer. I do not know where I have skimmed this game or "deliberately ignoring facts". This is a total fabrication. I mentioned skimming in reference to jpap and dawg.

Yet you have a double standard- when myself and Pappy press you- you strike back at both of us and accuse Pappy of skimming- something which you yourself do- and obviously did in regards to the "you seem to have already decided I am guilty" post when I hadn't at that point even voted for you only expressed suspicion.

You've struck out at anyone who has been suspicious of you yet accuse me of an OMGUS vote- your entire suspect list is people who are suspicious of you.


5) I have not paniced under the pressure of votes. As a matter of fact, it has been the exact opposite. I can handle having a few votes.



Really you are not panicing?

OK- so since you were called on it.

post 186
What case did I build on Luv? Luv was freaking out and had me as a suspect.

Defending your Luv case.

post 187- notice the sequential order of posts here.
Bubb2 partially quoted Luvbugz post. Now I had no clue who Bubb2 was and I still have no clue why they were posting in our thread. I also never saw anything from Luv stating that was her father or even appologizing for her fathers post. To me it looked like a response from Wycco. I also found it odd that it was Wycco that stated in the game that Bubb2 was Luvbugz father.

One defence wasn't enough- you needed to post two in a row.


Post 188 - that's three in a row now
I find jpap, dawg and wyyco of interest. Odd that dawg would give up his vote. I really question how much of the game dawg has read himself. Being the last one to post on day one, who knows if he even read the rules. Same with jpap, who is normally on top of the rules completely missed the whole thing of the lab worker getting the votes. Both dawg and jpap appear to have skimmed the rules, but both seemed to have gone after MC for skimming.

Oh how interesting- people who have been suspicious of you are now your candidates. And why- for skimming - something you yourself did. At this point- you know the story behind the Bubb2 thing and still listed me- with no reason listed- other than from day one "I am in league with LuvBugz". LB was innocent- that's a dead end path!

post 189 4th post in a row
I can handle the heat. I really have not said much becuase there is really nothing to say. I think the hit on Ogre was odd. I don't think I would have been Ogre's number one suspect, but it is hard to say. I think Ogre has an overall general distrust of me as a player. Which I deserve.

Another defence- three in a row wasn't enough- four is needed... oh no, panicing is not a factor.

post 191- doh- two posts got between him and his 5-in a row
Not the posts in the game but the freaking rules. Now I am a skimmer. Big time. I have no problem admitting it. Sometimes I just need to get caught up. I play in "spurts". Skimming posts is different than reading the rules. I am known to do both, skim posts and skim rules.
I have some food for thought. I want people to be honest. When you have been evil and the game starts, do you spend your first few moments getting with your evil teamates or reading the rules?

Still going on against Pappy for skimming- still going after people that no-one else is investigating. Still defending yourself.






How are five posts (4 in a row- the fifth just a little too late) all five posts stating one of two points and all going after people that have expressed suspicion of you not panicing?
 
While I think wycco's OMGUS case on me is weak at best. I am unsure if he is evil or clueless. Time will tell.

One last thing- might I remind you that you said something very similar in the last game when I correctly identified you as being evil at a simliar stage in the game.
 
Wyyco, I have always posted in spurts with many posts in a row. I like doing that instead of one long post.
 
I think I also mentioned in the last game about quoting the actual quote instead of the cut and paste quotes. It is good to be able to click the quote to be able to put it in it's proper context. I think the bogus quotes are bad for the town.
 
Can you give an example of a "bogus" quote where I either misquoted you or took you out of context? Shouldn't be hard to do- if you're accusing me of bogus quoting I'd like to see where or how.
 
Your quotes are bogus because there is no way to click on them to put them in their proper context. They are partial quotes without stating they are partial.

If you think they cut and paste way of quoting is good, then by all means keep doing it. I think it is very anti-town and is very weak game play, but that is just my thoughts on it. I also don't like posting inside of quotes.
 
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