Mafia 55...Badlands Twisted...the Play...

[dirtydawg10]

Kash just curious how you know there are only 3 scientists. I have read the rules multiple times and see no mention of it.

Noods the case against you is more than a little slip up on your part.

Interesting since you said there are 3 scientists not maybe or at least or any thing like that. You said there are 3.

I changed to Wycco because as I said it made sense. I no idea what those others you mentioned were thinking. You need to ask them.

Nice catch Rich. This definitely requires some looking into.

 

[dirtydawg10]

I have answered all questions and explained myself until I am blue in the face. You all have made up your mind. I will go back over the thread at lunchtime and see what I can pull up that I find scummy just so you know where my thoughts were after I am gone...Maybe it will help, maybe not. Feels like I dont have much of a clue this game...

Explaining your thoughts on your vote switch to Wycco may help as well. To me it just seems like you gave up and voted your teammate because the writing was on the wall that Wycco would be gone. The same reasoning there was behind Wycco using the serum. This is the same reason why Rocker looks so bad. If you are a townie Noods and we are all making a big mistake as you say...you should be giving us some good info and not just whining about getting votes. I doubt you will get yourself off the hook at this point but you can always help the Town for tomorrow.

 

[ZSandmann]

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!

Nice pic, so you were telling us you were Dr. Gene all along with the avy huh?

Somebody remind me to ask Wycco after the game ends if he still thinks I'm being too quiet.

:rofl:

Indeed, awake the beast if ye dare.

For the record my top picks are Rocker, Kashta; I really am torn between Zsand and Rich and I feel that LG is in the mix too..........Just thought I would get that out there before you kill me off. Sorry townies that I screwed up and handed this game to the evils. Even though I do not agree that my little mess up is lynch worthy the evils are doing a good job getting you all to vote along with them.

Noodles I voted early on Wycco, and I admit it was based on the way he came at me. I can understand I was not participating but it seemed more like a set up. I think Dr. Gene was trying to take out the sleepers. So when you come back an ES I will go for Rich next since you lumped him with me. Thanks for giving me anothe rsuspect.

Interesting since you said there are 3 scientists not maybe or at least or any thing like that. You said there are 3.

I changed to Wycco because as I said it made sense. I no idea what those others you mentioned were thinking. You need to ask them.

I don't get it Rich, but it really looks like you are trying to set up Kash on a misphrasing. I think with Gene gone ya'll are panicing a bit.

My top three are
Noodles
Rich (Thanks Noodles)
Annie (Just for skimming under the radar. It's the reason I've voted for him each Day so far.)

 

[rich311k]

Nice pic, so you were telling us you were Dr. Gene all along with the avy huh?

Indeed, awake the beast if ye dare.

Noodles I voted early on Wycco, and I admit it was based on the way he came at me. I can understand I was not participating but it seemed more like a set up. I think Dr. Gene was trying to take out the sleepers. So when you come back an ES I will go for Rich next since you lumped him with me. Thanks for giving me anothe rsuspect.

I don't get it Rich, but it really looks like you are trying to set up Kash on a misphrasing. I think with Gene gone ya'll are panicing a bit.

My top three are
Noodles
Rich (Thanks Noodles)
Annie (Just for skimming under the radar. It's the reason I've voted for him each Day so far.)

I think you are protecting Kashta and you are working with her. She says in her answer it was 3 or 4 I think. I was going by what Pap said., but are quote says there are 3 not maybe not if there are 3 then. i was just pointing it out.

 

[Kashta]

Rich wants me to keep this short, so I'll abbreviate the quotes in most cases. Click the links to see them in full.

I've split this up into two posts. This first one shows how everything changed for the evil team approx. 3 hours before nightfall.

I suggested there appeared to be a connection between Wycco and Noods... then I switched my vote to Wycco... then Zsand voted Wycco... then Johnlarson voted Wycco. During this stage... there was a lot of discussion going back and forth. The evil team did what they could to deflect suspicion.. while multiple townies continued to post questions, rebuttals, observations.

The strongest "feeling" I'm getting so far today is with Wycco and Noodles.

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I retract my vote for ZSandmann and vote to genetically test Wycco.

Meh I retract my vote for Annie and vote to genetically test Wycco.

I am more than happy to see Wycco tested.

I retract my vote for ZSandmann and vote to genetically test Wycco.

Here's where I posted a followup to explain my vote. After that, I saw the other 2 votes on Wycco by Zsand and JL which posted during the interim.

I'll start now with this post from Wycco. I'll have to go back and look at some previous posts from him as well.. this just got my attention.

After this, Noodles posted a quick denial....

Whoa! nice try Kashta, but Wycco and I are in no way connected.....

However, the focus on both Wycco/Noodles continued.....

If Wycco comes up evil, then I can see a case for noods based on what Kash posted.

Noodles and Wycco were both under a lot of pressure all of a sudden. Here, Noodles gives another excuse for not voting Wycco. (Before this, her reason had been it would be her 6th vote change and that might make her look bad.)

checking in before I fix dinner.....I would happily vote for Wycco, but then if he turns up evil it will look like I moved just to blend in...darned if I do, darned if I dont....I think if Wycco does go and comes up innocent then I will look at Kashta pretty good. I just have a hunch she is evil this go 'round....I also think either DD or LG are scum....odds are good for at least one and I do not trust either of them...sorry girls!

and just what do you mean that it will only take a few votes to make me crack, JL?!! :silly:

Jpappy continues that dialogue with Noods here.

LOL, noods you're always confused about something but you can't possibly be mafia every time...its not just because of that. You've done something similar in the past and were a scumbag, which is why I mentioned it.

You're getting awfully defensive just because I brought you name to the surface. You had ONE vote and other players were more likely to be lynched (see below). I find it highly suspicious that you're afraid of changing votes just because people have talked about how many times you've already changed. Seriously, why so afraid to be in the spotlight?

Now, I said I was ignoring the banter between you and LG but I decided to look back. I'm curious as to specifically why you voted Lady G in the first place. You said her posts "struck you" and "seem phony" yet nothing other than that. I remember LG doing the exact same thing to me when she last played and she ended up on the evil team I believe. Its not just a feeling, otherwise you would have said just that, its something in her posts but no quotes or specific references. Suddenly LG became your next suspect (after MC) but I see no actual reasons, just a bunch of fluff. Its a nice mafia tactic because you dont have to dig deep into any posts and simply make up something about feeling bad about some posts (which sounds a lot better than only saying you have a gut feel) without any specifics.

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I'm still not sure on the JL-Wy issue so I don't want to make a wrong choice between them. Kashta has definitely made some good points about him though.

I retract my vote on Zs and vote to genetically test Noods

So now that votes pile on Wycco, you say you cant switch because either way you would look bad. More lame excuses...

Wycco is no where near to being a done deal for tonight. We have no clue what the actual vote count is (thanks Dawg) and theres almost 2 hours left before night.

Your hesitation is quite telling Noods...really, why are you not able to switch to Wycco, because it would put a teammate really in the lead or because you dont want to lynch an innocent?

Rich posts this now to acknowledge what's going on but says very little of substance.

This getting interesting. I see the case against WY, and JL is Jl so always a worry. I need to read all this again and rethink all of this.

Noods you are acting pretty squirrelly all of a sudden.

I dont entirely see the the Z thing I need to look at that again.

lady g I am not sure of.

Pap seems to be helpful.

Bad time for my eyes to act up. I will be squinting at this for a while.

Noods continues.. trying to defend herself. As a last resort she pretends not to know exactly what the vote count is.... the same tactic Annie fell back on too.

I know this sounds scummy but I am gonna say it anyway. I am busy and quite frankly exasperated at this point. If so many feel that I am scum then vote me off. When I turn up innocent who will you all look at next? I have pretty much lost couny but it looks like there are 3 votes for Wycco, 2 for me, 1 for Z, 2 for JL, 1 for Dawg and 3 for Mc and of course the mysterious lab workers extra vote..... It could go anyway.....we shall see.

Around the same time, Wycco and I exchanged a series of posts back and forth. He tried to counter the growing suspicion against him. But only managed to make himself seem even MORE guilty.

Wycco, you're not being accurate at all. I find that troubling, to be honest.

<<snipped>>

You're really working at twisting my position around, while I've been very clear to avoid just that sort of confusion when writing my posts.

JL agrees... and talks about other points which support the same supicions I had.

I have found Wycco's misrepresntation of facts to be disturbing. His so-called "case" against me is complete falsehood and he has failed to acknowledge my rebuttle to them.

Annie appears in the thread at this time.. gives reasons why she's not been posting... and so on.

The same RL issues that have affected me for the last two games continue to linger. Rather than gotten better they have gotten worse. I break up with my girlfriend of fours years and moved out during....

JL also questions Wycco about claims that don't hold up in Wycco's posts.

What is the trick? Is Kash behind the trick? ZS? Me? Are me and ZS working together? Me and Kash? Kash and ZS?

Do you really think this is some sort of co-ordination? Even if you come up as innocent, I really doubt the three of us are evil. I would be more concerned with Kash and ZS (and me) if you come up as evil. There is no way there is any co-ordination.

JL and Annie get into a discussion back and forth.

So Mr. Annie, are you going to keep your vote on MC?

Annie takes a mild shot at Noodles to keep from being associated with her.

Hmmmm...I think JL was right, you do seem to be cracking. And this post is scummy. Who are the "so many" that find you guilty??? I only see two votes on you. I moved my vote to MC for a similar post, crying "what are you gonna do when I come up innocent" is scummy to me.

While that was going on... Wycco and I continued our discussion.

Wycco.. if you're pro-town, why the hell build a case against anyone? That's what the mafia/evil side does. It makes no sense for you to even say this if you're innocent.

You're being inaccurate again.

Yes, it's true that you called Jpappy "leaning innocent" ... but you also went on to say "But JPap worries me" and that he's "a slippery fish" which are mitigating statements. That's what you didn't do when talking about Noodles. Then seeing nothing incriminating about me, Zs, or Dawg is also not calling us "slightly innocent" either.

Your attempt at splitting hairs now after defending Noodles is just making you look worse... IMO.

Wycco still tries to dismiss the points I made.

This is all rather silly isn't it.

That makes no sense whatsoever Kash. Of course if you notice someone as being guilty and notice evidence against them you point it out- that's the whole point of the game.

It was here that the evil team gave up trying to save Wycco. His game was over.... they all knew it. And that's when the rest of the evil team changed their votes over (almost) all at the same time. (Rocker was the last one to get his vote changed just before nightfall.)

Annie voted Noods to distance herself from the Noods/Wycco connection. Once Wycco goes down, it's obvious to them that Noodles will be next. In order for the evil team to still win this game, they need to keep ONE teammate alive. And with Wycco and Noodles exposed to be killed off... that leaves them with Rich, Annie, and Rocker to keep someone hidden.

I would move my vote to Noods. "What are you gonna do when I come up innocent" cries mafia, although thats why i moved my vote from you to MC. I think Noods did crack. I see Wycco as suspicious, but Noods moreso.

I retract my vote for MC and vote to test Noods.

See next post.....

 

[Kashta]

At this stage... we know Wycco/Dr. Gene had just sent his PM to Rbishop to use up the serum he had before he got killed. Rbishop posted a quick message in the thread as soon as he saw Wycco's PM... as per the game rules. The rest of this all came to a head very fast... in quick succession and within just a few minutes.

Everyone on the evil team had already decided now what to do about their votes....... knowing Wycco's role would soon be revealed to the town..

Bala sees Dr. Gene out and about early....most likely not up to anything good...

Within moments of Wycco sending his PM to Rbishop.. that is when Rich "decided" it made "the most sense" to vote for Wycco.

I retract my vote on MC and vote to genetically test Wy.

Makes the most sense to me right now.

Here, Noodles also gives up her reluctance to vote against Wycco.

well I will be gone either tonite or tomorrow night; makes no difference to me....if we are wrong on Wycco then I am a goner....:huh:

I retract my vote for Zsand and vote to gentically test Wycco. Let's see where that gets us......

Only a few minutes had gone by from the time Rbishop received Wycco's PM to the time he got the results of that serum typed up and posted.

Bala watches Dr. Gene administer a spray serum around an unsuspecting Townie....and watches in amazement as the person becomes almost as if two people....and sees the second being cast their vote just as the being from which it came did...

John commented about the significance of Dr. Gene's use of the serum at this particular time.

Seems like Dr. Gene E. Netics is getting a little nervous.

Wycco was soon to die >> both Rich and Noods managed to get their votes in against Wycco >> Annie opted to put her vote on Noods.

Time was running out... the last remaining player on the evil team (Rocker) still needed to hurry up and get his vote changed before nightfall.

Bala notes about 15 minutes to nightfall....PMs as required please...

Here, I believe Annie tries to protect herself from the fallout from Wycco/Noods by acting all confused about the vote count.... primarily because they knew both town votes and evil team votes were on Wycco already.

at 802 i voted for Noods. At 811 RB noticed the PM. What was the vote count, as of 802?

Here is the order of events

8:02PM

8:11PM

I'm drunk. Who was leading the votes at this point?

In the rules, it says RB activates the serum "as soon as he sees the PM". Is there a way to check what thread he was on between 802 and 811???

Here, Rocker gets his vote change in finally.

well, before night fall, i might as well join the train on wycco.

i retract my vote for dawg and vote to test wycco

And that was it... the whole game turned around for the evil team over the course of about 3 hours.

 

[rich311k]

Very nicely put together. You quoted a lot and said nothing.

As I said before I have no clue what motivated everyone else. i thought MC was a bad vote and decided Wy was a better one. I was right too. I will have to stop that.

 

[Dangerdoll]

sorry guys, haven't been to the thread (or the site) in a bit and missed nightfall..... nice that Dr Gene is gone!! woohoo!! Way to go!!

I think the vote today is clear from Wycco and Nood's interactions....

I vote to genetically test Noods

 

[Dangerdoll]

going to read what I've missed today...

 

[johnlarson66]

Is there anyone not voting noods?