Mafia #60: A Clash at Christmas- The Play

[IceH2O]

I am not worried about anyone scrutinizing the Rich train at all. And in reference to your other post about me jumping on that train; yes, I did jump on as my lone vote was useless and I did not agree with the train on JM. Looks like I was right to not jump on that one.....

I am gonna go ahead and throw my vote out there. I vote to lynch Ice. I think he knew JM was innocent and all the dancing around about everyone elses vote is just a distraction tactic. A bit worried about anyone scrutinizing the JM train? Perhaps because more than 1 scum was on that train??
The lame little argument between he and DD seems to be nothing more than distancing and she is next on my list of suspects. I am certain my vote will put me in the hot seat but thats ok. I like my vote and it will stay there.

I am not sure on rich, I didn't expect to come back to a train on him. I threw my vote out there because I didnt want to UD and had to go out of town. (christmas with the family) so I had no lead on rich. I feel ice is trying to get people off the JM train because he does not want people to get lynched because there is at leasst one mafia on there.
Ice wants people not to look who voted for the innocent go figure.
I vote to lynch ice.

I see how this goes. You hit Kash and act like a noob would do that even though I'd expect a Vet to do that. Then try to take out via lynch another loud mouth innocent so you can then hit a innocent that is among the quiet ones to throw off the scent.


I'm not worried about 2 votes,especially not your 2. I do find it funny that both of you are on the Rich train that I'm trying to get others to look at. Get nervous did we?

I can see why Noods is freaking. I have what I feel is a pretty good case but I want to see her crack more, her vote for me will not stop me from voting her if need be. She is my top suspect after last nights escapade.

Noods remind me what was so scummy about Rich that you thought a vote his way was better then sitting as a lone vote on Day 1?

Fire same question to you- what was so scummy about Rich that you thought a vote his way was better then sitting as a lone vote on Day 1?

Zaffy why Rich over anyone else? What was the scum tell?




TRS you say you went away for the weekend,1 day does not equate to a weekend and then someone said they saw you online at 3 PM Sunday. See below,Agi caught you online.

I vote to lynch Redbecause I agree that he is trying to lay low. I see that he is online now. Leaving on 3pm (Saturday) and returning around 2pm the next day is not exactly leaving for the weekend.

I'll give you that the train hadn't really started on Rich yet BUT you could have switched your vote to someone you thought was actually evil if you were in fact looking for evil.

 

[noodles62]

I see how this goes. You hit Kash and act like a noob would do that even though I'd expect a Vet to do that. Then try to take out via lynch another loud mouth innocent so you can then hit a innocent that is among the quiet ones to throw off the scent.


I'm not worried about 2 votes,especially not your 2. I do find it funny that both of you are on the Rich train that I'm trying to get others to look at. Get nervous did we?

I can see why Noods is freaking. I have what I feel is a pretty good case but I want to see her crack more, her vote for me will not stop me from voting her if need be. She is my top suspect after last nights escapade.

Noods remind me what was so scummy about Rich that you thought a vote his way was better then sitting as a lone vote on Day 1?

Fire same question to you- what was so scummy about Rich that you thought a vote his way was better then sitting as a lone vote on Day 1?

Zaffy why Rich over anyone else? What was the scum tell?




TRS you say you went away for the weekend,1 day does not equate to a weekend and then someone said they saw you online at 3 PM Sunday. See below,Agi caught you online.



I'll give you that the train hadn't really started on Rich yet BUT you could have switched your vote to someone you thought was actually evil if you were in fact looking for evil.

1. I am not the one that hit Kash. I am pretty sure it was you and your team that hit her. You kinda lost me on the second part of that paragraph....not sure what you are getting at...

2. I am not "freaking" in the least. I am perfectly calm and quite positive of my vote on you. this confimrs it even more....

3. I never said I was "positive" that Rich was scummy. I stated that my lone vote was wasted and joined the votes on the next best option. Unlike you, who kept your vote on a now known innocent! Rich may be innocent, but I was more sure of JM's innocence last night than I was of Rich's....call it a gut feel but at least I was right...you were not!

If I had left my vote as a lone vote that would have been called out too, so whatever! I play my game, my way, whether you like it or not.

You and DD are scum - plain and simple.

 

[noodles62]

on second review it almost seems like Ice is really worried and grilling anyone that voted for Rich. This is way too obvious...so I kinda doubt Rich is on their team. Altho it could be that is what they are expecting and making the perfect cover for Rich, so not gonna scratch him off the list yet....
Regardless - I feel good about my vote on Ice. He is scum and quite possibly the master mind.
Ice - maybe you need to turn off the playstation and devote your brain to the game. you seem to be slipping. Just sayin.

 

[Zaffy]

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Zaffy why Rich over anyone else? What was the scum tell?

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I picked him because he was the only one at the time who had a chance to be close to JM in votes. I think having a close vote gives more opportunities to see how scum act than a landslide. Him being one one the train against JM helped me make up my mind as well.

Essentially it was a function of vote count though.

 

[Zaffy]

Votes:
Rich- TRS 41, Lab 72, Zaffy 87, Noods 91, Fire 136
TRS- Zs 43, Agas 88, Kash 89
Jm- Dawg 73, Ice 75, DD 77, Razz 78, Rich 80
Kash- Noods 74
DD- Jm 86, Jb 90
Zaffy- Jb 71

Rich had 2 before JM had any. Then within 5 posts JM is in the lead. Could that have been a mafia team panicking? I'd think that Dawg, Ice, DD would be less obvious than that.

The only other votes at the time were 1 on me, and 1 on TRS. Niether of us had enough posts to be realistically lynchable though. Jm's bush kicking made him a decent target.

I vote to lynch Dangerdoll

Maybe they panicked when Rich gained the votes, he could be the Grinch. DD's 3rd vote is the essential one in my opinion although I think it's a good possibility that any of the voters on JM are scum.

 

[Lab_Rat]

From this pre-nightfall

haha, nice JM but I think you know me well enough to know that I don't need any instruction on what the job of an innocent is. While I agree that it is the job of an innocent to find clues of the mafia working together, I fail to see how such codewords being used as you pointed out is mafium, because it's something Z does nearly every game. Plus, why would they need to drop clues to each other?? They know who they all are aside from one.... and how would that one know they were dropping clues for him? .... well, that is, if not for your pointing it out... vote away, JM... I think you are showing your colors loud and clear....

To OMG :FIREdevil: I'm so sorry :thumbsup: post-nightfall

man... crappy night... sorry about losing you, JM.... but you just didn't sit well with me with poking out of Z's post... just didn't look right being you weren't a noobie at all...

Time to refocus...

Screams evil elf, possibly grinch, to me. I've read back through thoroughly and agree Ice may be communicating with DD, but DD is the one who seems most obvious evil at this time.

I vote to lynch DangerDoll for the reasons stated above.

 

[FireDancer7905]

Ice, I picked Rich because I felt that a tie was better than a lone vote. Every time I have ever placed a lone vote I have been blasted and "shot to the top" of suspect lists. I can usually see why that would happen, but i do it anyway. I thought that maybe I would try a different approach this time. It's a bummer, cause an innocent died, but there's no guarantee that that wouldn't have happened anyway. I notice that now Rich doesn't seem to be taking the heat, but you are. I don't know what to think about that yet.

 

[RazzleFish]

I think I have who I want to lynch but it just doesn't seem to add up right. After the hit to Kash I think it may have been either TRS or Rich who saw that she may be on to something but then why would TRS vote for Rich and not switch it before nightfall, leaving it to a coin toss? As for Ice, people bring up very good points but I personally don't feel he is leading the evils. DD comes across as an experienced player that could very well pass off as a good elf but since I am a noob, I don't really know if that is something she would do. This also applies for Noods. I feel like TRS is behind it with Rich being an evil elf. This would explain why they would be willing to loose Rich as long as TRS is safe and Kash is gone. Unless maybe Rich isn't evil and the Grinch is trying to make us focus on him while he and his elvs lay low for awhile. I'll keep thinking............

 

[IceH2O]

Ok its halftime but in reality the game is over. Sorry Skin fans LMAO.

ok, I was going to pull a bunch of quotes and comment on them but it turned out to be too long, and we all LOVE long posts!

So, instead I will just put my thoughts out there and hope I dont forget anything.....

TRS does seem to have an uncanny sense picking out scum although Rich seems to be his favorite all time vote. Not sure this early I would trust his thinking yet. As for his laying low for the weekend; I dunno, seems to be the way he plays every game so not seeing anything there as Zsand does??

JM, reading way too much into the whole evergreen responses. Could be something to watch but not worried about it yet.

Fire/Kashta - seem to be absent except for a quick pop in each. My vote may go to one of them on this nightfall.

Ice, has good instincts but perhaps reading a bit much into DD's response to his joke post. Just seems like sibling bickering to me. but then again they each know eachothers play style much better than I do so maybe one of them is onto something. Too early to tell regardless.

Not really much else in regards to the other players. Several noobs this time so should make the game interesting.

This seems to have turned into a long post anyway!
I have been busy shoveling snow this weekend but should have more time come this afternoon to devote to the game.
For now, I vote to lynch Kashta. Just cuz she is too quiet and I have nothing else to go on! This may change later but who knows......

So Rich isn't on Noods 1st list, no time does she mention Rich as a suspect.

wow! I agree that it is pretty early for train! I sure hope you all are right! it will be interesting to see where the rest of the votes land.

Now, back out in the snow to pick up poopsicles! :lipssealedsmilie:

Here she hopes we are right,even mentions the train.

well, obviously my lone vote is useless and I am willing to take a chance and move it. I retract my vote for Kashta and vote to lynch Rich.
I may come back to kashta tomorrow but for now a vote on her is wasted. (something is not sitting right with her - just a gut feeling)
I do not like the train on JM so not willing to jump on and not really seeing TRS as scum - yet. Seems to be the way he always play regardless of role. That leaves me with Rich or tie it up with a vote on DD. not really interested in a 3 way tie for second place, so Rich is the winner.

I will keep checking back for changes before nightfall, but I feel pretty good with my vote where it is for the time being.

She feels good about a vote on a person she had no suspicions on? Only reason she jumped on was to make it a race between Rich and Jm? At this time Fire had been a no show. Noods even posted about it. Think maybe Noods was hedging on Fire not showing up and tying Rich with Jm?

Ice, I picked Rich because I felt that a tie was better than a lone vote. Every time I have ever placed a lone vote I have been blasted and "shot to the top" of suspect lists. I can usually see why that would happen, but i do it anyway. I thought that maybe I would try a different approach this time. It's a bummer, cause an innocent died, but there's no guarantee that that wouldn't have happened anyway. I notice that now Rich doesn't seem to be taking the heat, but you are. I don't know what to think about that yet.

I don't see how its better to vote to tie on someone that showed no scumminess vs someone who did by trying to link players together as evil by using a question asked by Zsand.




Was hoping for more input from other players by now.


You can consider this an OMGUS vote if you like though I did mention Noods as a suspect before she voted me. I think its the reason she actually voted me to begin with so she can claim I OMGUS her.

I vote to lynch Noodles.

 

[The Red Severum]

ice why are you trying to take off all the heat on the lynching of a innocent? You are the grinch, plain and simple.