MAG 250 best media configuration finally discovered!

"I see" said the blind man.
Thanks for the explanation. I was completely missing the importance of the strainer surface in relation to the batt.
Next time please just say it slower and louder and I'll get it.
 
foolishfish said:
"I see" said the blind man.
Thanks for the explanation. I was completely missing the importance of the strainer surface in relation to the batt.
Next time please just say it slower and louder and I'll get it.
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Ahh just kidding, you know how hard it is to express something technical with just words and no illustrations.

I wish I could say I knew it would work and why when I tried this, something just tole me to give it a try, so I was pretty surprise to tale a well flowing 250 and open it it up and find it dirtier then any of my mags I have taken appart, I wish I had taken the photo's before I cleaned the sock and outer blue sponge as they were almost as black as the Poly.

Im going to be making these socks for everyone of my hot mags 250 & 350's and if the results are still repeated I will be making mods to the FX5's as well, probubly cutting down the circumference sponges to make room for a blue/white bonded pad layer between the main sponges and the poly batten outer layer. This should make it easier for the sponges to absorb more dirt and maintain higher rates of flow.
 
You know Gunner I have the same issue with mine too so I took your idea and lets see how it turns out so far I got cleaner water than before. So I did it on my Mag 350 too and the water is even better. Thanks for tha tip.
 
Navyscuba said:
You know Gunner I have the same issue with mine too so I took your idea and lets see how it turns out so far I got cleaner water than before. So I did it on my Mag 350 too and the water is even better. Thanks for tha tip.
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Hi shipmate, been meaning to congradulate you on your wifes expectancy you posted on my former home forum, but diden't want to tip my hand. Belated congratulations and may God bless the child.
 
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CWO4GUNNER said:
Hi shipmate, been meaning to congradulate you on your wifes expectancy you posted on my former home forum, but diden't want to tip my hand. Belated congratulations and may God bless the child.
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Thanks so much. Do you log in under different name? hahaha which one I won't tell. :naughty:
 
We are going to have to take up a collection and buy gunner a particle counter and a TDS meter.......we want tests!
 
Filter

RDTigger said:
I wish for someone to send me a Mag HOT so I might try this setup....(LOL)


Sigh since my 403 crapped out...the mbuna tank craves more filtration...
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Sometimes is frustrating it has been for me sometimes trying to get perfect filtration for cichlid tanks. If you try to put a lot of padding and don't leave room for water to flow the cartridge plastic collapse because of the sediment clogged the intake and water gotta flow so it will find the path with less resistance. It happen to me a few times that's why i'm trying with Gunners version. Nothing to loose on my case.
 
But seriously, the only way to keep the same level of filtration as that which is achieved with the micron filter is to increase surface area while maintaining the pore size of the filter substrate. IE: a longer or wider micron cartridge.........

Your filtration will only be as good as the size of the largest particles that are allowed to pass through unfiltered. This changes a bit as the filter is in service, because as the filter catches more and more debris, the pore size decreases and you have better filtration, albeit at the cost of reduced flow rate.

Also, all the gunk you find in your filter canister is not only from what has been filtered out of the water, but bacteria and all that grew there as organic material became trapped in the filter medium and fed of this material.

Now, and interesting project would be to daisy chain two hot 250's together, with the first stage utilizing your concept gunner, and the second stage using the micron filter. If your idea is providing the same level of filtration of that of the micron cartridge, it ( the micron cartridge) should almost never become clogged.

I think what you have achieved is the best balance of filtration to service time that works for your situation. I am skeptical that it is doing so while maintaining filtration at the same level in regards to particle size.
 
nc0gnet0 said:
But seriously, the only way to keep the same level of filtration as that which is achieved with the micron filter is to increase surface area while maintaining the pore size of the filter substrate. IE: a longer or wider micron cartridge.........

Your filtration will only be as good as the size of the largest particles that are allowed to pass through unfiltered. This changes a bit as the filter is in service, because as the filter catches more and more debris, the pore size decreases and you have better filtration, albeit at the cost of reduced flow rate.

Also, all the gunk you find in your filter canister is not only from what has been filtered out of the water, but bacteria and all that grew there as organic material became trapped in the filter medium and fed of this material.

Now, and interesting project would be to daisy chain two hot 250's together, with the first stage utilizing your concept gunner, and the second stage using the micron filter. If your idea is providing the same level of filtration of that of the micron cartridge, it ( the micron cartridge) should almost never become clogged.

I think what you have achieved is the best balance of filtration to service time that works for your situation. I am skeptical that it is doing so while maintaining filtration at the same level in regards to particle size.
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I know and I have a 350 and the Hot on a 100 gal A. Cichlid tank and I used the micron filter and not even a month later was clogged. So giving this a try.
 
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