Are Water Changes Actually Necessary?

Do you change your water?

  • No

    Votes: 3 0.7%
  • Not unless conditions require it (like high nitrates)

    Votes: 60 13.8%
  • Yes, I do it on a specific timeline (daily, weekly, whatever)

    Votes: 358 82.3%
  • Undecided / Other

    Votes: 14 3.2%

  • Total voters
    435
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its funny you bring this up. my dad was nagging at me for doing daily water changes because im still cycling my tank. however, after not doing any WCs for a few days, my nitrites went way down and i can start stocking it now so i guess it depends on bio-load and tank size since larger water volume means more space for the water to saturate with bacteria.

Thats because the bacteria were establishing themselves.

And the beneficial bacteria attach to surfaces so as dundadundun said it's surface area that matters, not water volume (although more water volume = more dilution). Besides, the colony is not going to grow any larger than what your bioload can support. They need an ample food source.
 
OK, let me put this as nicely as possible. You are an idiot.

You don't understand Chemistry, you apparently don't understand aquariums and you sure as hell don't understand climatology.

I'm not having the global warming argument again and I'm not arguing with you about things you don't understand.

Read some books, gain some knowledge and come back with a better attitude and maybe you'll be treated with some more respect. However, for now and until you prove me wrong, you're an idiot and yet, I still hope you are never treated like you treat your fish.

Oh c'mon, that article centers around the NIH trying to find a way to exploit the global warming myth. It involves them artificially imposing increased CARBON DIOXIDE levels in water, to acidify it a-la Coke dissolving meat.

Urea is part of the nitrogen cycle. That is why it's used as a nitrogen release in fertilizer. It doesn't "build up" in a tank with a healthy cycle going on.

Having aragonite or calcite, or crushed coral, in your tank imposes a permanent buffer. They react chemically with acidity.

Which is simply not going to happen in a saltwater tank, from urea. Especially if you have live rock and calcium-based media.

This is only an argument for watching the pH and nitrates, and doing a change if you are unable to keep them stable in some other way.

It is most clearly not an argument for routine changes.

On the other hand, that guy who hasn't cleaned his apartment for two years probably is not stressed or made unhealthy by it. Most of us prefer our homes cleaner, but it's not REALLY for health reasons. Some sound science has made a case for over-clean homes as a fundamental cause of the mysterious increase in asthma in recent years.

What was this evidence of? That an unheated tank with no water circulation won't kill your fish? Since it was gulf coral and inverts, that doesn't surprise me, although some other species absolutely need strong current to thrive.

But what had that to do with water changes? Did you not change your water normally, without electricity? Because you lived in a hotel for the 6 weeks?
 
tilapia farming and aquaponics... pack that tank! :thumbsup:

recently i came across info stating that certain plants (i think pothos was one) can break down and consume voc's such as the poison produced in the skin and glands of newts and firebelly toads as well as growth limiting hormones that certain species secrete. if i remember correctly it was published on a .edu website. i would still like to find something to back it up though... with picture evidence to go with the quantitative measures would be nice.

water changes are still part of the deal though... just less often or with a whole lot more fish.
 
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You are an idiot.

Master Yoda has spoken, now everyone chill.
 
OK, let me put this as nicely as possible. You are an idiot.

You don't understand Chemistry, you apparently don't understand aquariums and you sure as hell don't understand climatology.

I'm not having the global warming argument again and I'm not arguing with you about things you don't understand.

Read some books, gain some knowledge and come back with a better attitude and maybe you'll be treated with some more respect. However, for now and until you prove me wrong, you're an idiot and yet, I still hope you are never treated like you treat your fish.


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I'm gonna have to go with Ogre on this one...

Additionally, the waste in our fish tank discharge water is probably the least of the things we have to worry about ending up in our waterways. Between communicable diseases our native fish may have no immunity to and the threat of inadvertent introduction of non native species, I propose that we actually do have more to worry about than many would assume. Hey, aren't the massive caulerpa outbreaks in the Mediterranean and off the California coast both direct results of improper disposal of waste water?
 
well i think this thread has almost run its course.
 
OK, let me put this as nicely as possible. You are an idiot.

You don't understand Chemistry, you apparently don't understand aquariums and you sure as hell don't understand climatology.

I'm not having the global warming argument again and I'm not arguing with you about things you don't understand.

Read some books, gain some knowledge and come back with a better attitude and maybe you'll be treated with some more respect. However, for now and until you prove me wrong, you're an idiot and yet, I still hope you are never treated like you treat your fish.

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its funny you bring this up. my dad was nagging at me for doing daily water changes because im still cycling my tank. however, after not doing any WCs for a few days, my nitrites went way down and i can start stocking it now so i guess it depends on bio-load and tank size since larger water volume means more space for the water to saturate with bacteria.

post hoc ergo propter hoc?
 
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