New 72 gallon bowfront,FOWLR.

Alright no need to argue. advice would have worked fine? :cheers:

The rock came from an established tank of 3+ years, so i'm assuming it's cured.
I am planning to buy more rock from people breaking down their tanks(won't cause any water spieks and usually muchhh cheaper), and if not i have other containers or tanks i can cure the rock in myself.

I've tested everyday so far and still haven't had a trace of anything. I am prepared to do water changes if necessary, already have a garbage can full of mixed saltwater waiting to go in if needed :FIREdevil:
 
Sounds like you are plenty prepared. I'll reiterate the part about taking things slowly. If you do that, you should be fine.
 
greech said:
Ace - First, there is no need to be ugly.
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How was that ugly at all? It was a straight forward question. I highly disagree with putting snails in a tank that doesn't even have all the live rock, I think it will cause way more problems then it would solve because the second you add any more rock, your going to get a bump in the ammonia no matter how careful you are and that is usually the demise of the snails. Then when the snails die, you get a bigger ammonia spike in the tank, which in turn would potentially kill other things like shrimp and hermits, vicious cycle you start all because you put in a CUC before the tank was really ready for that to happen. That was all I was saying, wasn't trying to be ugly. ;)
 
Ace25 said:
How was that ugly at all? It was a straight forward question. I highly disagree with putting snails in a tank that doesn't even have all the live rock, I think it will cause way more problems then it would solve because the second you add any more rock, your going to get a bump in the ammonia no matter how careful you are and that is usually the demise of the snails. Then when the snails die, you get a bigger ammonia spike in the tank, which in turn would potentially kill other things like shrimp and hermits, vicious cycle you start all because you put in a CUC before the tank was really ready for that to happen. That was all I was saying, wasn't trying to be ugly. ;)
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My bad, guess it was the "so let me understand this" part that got me. Also, I was a little on edge about some other things when I read what you wrote. No excuse, I over reacted and I sincerely apologize. We are in agreement about the sensitivity of inverts. However, I have added both precycled rock (cycled outside my tank) and dry rock to my tank with no issues at all. Like I said this should be done slowly. I completely agree that uncured LR should not be added to an existing system.

davexstumpe - Like Amp said it sounds like you have things going well. Keep up the good work. Again, I'm sorry for sidetracking your thread.
 
greech said:
However, I have added both precycled rock (cycled outside my tank) and dry rock to my tank with no issues at all.
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See, I had the opposite effect. I was given 100lbs of live rock out of a 5 year old system and cooked it by itself for 3 months, doing 100% weekly waterchanges from my wastewater. The second I added that rock to my system I had a huge phosphate spike which was part of the start of my tanks decline, corals started to die, ammonia spikes started to happen, and the $100 CUC I just bought ALL croaked in a week from that, which in turn put my tank in a fast nose dive right into the ground to which I still haven't even turn the corner towards recovery, 3 months later. A $100 CUC from an online place consists of 300+ hermits and 100+ snails. That is a lot of death in a tank all at once. I was trying to solve the hair algae problem in my tank and I hadn't replenished my CUC in years, so I thought it was time to do so.. which ended up being so much worse to my tank than if I hadn't added any at all.

So the point it, just because you get live rock out of a running system doesn't guarantee it will be any good.. it may be a phosphate and nitrate sponge for all you know and will leach back out the second you put it in your tank. Dry rock that has been cured with a few pieces of live rock for 30-60 days sounds like the best method IMO for getting good rock.
 
Wow, sorry that happened to you. I cycled the rock myself. Maybe that helped in my case? Just goes to show how fragile our systems can really be.
 
After a test today, here are my readings:
pH - 8.2
Ammo- 0
Nitrite - 0
Nitrate - 5

Never a trace of ammo or nitrite. Could i have skipped the cycle due to my cured live rock?

Also. Just got my shipment in today that included my koralia 3. It came with a fish guard as well as a flow concentrator. Has anyone used these? What are the chances of a snail/small fish/hermit getting into one of these? i can't imagine it happens to often and i could definitely see it slowing the flow. Or is there an advantage of using the flow concentrator?
 
I don't use either. Every so often one of my astrea snails makes it in one of my K2s but I have not had any other problems.
 
Ace25 said:
See, I had the opposite effect. I was given 100lbs of live rock out of a 5 year old system and cooked it by itself for 3 months, doing 100% weekly waterchanges from my wastewater. The second I added that rock to my system I had a huge phosphate spike which was part of the start of my tanks decline, corals started to die, ammonia spikes started to happen, and the $100 CUC I just bought ALL croaked in a week from that, which in turn put my tank in a fast nose dive right into the ground to which I still haven't even turn the corner towards recovery, 3 months later. A $100 CUC from an online place consists of 300+ hermits and 100+ snails. That is a lot of death in a tank all at once. I was trying to solve the hair algae problem in my tank and I hadn't replenished my CUC in years, so I thought it was time to do so.. which ended up being so much worse to my tank than if I hadn't added any at all.

So the point it, just because you get live rock out of a running system doesn't guarantee it will be any good.. it may be a phosphate and nitrate sponge for all you know and will leach back out the second you put it in your tank. Dry rock that has been cured with a few pieces of live rock for 30-60 days sounds like the best method IMO for getting good rock.
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Maybe some kind of bad hitchhiker or a disease/parasite?

Will the fishguard hurt your tank? if not then it cant hurt, only help.
 
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