Mafia 66: Farmers versus the Railroad - the play

I don't get how FF is confused. I was under the impression that he was the confusing everyone else. If he's able to do that shouldn't he be able to at least pick out someone he thinks scum?

I for one think that FF is scum. His play style has varied too much this game. When he wasn't posting people got suspicious. I'm thinking that has to do with his teammates telling him to not say much. Once people picked up that he reversed and is back to non sense confusing people up posting. Not to mention that he has slipped the whole "tell me if i need to change my vote post" and he has been contradicting himself every other post and sometimes in the same post.

My dad grounded me from computer and internet (i have a PC and a MAC) so i wan not able to post except between 8am and 4pm, and that was during school, so it was mostly in math and bio (im gettin a B in math and an A in bio). There goes that issue.

OMG! What part of "I meant that i could only talk till 4pm did u not understand. AND my mac was having issues at school too, the network went down (again...)

Read, re-read, and read again if u missed my posts, and PLZ point out my self contradictions so i can clear those up!

One thing is certain. I will never understand your logic!


umm


that seems rather defensive to me

He is asking KASHTA how she would know what Noobs is, not saying he thinks noods is good or bad. He never really said whether or not he thought noods was bad or not.

AND WHATS WRONG WITH MY LOGIC! IVE HAD MY EDUMICATION!
 
Night is at 9, right?
 
Ok. Light work load today so I got home early.

Before I start, anybody got aspirin? I am starting with FF's posts.:wall:

Mafia 66 NOTES

So far ive seen kashta jump on noods, noods got defensive, cole defended noods, LR defended kashta, JB defended noods, I defended noods in 1 post and think Kashta is scum for jumping on someone so soon in the game, no day 1 BS. LR said that scum would never do that on day 1, but then if that is true it would be a great way for scum to hide. Ya, one of my posts says that if u want me to change my lynch i mean make ur arguments b 4 4:00pm. IF U DONT I WONT BE ABLE TO READ THEM. Ok, by post #86 i realized that this is still day 1 people, we're supposed to be BSing each other, not coming up with big *** arguments...

WOW, day 1 is half over and im not a suspect yet. Note to self: DONT POST TOO MUCH!
Lab says she claims innocence when she is innocent, ha, she claimed the same thing (in more words and a roundabout way) last game and she was evil. NEVER CLAIM INNOCENT UNLESS U CAN BACK IT UP WITH POOF LAB! just a suggestion...
Post 107, Lab digs herself a grave... again...
AND she is over confidant, only the railroaders and secret council can be that sure. Well actualy only the Railroaders, the SC cant do that, they dont know who is on their farmer guys team.

Oh boy, I never even knew what Cole had posted LOL. Kash will prob be evil, or really bad good guy lol.

Im starting to think that both noods, kashta, and LR are innocent and confused lol.

Dawg is starting to make sense now, he is also baseing his whole theory off of Kash AND LR being immigrent workers...

Kashta pointed out how in one of my posts i misinterpreted what she said. Sorry Kash lol.

Kashta has *** of now made me think she is scum because she s defending herself WAY to much. Ima keep my vote on her.

Oh boy, i just got to noods mega post...

My response to this post

the evils are always more fun then the innocents...
you know, no one IS defending noods lol, Kashta really hit it big this time, and Noods is really digging a grave for herself...

Where the hell is Annie?! He just comes in day 1 posts 1 post, weird, he may UD, did he post a vote yet?

That has been NOTES, by FF1

I think you need to get a dictionary. There is a difference between defensive, and answering questions put forth to you.

I think that if u say ur convince that -insert name here- is scum it is the same as saying that u know what role they got (aka, mafia).

How do you figure this? If you are convinced of something it simply means that by your interpretation of events or whatever that a certain outcome must be.

Noods posting early : $20.00, Kashta jumping on it : $30.00, Noods and I posting the same thing at the same time : Priceless lol.

Are you going to at least try to post something helpful to the town? Or continue posting just to see your posts?

ugg, kash i can add another reason for voting you : your posts are huge, cant u shorten them? Maybe for, like, a five year old or one of those poor saps from AFV.

This is a game of strategy, it involves logic and reason. You are to try to persuade other's to see your point of view. you do this by posting information to back up your theories.

Oh, and Kash, do you always post this much when u are evil? Just wondering.

How do you KNOW she is evil?

That was my whole point! Theres so much to speculate about that it makes no difference and that is WHY it was irrelevant. I wasn't trying to prove any of those things.



Because you voted a couple posts in...you said Noods shouldn't have gotten all defensive because of one vote but it wasn't like it was a joke vote. You jumped on her from the get go.

I've been called defensive plenty of times. Not so much OMGUSy but definitely defensive.



1. Ok.

2. You're elaborating on what I said. I think Noods reaction doesn't point to scum or not scum right now but I never said I was giving her a pass. I believe I said in that exact same post I would keep her reaction in mind.

3. I agree. I think it generated discussion at best.




Kash, don't try to reply unless you yourself remember the facts. Its true, I was not very involved in the game because of RL issues but I read the entire game again last night. Go to the very first post you make and then read Mad's reaction. He asks why you edited it. Then TRS voted you FOR EDITING and it began to spiral down from there. You were defensive because of being called out for editing your post 8 minutes after you posted it.

The reason you posted early could in fact be the same reason Noodles did, but the problem is you are insisting that it is a scum tell when it is not. It happened once and the situations were different as I already demonstrated. Not everyone received PMs that game so it was super obvious that you were a PR that game. The only issue was whether you were scum or not which is why a few people (myself included) were hesitant to lynch you.

As for timing, thats irrelevant. If you want to assume JL PMed in the exact same order as 15 games ago then fine, but I think we've already both said that it's not even an issue of when/how PMs were sent out.



Kash, you still contradicted yourself. Plain and simple...which I find highly scummy. Random means you draw from a hat or something similar to that in terms of how you pick a vote. You had a reasoning behind it (Noods posted early). But that is getting into semantics.

May I quote what you said in that post I quoted?

"My initial vote against Noodles was not random. When I first got to this thread, I saw what Noodles did in her happy little moment of enthusiasm and I recognized exactly what that meant."

Right then and there you say your vote, initially, was not random but now you're trying to tell me it was. More contradictions. You also said that you didn't decide until Noods started reacting that it wasn't random, which is false because you said before that you knew EXACTLY what it meant, right away.



So basically you're saying you are not confident enough on the Noods/Coler connection to lynch Noods?

If I read correctly, I do belive that was her entire purpose for her actions.

If lab rat isn't even willing to give any merit to the other possibilities why would she have even brought them up? I think it is everyone's nature to go with what they feel is the most likely scenario but it doesn't mean that they don't give the others any merit. The fact that she mentions other possibilities means she has given them some merit.

If you read everything in context you will see I was referring to the fact that she shot down every other reply stating that one of her other theories might be the case.

I disagree with this post too. I am not sure why you are giving instructions to Labby unless you are working overtime in trying to appear as helpful for the town. The problem I see is why hold anything back if you have an idea or thought. The point of the game is to bounce ideas around and to see what and how others can join in the discussion. That's how we figure out who's mafia or not... you instructing labby to hold back on her posts, not liking it one bit. If this is labby's style to kick in bushes or help out the town in the way she feels is how, how can you deem that as wrong....
In this note, you are insisting that she "leave this up to the person posting their viewpoints to decide the level of risk/exposure they are prepared to take for themselves", to me, if we all did this... we are leading everyone to assume their opinions, not share them... what would be the point of the game in the first place.

Sure DD, let's just tell the RR owner's who we believe have the roles that would kill one of them if they try to turn that person. Really this makes no sense whatsoever.

You should check in with the scum den before posting on your own.

how ironic is it that here you are talking about one looking at one side of the story. And as I have read, I believe the ammunition was the simple fact that only PR's/Mafia got PM's in that game so this is what actually blew your cover. Don't worry, I saw your "refute's" but I also believe that your posting early alone is not what caused you the problem.

I post my thoughts and ideas on the posts as I read them... if it strikes me as something not right, I discuss it... No need to give me instructions on my game Kash, I feel like I am doing fine but thanks anyway.

Yes you are doing fine, thanks to being able to check in before posting to see how you should post or who to go after.

not really sure I get this, but whatever rocks your boat...

It seems pretty self explanatory. We have four people badgering Lab rat, today we have three of those four badgering Kashta. Quite the spin doctoring job you all are doing. Very good job of keeping the innocents from looking at facts and concentrating on trivial matters.

My stuff is in BOLD, what a weird word, sound it out B-O-U-L-D. Just sounds weird.



What im saying is that kashta is way to defensive to have a clear conscious. She is NOT looking innocent to me, or else i wold be voting for Noods or Cole. Both seem would seem scummy if Kash is innocent.

Please quit putting your comments inside the quoted post. My head hurts enough from trying to decipher your posts as it is.

refer this bolded point back to my last post.... now it is up to the reader of how they interpret things... tired of telling people how to read your posts?

Still trying to keep the innocents focused on trivial matters?

to clarify that, it was more the see reactions then to actually vote people. And your reaction sounded like an indirect way of defending him. MAN I WISH I WAS AN IMMIGRANT, they know one RRL...

And to the second thing, im trying, ive just given up on getting more for Kash, just lettin u do the work, then commin up with arguments ad counter arguments and counter-counter arguments to see if your ideas are foolproof.

I can't believe I am saying this, FF try to look past what is posted and see who is doing what.

Don't follow the crowd, THINK for yourself.


My head hurts.

:iagree:

Same hear, if feels like im :wall: and still cant find much right about Kashta's weak argument against Noods and Cole. I dont see how cole was defending noods, and i dont see why noods needed defending. That pretty much takes out your entire argument Kashta.

try to read the thread and leave the skimming to DD :rofl:

Nope...you spelled hear correctly but you spelled here wrong ;)

I need beer!!

I beat you to it.

so it's not just me? i thought it might be my sinus meds affecting my brain, causing my inability to understand him.....:lipssealedsmilie:

Welcome to the new mafia. Mafia with FF.

I don't get how FF is confused. I was under the impression that he was the confusing everyone else. If he's able to do that shouldn't he be able to at least pick out someone he thinks scum?

I for one think that FF is scum. His play style has varied too much this game. When he wasn't posting people got suspicious. I'm thinking that has to do with his teammates telling him to not say much. Once people picked up that he reversed and is back to non sense confusing people up posting. Not to mention that he has slipped the whole "tell me if i need to change my vote post" and he has been contradicting himself every other post and sometimes in the same post.

Really? FF saying hello confuses people. LMAO
 
To try to sum things up, my vote stays on DD.

Yesterday we had FOUR players badgering LR.

Today we have THREE out of those four badgering Kashta.

This simply put appears to be a spin job of keeping us focused on trivial b.s. instead of kicking bushes and trying to uncover scum.

This REEKS of scumminess so my list of suspects are:
DD
JB
JPAPPY
DAWG
 
To further state my case, and it is verifiable by reading the thread, these four players are repeatedly asking the same questions over and over.
 
'whisle' dang, wiz, that was big! Ok, so far, from what ive read, i get the idea that u loooooove BSing people. What you said can be summed up to : FF's posts are confusing, that u think DD is imlying that we should tell everyone our ideas for good guy roles (BS), that i was skimming, and a little more BS. That entire post was jokes, BS, and... well... more BS.

Wiz, i think you may have just gone up on the SCUM LIST.
 
To further state my case, and it is verifiable by reading the thread, these four players are repeatedly asking the same questions over and over.

Can we have a sample, im to lazy to re-read the thread.
 
Im in third on the post count list now lol. Maybe i should be grounded more often, it shuts me up lol. Annie and Odin still have only one post each...
 
NVM, now im in 2cd lol.
 
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