Mafia 66: Farmers versus the Railroad - the play

[jpappy789]

I decided that if so many people thought he was pro-town i should go and review his posts. I did and decided i was wrong eek and therefor removed my vote from him.

Can you tell that I'm convinced?

 

[Dagamoth]

So Dag, if the vote were right now, and you could not vote for Coler, who would you vote for? Who would you not be willing to vote for?

I would have to vote for Annie, she is either defending coler or setting him up so I feel it would be a safe vote for scum.

 

[Dagamoth]

Oh...



FF likes his sleep.



Id like to know this too.


Also, dag how do you know how many people are on the SC?

I thought I had read in the rules that there would be 4 SC but I just went back and checked and it wasn't there. Guess that I must have just assumed that was the number.

 

[Dagamoth]

Sorry I dont have time now to address the questions you posted Labby.

I will say this. I carefully reviewed your posts last night. I believe I was harsh when I stated you have done nothing pro-town. While I saw many posts with what looked like scum (particularly all the posts in reference to pocket mafia" and your seeming determination to bring Noods to a coin toss with Coler), objectively I also saw posts I percieved to be pro-town. I agree at this point that you at least started the game as an innocent.

My position on you has softened. I am no longer comfortable with you as my choice, especially under the circumstances of sudden death. I cannot afford to be wrong.

I retract my vote for LabRat.

My vote will likely land on Dag tonight, pending further discussion by the town.

If your vote is going to land on me why would you even bother voting for Lab Rat? Waiting for the go ahead by scum teammates like the last two votes have been, within the last 10min before nightfall?

 

[Dagamoth]

Dag is gone really, really quiet.

yes god forbid people go to sleep every once in a while. I'll know better next time.

 

[Fishfriend1]

I thought I had read in the rules that there would be 4 SC but I just went back and checked and it wasn't there. Guess that I must have just assumed that was the number.

that or your mafia and just thought that the two teams would be the same.

 

[Fishfriend1]

yes god forbid people go to sleep every once in a while. I'll know better next time.

I hear ya, even if i think ur scum, you still need ur sleep lol.

 

[dirtydawg10]

Should have put this in my previous post - I am ready to vote Dag but I'm conscious of not making a train.

Mention of Wiz and Annie as alternatives primarily. I am open minded on each. I would be somewhat more willing to consider Dawg as an alternative but other people (or at least Lab Rat (I think ?) see innocence in him) and I'm willing also to listen to arguments for and against him.

Notwithstanding what other's say dawg, why Annie, Wiz, Rich ?

Just a quick one for you JB - I got the impression your vote was pretty solid unless something changed...have you picked up on something or what (you seem to be showing some more flexibility now ?)

Annie - because he seems to have aligned himself with you and I think you are scum. If you want me to pull posts I can but I think that one is self explanatory.

Wiz - Mainly because I don't like how he came out right after the D1 nightfall and went after LR and myself when we were the two that realized what Kash was doing. Then there is his voting. Day 1 he was all alone on DD and now he's all alone on JB. He doesn't seem to be going with the Town at all. IMO.

Rich - Has come to my attention just since last night. His vote switch off of you and on to Noods sealed Noods fate and possibly he was trying to save you. Otherwise it would have come down to a coin toss between you and Noods.

 

[Dagamoth]

that or your mafia and just thought that the two teams would be the same.

There is no way that mafia could of started with 4 people. They have gained 2 people but lost 1. Considering Noods voted for Odin at the beginning i doubt that Odin was a mafia who UD and DD has played enough that I doubt she would UD as a mafia. I guess it could be possible that both Odin and DD were mafia but unlikely. If mafia had started with 4 gained 2 and lost 1 they would have won yesterday. But mafia starting at 3 gaining 2 losing 1 puts them at 4 right now.

 

[Lab_Rat]

Ok, now that I'm done with rounds for the day I can take the time to put my current thoughts out there.


I'd like to start with this:

I don't twist words.

I answered the questions you asked.

As it stands right now, my vote will stay on you for all the reasons I have stated.

I would have to see something extremely scummy from someone else to switch my vote.

Not surprising to me at all, so I say so:

Sure you do, I think JB did a fine job pointing that out. But that's ok, that's what scum is supposed to do.

I fully expect your vote to stay on me. Annies likely will as well. Afterall, scum has to place their vote somewhere...

And Annie shows up:

Sorry I dont have time now to address the questions you posted Labby.

I will say this. I carefully reviewed your posts last night. I believe I was harsh when I stated you have done nothing pro-town. While I saw many posts with what looked like scum (particularly all the posts in reference to pocket mafia" and your seeming determination to bring Noods to a coin toss with Coler), objectively I also saw posts I percieved to be pro-town. I agree at this point that you at least started the game as an innocent.

My position on you has softened. I am no longer comfortable with you as my choice, especially under the circumstances of sudden death. I cannot afford to be wrong.

I retract my vote for LabRat.

My vote will likely land on Dag tonight, pending further discussion by the town.

Right after I post that I'm not surprised at all that scum would vote for me and that I did not expect either him nor Wiz to move off of me, Annie shocks me by retracting his vote. Was he nervous that I pointed out scum would be voting for me?


Right after that we get the OMGUSy post and vote from Wiz:

JB, I will answer. You seem to take great pleasure in harping that I have been absent. I don't post and disappear, I post and go to work.

My style hasn't changed, I have been this way every game.

When I get home it takes a few hours to read all the posts that have been made during the day and to find what happened with the lynch.

I also posted why I would not be on this past weekend in advance.




If having a job and other outside commitments is scummy, then lynch me.

IMO, making an issue of this the way you have been trying to do is scummy.

Yes scummy enough for me to change my vote .

I retract my vote on LR

I vote to lynch JB

Seriously Wiz? That's scummy? Most of us work and are busy (I'm working on lectures and presentations when I'm not at the hospital so that's how I have so much computer access to check in so often). I'm perplexed by your extreme over-reaction to what JB said. To follow that with an OMGUS vote when you're so sure I'm scum just makes no sense. When I look at the timing of my statement, then Annie's retraction, then your retraction, I must say, in my mind the two of you are communicating. Now whether Coler is communicating with you or if he's being framed, I can't say at this point.

so, wiz, basically your pissed that JB is pointing out that you haven't been here alot and have voted for him because of that? Way to wast a vote.

FF makes a good point.

Wow, Wiz; that's quite the strong reaction. First, let me say if I've offended you, I apologize. It was never the intent. It's just a game. Second... you're totally right. I had forgotten that you posted you would have your daughter this weekend. I apologize for that too. That being said...

I can't help but notice that out of everything that's said in my post, that is the one sentence you chose to respond to. Then you get all OMGUSY without even letting me reply first. I get that you post in spurts. I've seen that before and know it to be your style. I also understand having a strange work schedule, I have one to as you'll see from the timestamp on most of my posts. What I'm not used to from you, Wiz; and what leads me to believe you're scum is your stubborness and refusal to look at anything other than your own thoughts. Then the getting dramatic and omgusy doesn't really help.

I agree with this...it's not that Wiz isn't around 24/7, it's that he's been so unwilling to consider any other thoughts than his own. The OMGUS I would never have expected from him. He's also tried to manipulate things, like blaming me for Kash's lynch. Not something a townie would do.

Ewww, Mad eats his own boogers! Gross!

I think the most confusing thing is the turn. It is so tough to tell who it is. That's why when I came here this morning and saw you changing your mind I was thinking TURN. Your list seems to have not changed but the vote retraction has me worried. I'd actually really like to hear what JPap has to say. I guess I could have been too hyper-focused on Coler too but I see too much evidence against him to change my vote.



I'm really not sure how you ever got an innocent feel from Coler but OK (maybe you could show me the posts that leaned you that way). Do you not think that Lab could have been the turn last night and waited a bit to slowly change lanes so as not to appear drastic? Maybe it's just because it caught me off guard. I'm interested to see where Lab and Coler's votes fall and whether they stay there or move around.

I agree the turn makes this game very confusing. I'm thinking the most likely turn was Dag, but just reading his post again he still seems pro-town except for the part about him being stuck on Coler being scum. Now I'm in no way saying Coler is innocent, he may well be scum, but I think it's more obvious that Annie and Wiz are working together.

Actually the part that concerns me is not that she is looking at other people...I am doing the same but the fact that the vote was retracted without a better place to put the vote. Usually someone retracts because they have a better suspect. I don't see her talking about a BETTER suspect and if she does have one (which I'm guessing would be Annie) why hasn't she voted for him? That's what concerns me.

Dawg, I didn't feel right heading to bed with my vote on Coler. My retraction was because I was uncertain. I still am uncertain but I will be posting a vote for who I now feel is most scummy by the end of this post. The post I made earlier was done while waiting for my attending to show up so I didn't have the time to really put a vote out there with the explanation of why I'm voting the way I am.

I understand a willingness to reconsider but she is not reconsidering. She still has you as a main suspect or so she says. It just struck me as odd (especially since night is only a bit over 9 hrs. away) so I pointed it out.

Yes, Coler is still a main suspect of mine. But I think Annie and Wiz are more scummy than Coler. As I've said previously, they're crafty enough to frame Coler and let the town vote for him.

Right now, I feel the scummiest player is the Wiz. Therefore, I vote to lynch Wiz. Primarily, the sudden vote retraction when called out, followed by a lame excuse for JB being scummy, makes me vote for him. That and the fact that he's tried to manipulate many things I've posted and automatically blaming me for Kash's lynch. I'm also pretty sure he and Annie are working together, +/- Coler.